The gtr is a 4 seater sports car.
Even though i hate a 4 seater , its easily the more preferred practical sports car i believe.
The z on the other hand is not a practical car for most.
gTR is targetting the right market segment. The gtr sells more than the z. Or so i believe. The gtr is a legend, so is the z. They both need to stay in its own place.

I wish for the z to have more power but if z gets into gtr territory , it would affect nissan. The z should only stay in the same competition as the camaros and mustangs. Anything more would affect the gtr.
I prefer the z over a gtr, but i would buy a gtr just for what its capable of stock. Nissan might not be doing everything right with the z, but they are spot on with the gtr.
Just my opinion

GTR is a halo car, not intended to sell anywhere close to huge numbers.

The Z is in an entirely different category. There should be some synergy between the two but not a whole lot of overlap.

They could double the power (and cost) and speed wouldn't increase all that much (certainly much less than double!). A modest increase (10-15% increase) would mostly solve the marketing bullets. Value is obtained by reducing overhead on the somewhat ridiculous markup for the tech package (or better yet making it standard equipment at least at a certain trim level).

Sorry but that makes no sense. The GTR is a huge, heavy, AWD, dual-clutch supercar. Bumping the Z to 400-425hp even via turbos does not encroach on a GTR in any way. The car is a smaller, lightweight (relatively), 2-seat sports car.

No doubt the successful return of muscle cars (go America) has scared Nissan and most definitely cost the Z potential buyers. If you're looking for a cool sporty car that has good performance on a budget, American Muscle is very appealing.

I still maintain though that Nissan really doesn't need to do much with this car to make it a hit. It's long in the tooth and needs a good solid redesign that focuses on strong simple lines (NOT the way Nissans design has been going unfortunately). They need to bump the power to anywhere from 375-425 and get the weight down to 3100lbs. Use a little better materials on the inside. Maybe offer the standard car as an NA V6 that gets about 375hp and offer a NISMO variant that's turbo'ed and gets about 420hp with some suspension and aero tweaks.

I guarantee you if Nissan does what I say they will have a large buyer base.

If Nissan does that, I would probably trade in my 2015 Nismo for the 420 hp Nismo in a heartbeat.

Agreed, but the 2016 Camaro has 455 HP and 455 torque. So the Z needs a power increase. And the Camaro is losing 200 pounds, adding performance dual-mode exhaust, configurable middle dash display, drive modes controlling exhaust/steering/tranny, and magnetic ride shocks.

The Z needs to step it up to keep up.

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Just to keep the information correct, the Z over the last couple of years is selling about 7,000 cars a year in the US, it's on track to do the same in 2015. The GTR on the other hand has just recently sold it's 10,000th car in the USA since it's introduction. The Z sells way more units than the GTR.

Woops.
Thanks for the correction. Itd just that i see way more gtrs than z's.

ped, I agree with you. Nissan needs to increase the performance of the Z to keep it relevant and increase sales, not make it a Toyobaru competitor or mini crossover.

While the average car owner may not know or recognize the physical difference between a 350 or 370Z. The average car owner recognizes the "Z" name. Every single time someone asks me, what kind of car do you drive? I respond, "a 370Z". They always reply with "wow".

Other than the Altima, the Z probably still has the 2nd most recognizable name in the whole line up of Nissan cars. IMO, It would be a terrible shame for Nissan to change this Icon into basically an entry level compact.

No worries Leroy, it's probably cause you're in Dubai. In Honolulu, you'll see Z's a little more often than a GTR but they're both rare sights! :tup:

not to mention that the GTR is butt ugly

Nissan's chief assistant did mention that they have to revolutionize the Z and not evolutionize it. He mentioned something about taking the Z back to its roots and said they need to make it more affordable.

I want the Z to grow in power and lose weight also but in my humble opinion I don't think it's going to happen. Realistically how many 3000 lb car with 350 HP are around thats about the same price as the Z? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there's any. The Porsche is at 60k.

No research but on YouTube channel called fast lane daily said Nissan is not making another z sports car but a crossover

2 by 2...hands of blue

Yep! I posted the video in the other thread.

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http://i.imgur.com/IhV3Uaf.jpg