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triso07 08-26-2015 02:16 PM

There is no way they do that. Maybe that's a new vehicle or a new version of the Juke, but no way they take a sports car and make it a crossover vehicle lol.

Magic Bus 08-26-2015 03:18 PM

Must have been a slow day at the office for this writer and he decided to make something up.

Carlos Ghosn is a very savy businessman and because of that, I doubt this will ever occur. Here's why, the Juke sell's about 3K units a month in the US (decent but not even close to the 25-30k unit Altima status). If they create a 2nd model in this lower priced, compact, crossover segment, there is a real possibility that it would just take away from the Juke's sales numbers. So really, creating a 2nd car in a 3k a month sales area? Very dumb business move in my opinion.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Nissan should make the next Z close to a C7 competitor (which sells about 3k units a month) and could possibly release it a year after the new Infiniti Q60 debuts. Keeping their very efficient manufacturing set up of shared architecture as well as manufacturing plant where the Infiniti Q50, Q60, Z & GTR are made. Nissan can share that same 400hp turbo v6 going into the Q60 right into the Z, keep it's weight similar to the current Z and focus on driver feel.

With starting prices of $40-$45k, they will retain they're current sales volume of 600 units per month, plus the real oppotunity to steal some Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, Porsche and BMW customers. IMO this is a much bigger playing field and would not conflict with stealing sales from another Nissan product.

Zcup 08-27-2015 07:28 AM

If they turn the Z into a crossover, then the resale value of our cars just went up. If the next gen Z is a turbo 4-banger priced at $60K, then my next car will be a Cayman.

I guess I'm just old, but Nissan seems bent on manufacturing ugly cars. The new Maxima looks like some kind of space ship, and the Juke might just be the ugliest car I've ever seen. I'm kind of scared of what the Z35 might look like, whatever it turns out to be. Just one guys opinion. To each his own.

Z_ealot 08-27-2015 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zcup (Post 3294854)
If they turn the Z into a crossover, then the resale value of our cars just went up. If the next gen Z is a turbo 4-banger priced at $60K, then my next car will be a Cayman.

I guess I'm just old, but Nissan seems bent on manufacturing ugly cars. The new Maxima looks like some kind of space ship, and the Juke might just be the ugliest car I've ever seen. I'm kind of scared of what the Z35 might look like, whatever it turns out to be. Just one guys opinion. To each his own.

nope...that honor goes to the pontiac aztek

markesc 08-28-2015 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zcup (Post 3294854)
If they turn the Z into a crossover, then the resale value of our cars just went up. If the next gen Z is a turbo 4-banger priced at $60K, then my next car will be a Cayman.

I guess I'm just old, but Nissan seems bent on manufacturing ugly cars. The new Maxima looks like some kind of space ship, and the Juke might just be the ugliest car I've ever seen. I'm kind of scared of what the Z35 might look like, whatever it turns out to be. Just one guys opinion. To each his own.

:iagree:

I'd love to be the fly on the wall in those design meetings when they come up with such garbage and all the dumb corporate sell outs say to themselves: "this is the one..."

I feel like a lot of the car design now just takes this checklish approach instead of making a simple cohesive attractive overall shape for the vehicle. Instead they just go down the list: "Giant blacked out grill... check...." "fender vent things....check...."

Jordo! 08-30-2015 07:25 PM

That is either the next gen Juke, the "mini Z" that has been discussed (but not the actual Z), or a really early April Fool's gag.

And gag I did, when I saw it.

Vomit and spit.

DeliriousClam 08-30-2015 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3295501)
nope...that honor goes to the pontiac aztek

Am I the only one that actually likes that car?

MagmaRed370z 08-30-2015 08:58 PM

I call this BS.
Makes me appreciate mine more.
If this is true, ill keep my 370z forever.

wanderer1234 09-01-2015 03:42 PM

Nissan is confused on what to do. They don't want to bump the horsepower on the current Z in fear that it will hinder the sales of the GTR. From a manufacture's point of view it would be stupid to have two cars produce fairly similar power when one is less than half the price of the other one.

A factory TT Z with 450 HP can easily rival a 550-600 HP GTR with a few simple mod.

I personally don't think Nissan will ever do do that. If they did that'll be the end of the GTR. People will go, "hey I can buy a Z for less than half of a GTR and make it quicker"!

Dropping weight and using the Juke Nismo RS engine to compete with the BRZ/FRS is much more financially beneficial for Nissan. :stirthepot:

2015nismo 09-01-2015 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliriousClam (Post 3297587)
Am I the only one that actually likes that car?

No you're not, I remember seeing quite a bit of those in Houston a few years back.

I always thought it looked like the back of them got chopped off and they couldn't figure out what to do, so they left it like that.

Firebase99 09-01-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wanderer1234 (Post 3299087)
Nissan is confused on what to do. They don't want to bump the horsepower on the current Z in fear that it will hinder the sales of the GTR. From a manufacture's point of view it would be stupid to have two cars produce fairly similar power when one is less than half the price of the other one.

A factory TT Z with 450 HP can easily rival a 550-600 HP GTR with a few simple mod.

I personally don't think Nissan will ever do do that. If they did that'll be the end of the GTR. People will go, "hey I can buy a Z for less than half of a GTR and make it quicker"!

Dropping weight and using the Juke Nismo RS engine to compete with the BRZ/FRS is much more financially beneficial for Nissan. :stirthepot:

The next gen GTR is AWD, balls deep, launch control, aint stopping for nuns or nuthing, spaceball insanity 800hp. A 420-450hp RWD Z is zero threat.

thayne 09-01-2015 05:07 PM

:iagree:

Even at similar HP levels, the Z and GTR are very different cars.

Magic Bus 09-01-2015 05:39 PM

:iagree: With Firebase on this one.

wanderer1234 09-01-2015 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3299129)
The next gen GTR is AWD, balls deep, launch control, aint stopping for nuns or nuthing, spaceball insanity 800hp. A 420-450hp RWD Z is zero threat.

From a roll its a threat. From Nissan's point of view, the customers would rather pay 40-50k for a 450 HP Z than almost 200k for a 800 HP car. Why would anyone pay 200k when they can have just as much fun in a 40-50k car.

Fact of the matter is Nissan wont make something that will take sales away from the GTR. The vice president already said, if you want power go GTR.

:stirthepot:

littlejuanito 09-02-2015 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderer1234 (Post 3299087)
Nissan is confused on what to do. They don't want to bump the horsepower on the current Z in fear that it will hinder the sales of the GTR. From a manufacture's point of view it would be stupid to have two cars produce fairly similar power when one is less than half the price of the other one.

Then why not get rid of the GTR, bump the horsepower on the new Z and sell more units. Im sure the GTR is not cash cow for Nissan. (that honor goes to the Altima and the Sentra I think).


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