My man.... 2 months late on the press kit. Not even an interior update. Not even a turbo engine retrofit. Not even a tune on the current engine. Not even the rear foglight now being standard.

The GTR gets everything. We GET NOTHING!

Every fvckin year.

By the time they come with a new Z. Nobodies gonna give a fvck. That M2 is looking better to me... As is the corvette GS.

Those fvck Nissan bells are starting to ring in my head.

The Z is a great car. But how is Nissan bringing excitement to the brand as a whole. By dumping all their money in the sports car most can't afford???
The Z is the sports car of the people and it's being neglected. Pathetic. But the leaf gets updates like crazy. N they sell less than us....
They might as well rebage the Z and call it they Nissan Zero

For zero SUBSTANTIAL updates in 8 model years.

Yea given this its leaning towards at the earliest late next year at best for a new arrival which I feel for 80% of the current ownership a bit too little too late. Unless it's some carbon featherweight with 400-450hp for 55k it'll die very quickly on showroom floors.

Agreed! and Lol at the "Nissan Zero"

there are always people that buy things, but the numbers plummeted on how many got sold. same thing would happen with the Z... if you think 7,000 units is low, at 60k i think maybe 3,000 would get sold.

Always loved Nissan.
But Nissan seriously has dropped the ball on the 370. For the price they charge for a Nismo version (all versions acually, but Nismo more so) I'd rather get a Shelby GT350. Now dont get me wrong, overall I dislike Mustangs, but for the price and the performance..........yeah GT350. Which is why I bought my 2013 sport model used. And the interior! Good God, why is it so hard to update that?! At least the gauges if nothing else and the lighting, should have gone with blue instead of red. Ok, end of rant.........or is it? *dun, dun, dun*

A niche vehicle, limited production, isn't a terrible thing.

The alternative is ... seeing the Z in rental car lots. :D

I'm being slightly tongue-in-cheek here, as a balance between the two is the sweet spot, but one that's very difficult to achieve.

You know how this current M3/4 is just a tad more expensive than a C7 right, but they're about the same performance wise and price?...Well, the Z32 TT was the same performance wise, and price, as a C4 and prolly better performing than the M3 of that generation. What I'm saying is that it was a bonafide $60,000+ car in 1990ish dollars....Heck I think the Z32tt was better peforming than NA Porsche 911s and whatever else they dished out in the early 90s. NA 911s were still $60,000+ in the early 90s.....It was a different time back then. The z32TT was avante garde for a Japanese sports car; that, the NSX, FD3s, MKIV TT, 3000GT VR4, etc. It was the golden age of Japanese sports cars.

Who knows, the Z35 may step it up so that it can compete with a C7 and M3/4??

That was towards the end of the Z32's run, but specifically the mid 1990s because the japanese yen was too expensive in exchange rate to USD. All the twin turbo Japnese sports cars suffered the same fate. Supra MKIV TT's were hitting $50,000 MSRP before it bowed out in 1998 or whatever.

The Titan (until this year), Frontier, Z, Xterra, and Quest have idled for an egregious amount of model years relatively unchanged. The sports car market is diversifying and has many different offerings at competitive prices. The midsize truck market is on the upswing with new offerings as well as significant revisions from existing models. The minivan market is seeing some new offerings. The SUV (body on frame, not crossover) is slowly dying on the vine. The Xterra is dead, and I think the 4Runner is next (though not necessarily soon), and the Jeep Wrangler will be the last man standing there.

For all of these models, Nissan has displayed a massive lack of ability to pull the trigger on product design. It seems that they want to stick with what they're successful at and continue doing what's safe. The GT-R is there largely to placate the remainder of the stud engineers at Nissan while serving as a marketing tool, so it serves as an exception to Nissan's tendency toward BLAND PEOPLE MOVERS AND VOLUME SALES.

I feel this brand has lost its thirst to compete and be different with some of its offerings. I truly feel they have NO IDEA what to do with the Z. Or the Frontier. They poached a bunch of guys from Dodge to make the Titan happen, otherwise I think they would have bailed there.

Infiniti's brand crisis over the last several years has not helped the situation. The Maxima could nearly be badged an Infiniti with an AWD option, but the Q50 could nearly be badged a Nissan. They have to do something to make Infiniti different, and dare I say the Z has a better place at the Infiniti brand with the direction they're trying to take. The GT-R does as well. Let Nissan be the economical brand and Infiniti be the experience brand.

I think Nissan has gotten too damn big to adequately and effectively respond to changing market conditions. On the front, it looks as though they're gunshy, but they're not. The company grew so quickly, and the only way they could effectively manage it was to insert new levels of management. A company that could turn a concept around to a production vehicle within 18 months is now a company that lets its flagship truck hang around completely unchanged for 11 years, its longest running halo sports car relatively unchanged for 9 years, and nearly kill off its flagship sedan due to being at a completely loss as to what to do with a "sports sedan".

Once Infiniti can prove themselves (they're setting sales records this year due to the success of the Q50 alone, and they're going to do even more with the Q60), they're going to be the brand we want Nissan to be. It's sad - the late 90s Nissan had so many vehicles that enticed me I had no idea what to buy. Now, I honestly would buy nothing from them new. (I realize Infiniti is pretty much Nissan, but it's not).

The Q60 Red Sport is what we want the Z to be - let's be honest. It's a milder M3. A boosted sports coupe with massive interior improvements and the looks to wrap it all up.

Automotive brands do one of two things with their products typically - they offer products with which their buyers and owners grow, or they grow and enhance their products alongside their buyers. They evolve with the feedback from those that own them, or they serve as a gateway to the next vehicle in their lineup.

With the Z, Nissan has done NEITHER ONE of those things. The Z hasn't evolved with its buyers in NINE YEARS, and now that many Z owners are ready for the next thing, Nissan is hoping those owners have increased their buying power by 314% in nine years so they can hop into a GT-R. For 99.9% of Z drivers, this **** isn't happening.

There will be the diehard Z guys that will always stick around, and maybe they're just counting on that to be the case. I'm left very disappointed with this, however. It's so... uninspiring. Time to branch out, I guess, eh?

WOW, it seems some of you guys don't understand what a Z is all about. It is a no frills driver car that is a great driving experience for a great price. The 300zxtt went way above that at a cost too. Z's have always been mod friendly so you can customize them to your own liking. The 350z was a good try but totally missed the styling of a Z. I never liked them. I would personally like to see a through back design more like a 240z of the new age. The 370z is close to that. Anyway, whatever. I love what I have and don't see changing anytime soon.

Honestly the pricing doesn't matter. The real question here is will there be a new model

Its not that great of a price really. Overpriced for what you get. Yes its fun, but cost to value just isnt there. Now I love my Z, but I'm also not blinded by that love. Your statement on the 240z aspect is correct on all points! (in my opinion).

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No. It is because the r32gtr wasn't allowed into the US then, hence the z32tt being nissans flagship sportscar then. I am aware that the s30 was meant to be an affordable no frills sportscar, and a cheaper alternative to a corvette. I watched the national geographic docu on it. But times change, and cars do not have to fit typecasts.....Mustang and camaro V8s are 45,000 cars brand new. Thats not exactly bang for buck like theyre intenddd to be. Paradigms shift. Nothing stays the same. Things can and do change.

Thank you for the time and energy you put into writing this. You captured the very essence of the Z enthusiast in how we feel.

It's like we're being tortured for the ones who didn't support Nissan instead of being loyal to us

Nissan really sucks

1. You're in a 13. For you. You're just getting into your car. Some of us have owned two Z34's already.
2. We love what we have we want to evolve or grow with the Z experience. It's what car companies are supposed to do We're not lost. Nissan is ....
3. In my case. I don't want a replacement. I want an addition. I have hopes of F.I tuning and decided aftermarket turbo pricing as of lately is unreasonable. I decided that's blowing too much money. Rather tune an inherent F I engine.

Don't fault us for wanting to grow.

Nissan is Not serving their family justly The enthusiasts drive around in the statement for the company. Halo drivers sell cars. How does a 9 year old Z do that?