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SINISTER 01-29-2017 10:14 PM

More power = less reliability
Done with more power....this car is more than enough power.
Its a corner carver not a drag racer....
Dont need it wont waste my money on it.

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2017 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 3609205)
500 HP for $50K sounds great. What Japanese import can boast that. But then I'll believe it when I see it

Edit: looks like $50K is for the 400 HP version. LOL

If I had to speculate? I'd say the 400HP Z would be about $8000 cheaper than the 400HP Q60.

I think the $60k Z will be the 500HP Z. Rightfully so...

Dirk McGurck 01-30-2017 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER (Post 3609360)
More power = less reliability
Done with more power....this car is more than enough power.
Its a corner carver not a drag racer....
Dont need it wont waste my money on it.

On the one hand I agree with you, on the other

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chubbs 01-30-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3609413)
If I had to speculate? I'd say the 400HP Z would be about $8000 cheaper than the 400HP Q60.

I think the $60k Z will be the 500HP Z. Rightfully so...

Interestingly, when the GT-R was first released in 2008/9, it was 479hp for $69k (or £56k in Britain) - and it was considered a bargain. So, $60k (maybe £50k in Britain) would make a 500hp Z car even more of a bargain than the original GT-R.

I just hope that any new 3.0 litre Z car costs the same or less than the current 370, even if it has somewhere in the region of 400hp. Personally I think Nissan will give the new Z significantly less than 400hp (maybe 370hp?), leaving themselves with room for successive power hikes, as the years go by. Hope I'm wrong.

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2017 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER (Post 3609360)
More power = less reliability
Done with more power....this car is more than enough power.
Its a corner carver not a drag racer....
Dont need it wont waste my money on it.

You can get the base 4 cylinder option n ride around reliably....:hello:


I'll take my chances on poor reliability n go for the gusto!!!:driving:


With the next GTR possibly heading to 800HP.I don't think 500HP will be that big o deal.

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jcasti07 01-30-2017 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3609496)
Personally I think Nissan will give the new Z significantly less than 400hp (maybe 370hp?), leaving themselves with room for successive power hikes, as the years go by. Hope I'm wrong.

As nice as that would be, look at all of the "power hikes" they gave the Z34 in 8 years. Lol. I wish i could be more optimistic, but...

SINISTER 01-30-2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3609622)
You can get the base 4 cylinder option n ride around reliably....:hello:


I'll take my chances on poor reliability n go for the gusto!!!:driving:


With the next GTR possibly heading to 800HP.I don't think 500HP will be that big o deal.

New R36 Nissan GT-R Specs Allegedly Leaked - autoevolution

Wont need the 4 cylinder I have a 6 cylinder right now:ugh2: ....I got 18k on a 2011 this car will last me 25 years...:yum:

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2017 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER (Post 3609691)
Wont need the 4 cylinder I have a 6 cylinder right now:ugh2: ....I got 18k on a 2011 this car will last me 25 years...:yum:

I'm not trading my Z34. I'm adding a Z35

NISMO IX 01-30-2017 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3609752)
I'm not trading my Z34. I'm adding a Z35

:iagree:

RicerX 01-31-2017 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by triso07 (Post 3608813)
lol

Be careful when strongly stating opinions as fact, talking as though you're in the know, or speaking in absolute.

Be careful selecting posts, taking them completely out of context, and using them to try to make a halfwit point.

RicerX 01-31-2017 09:47 AM

Regarding the talk of a 304hp base model, I think this means we'll see the return of the VQ35 into the Z. Longitudinal version of what we've seen start in the Maxima and proliferate through the Pathfinder, QX60, Murano, and Altima. This also means that the VQ37 will be completely finished by 2018 after the exit of the 370Z and Infiniti QX50. End of an era, indeed.

My concern is that the base V6 model may be the only place to find a manual transmission if one is offered. I absolutely hope to be wrong here, but I can see that fitting. Hopefully Nissan realizes that at least the 304hp and 400hp version of the car absolutely require a manual. A hybrid version making 500hp-ish... I can see the case where they stick to using the DCT exclusively. Come to think of it, I can't think of any car south of $100k that offers a manual transmission mated to a hybrid configuration at all.

RicerX 01-31-2017 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3609229)
Nissan has one shot left with me.. if the car isn't up to par with competition I'm going to make the jump to the Cayman. A good friend is a dealer and has already told me when I was ready to make the move he has a nice GT4 Cayman.

Dude... no lie... the Cayman GT4 is one of my favorite sports cars of all time. I got to sit in one at my Father-In-Law's Porsche show (he has a 911 Turbo), and I was immediately hooked. I might have hurt his feelings when I told him I liked it more than the 911 as far as seating position and styling goes.

MagmaRed370z 01-31-2017 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3609752)
I'm not trading my Z34. I'm adding a Z35


Same here.:driving:

Ape Factory 01-31-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3609930)
Regarding the talk of a 304hp base model, I think this means we'll see the return of the VQ35 into the Z. Longitudinal version of what we've seen start in the Maxima and proliferate through the Pathfinder, QX60, Murano, and Altima. This also means that the VQ37 will be completely finished by 2018 after the exit of the 370Z and Infiniti QX50. End of an era, indeed.

Given the fact the Z will most likely be based on the same chassis as the Infiniti Q50/60, and the Z will be (hopefully) neither be FWD or AWD, there'd be zero reason for a longitudinal engine layout.

The base engine, if there is one, is going to be the same twin turbo 3.0L found in the Q. Or...a higher output version of the 4-cylinder Mercedes-based engine which is producing up to 375hp in their cars. That would match what Ford has done with the Mustang and MB has already said they're working on a new high output 4-cylinder. They (MB) get increased revenue with no R&D and Nissan gets a somewhat lightweight and potentially powerful 4-cylinder mated to a DSG gearbox. Take a test ride in an Audi S3 which is every bit as quick as the current Z with more bang/buck when it comes to mods (short of going forced induction on the Z). If they do have a 300hp version of the 4-cylinder, it'll piss off the Q50/60 owners that get a 200hp version of the same engine. Maybe they'll be getting a bump followed by bumps for the "base" 3.0TT and RS version. Wishful musings.

Still, I think the base engine will be the VR30DETT. That's where they've put all their R&D $$$.

chubbs 01-31-2017 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jcasti07 (Post 3609682)
As nice as that would be, look at all of the "power hikes" they gave the Z34 in 8 years. Lol. I wish i could be more optimistic, but...

True, but you only have to go back to the Z33 - 350z in 2003/4, which started at 279hp and gradually crept up to 313hp, by 2007/8. I like it when Nissan do that to their engines.


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