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kholy 09-08-2014 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrvaxx (Post 2957684)
Wait...they are claiming that you broke your car by not doing an oil change? That is shitty.

Worst feeling ever. No lights or anything was on.

DOOMMONKEY777 09-08-2014 06:27 PM

Wtf? Man i feel bad for u. Just buy a used engine from crashed cars and drop it in ur self save hella $ but no warranty, with 10k buys u warranty ur choice, me personally i would just buy n drop it in my self.

OMGWTFBBQ 09-08-2014 06:45 PM

You could always buy this one: http://www.the370z.com/parts-sale-pr...le-bodies.html. Build it and drop it in. Problem solved. All depends on your budget.

diego@vossen 09-08-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kholy (Post 2957669)
I have, they said unless i can provide a receipt of an oil change within that 2k miles i am hosed.

What i dont like mostly was how dealer treated me... i had to call after 4 weeks gave no info and now they just said something internally is wrong. There is noooo way i am paying them for diags if they just tell me something internally is wrong.

thats not to bad 5k...

how you like stillen any pics of car?

Yeah not bad at all. Here is my G37

Long read but my whole story on the engine failure is all well documented.

A Blown, Aired-Out Infiniti G37: The Perfect Japanese Luxury GT Coupe? | Speedhunters

Hope you get through this man. Just a bump in the road, it will be alright.

phunk 09-08-2014 07:17 PM

I wouldnt throw in the towel too quickly. I would contact Nissan corporate and battle it out a little bit. Unless it ran out of oil, the oil change didnt cause it. I go 5000 miles between most my oil changes and my car is heavily modified, over 60k, no problems.

roplusbee 09-09-2014 01:49 AM

I think you should get NISSAN Corp involved. It just sounds like the dealer is starting the shuffle dance. I call BS.....

Either you are leaving something out or the dealer is on some new and improved stuff, but something is not adding up!

KramChaos 09-09-2014 08:14 AM

Did you go over the 3750 miles for your oil change or 7500 miles? Per our manual, you can do either schedule so if you are over 3750 miles you can make your case that you didn't need to do oil changes until 7500 per your manual but you wanted to be cautious and use the 3750 schedule. You should certainly push on this more; they can't just say you went over your oil change so its your fault...

DIGItonium 09-09-2014 08:15 AM

Sounds like a blanket statement without giving you specifics. Definitely call up NNA just in case your motor consumed oil, which eventually led to failure regardless of how often you changed your oil. Doesn't the motor make all sorts of funky sounds before seizing up?

FPenvy 09-09-2014 08:19 AM

VK56 swap.

Ubetit 09-09-2014 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KramChaos (Post 2958232)
Did you go over the 3750 miles for your oil change or 7500 miles? Per our manual, you can do either schedule so if you are over 3750 miles you can make your case that you didn't need to do oil changes until 7500 per your manual but you wanted to be cautious and use the 3750 schedule. You should certainly push on this more; they can't just say you went over your oil change so its your fault...

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...ml#post2927427

Limeybastard 09-09-2014 10:43 AM

What is the story behind this originally?


EDIT never mind found it

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...ont-start.html

Ubetit 09-09-2014 10:46 AM

^ Sounds like an very extended oil change interval with no checking of the level. My Accord goes 7.5-9k on an oil change with miles to spare (according to Blackstone labs). What you can't get away with is running around on 2-3 quarts of oil doing that oil change interval.

kholy 09-09-2014 09:32 PM

So any ideas on good places to get motors? would anyone put anything better in? i want to know my options so if i am paying out of pocket

aszyd 09-09-2014 09:47 PM

VK56 swap! (or ls motor) You could do something crazy like an SR20DET... You'd have to build it and boost it like crazy though.

Spooler 09-09-2014 10:37 PM

It sounds like the issue is the dealer. I know when I was a tech a pathfinder came in with a rod hanging out the side of the block. The oil filter had never been changed with over 15,000 miles on it. Nissan would use an oil filter and the last digit would be a 1 to let you know it was the factory installed filter. You shouldn't have to prove an oil change was done. Just my .02. Any dealer that does that is jonesing for the extra cash.

diego@vossen 09-10-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kholy (Post 2959318)
So any ideas on good places to get motors? would anyone put anything better in? i want to know my options so if i am paying out of pocket

Really depends on your budget and whether this is your daily driver or not. If I had another daily I would had moved forward with rebuilding my blown motor better than before but financially I was not ready and with my car being my daily, it was my reason to just say screw it drop a used motor in and get me back on the road asap!

I would still fight this though or at least have Nissan meet you partial of the way to pay for a new engine. Worst they can say is NO! Worth a shot. If you buy a used motor and swap it out you can always keep the blown one to rebuild like I am doing plus no down time since you will still have your car while the other engine is getting built.

I found it cheapest to just have my dealer find me a used motor and drop it in. Pricey! but quick and painless and got me back on the road enjoying my car again :)

Mbreese 09-10-2014 11:11 PM

Man I would lawyer up and start causing trouble they are trying to strong arm u trust me I know I use to work for dealerships ! Call other dealerships and find someone willing to do warrantee work

zefaulter 09-11-2014 12:11 AM

Fight back! Don't give up your right... Talk to Andrew, he knows his ****

Joepro 09-13-2014 05:02 PM

Tell them you want to meet with the DPSM and here it from them, otherwise its the dealer saving their warranty expense, there is bulletin on these motors using oil, use that in your favor.

Mbreese 09-13-2014 05:04 PM

Exactly !!!!!!!!!!

kholy 09-30-2014 07:47 PM

Just had an interesting twist in my problem.... So Nissan called and said i need to pick my car up or they will start charging me storage. I had my nice neighbor tow it home for me and got the Z back in the garage while i decided what i would be doing with it. I have a mechanic friend who really wanted to come look at the car so he came over with his scantool and did a scan on the car. He saw the cam shaft sensor bank A error which i had previously. Hes like did you check the sensor maybe just the sensor bad. I said i didn't replace it. he pulled the sensor and was like see if it starts now. Started right up after cranking a few seconds. Was able to let it run and shut off and back on. So now i am very angry with my local dealer who told me my motor was completely blown and wanted like 10,000$ to replace it. They ended up charging me 300$ to do diags on my car and all they could tell me was my engine was blown and i needed a new engine.

Sorry for my long ranting, need to find out what to do about nissan and my **** but my car started!!!!

OMG! :driving::owned::tiphat::hello::pics::rofl2:

Joepro 09-30-2014 08:02 PM

Maybe I missed it what was the code? Nissan crank and cam sensors are notorious...but if its the dreaded p0011, well good luck....could be a vtc hub or a stetched chain...low and dirty oil will stretch a chain. Replace the sensor and fix the car before you get mad...and mad won't get your money back keep your cool and talk to the right people at the dealer...you will have to go higher than service but dealers shut down a lot when you threaten and act like a JA...the vtc hub actuators do not like dirty oil it's actually in the GSM to change the oil and test with some cam codes

zefaulter 09-30-2014 08:03 PM

Interesting! That's lucky! Get that oil changed ASAP lol

kholy 09-30-2014 08:08 PM

Nissan Dealership Issues
 
So Recently in the start of Aug my 09' 370z stopped working while I was driving. I had the car towed to my local Nissan dealership. I explained that I was driving and the car had shutdown on me and would not start back up. After 1 week of Nissan having my car they said they would need to do further tests as their initial tests they could not get the car to start/figure out any problem. They then called and wanted to charge me 300 dollars to do more diags and compression tests (Which they said if insurance covers the car will be covered). They did the compression tests 2 weeks later because they had to wait for some tools and a lift (i dont understand this as this was reason i took to nissan thinking they would have the equipment) and determined that the motor has jumped time and was blown and would need replacement. So after a few weeks of arguing about warranty because i was over an oil change and they said i was low on oil which caused the car to jump time (which now that the car is back i checked the dip stick and the car was at the L but has oil).

So I had the car sitting in the garage and a buddy of mine wanted to look at the car and see what he could find out. First thing him and I did was run a scan on the car again and saw the code was still a Sensor throwing the error. We unplugged the sensor and tried to start without the sensor and the car started right up after a few seconds of cranking. Ran fine and sounded perfect.

Now, what do i do about nissan? My car is running and i am going to replace that sensor but they charged me A) 300 dollars for doing nothing, B) wanted me to spend 10k on a new motor and C) was complete dicks about every single thing. (for example: explaining after market intakes cause these sort of problems)

Thanks and sorry for long rant

kholy 09-30-2014 08:10 PM

it was P0340

Camsaft Position Sensor A Circuit (Bank 1 or single sensor)

PENDING

Dreadnaught 09-30-2014 08:12 PM

I would call Nissan consumer affairs and pitch a bitch to them and file a complaint. The tech and/or service writer were trying to bend you over for some money in my opinion.

1slow370 09-30-2014 08:17 PM

try changing the sensor and change the oil and see if it comes back.

kholy 09-30-2014 08:18 PM

ordering sensors first thing tomorrow

Trips 09-30-2014 08:20 PM

Even though they did almost nothing? You still may have to just bite the bullet and eat the cost, and move on to another dealer. :ugh2:

The good thing is you basically fixed it for the cost of the dealer time plus the cost of the bad sensor.

Good job! On diagnosing it yourself. :tup:


EDIT: I merged your threads

kholy 09-30-2014 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Trips (Post 2984231)
EDIT: I merged your threads

ha, thanks i was pretty fired up and needed to express myself

1slow370 09-30-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kholy (Post 2984225)
ordering sensors first thing tomorrow

The other thing to do before you spend the money on the sensors is to swap the bank1 and bank two sensors. If it is the sensor it will throw code p0345 instead of the current p0340, otherwise you can spend $130 on sensors that you cant return and won't fix the problem. Do this first.

Edit: if the code doesn't move it may be a wire or connector or something physically wrong in bank one like a stuck timing pulley.

Joepro 09-30-2014 09:09 PM

ec-270 in fsm.

kholy 09-30-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2984291)
ec-270 in fsm.

???

Joepro 09-30-2014 09:34 PM

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/370Z/Coupe/2009/EC.pdf

kholy 10-01-2014 08:22 AM

If there is a known problem with these sensors should i get an aftermarket sensor or a factory sensor again (after i test to see if bank switches)

clkio 10-03-2014 05:54 AM

With sensors, I always stick with OEM. But dude, you really got do something about that stupid dealership. At minimum, they should fix the sensor for free.

djlouedwards 10-06-2014 08:15 PM

You need to go back go to that dealership and demand your money back for the diag fee. I am a manager at a nissan dealership, so I know first hand that what they did is very illegal. They completely miss diagnosed your car and charged you for just that. First try the service manager, if he can't help you at all, go to the general manager. If that doesn't work you should take them to small claims court. Just make sure you document all the repairs you made. It should be cut and dry.

Joepro 10-06-2014 08:22 PM

its been a few days...fixed or not?

kholy 10-10-2014 09:17 AM

Sorry I have been out of town traveling and unable to get new sensors to try or even switching the sensors.

Hopefully tomorrow i will get a chance to diagnose more with the car.

Thanks guys!

kholy 10-10-2014 09:26 AM

So my one concern is that Nissan told me my compression test came back and said i had 80lbs of compression and they told me i should be around 170. Would my motor have started if i was really at 80lbs of compression?

Also, I was thinking of contacting the BBB.... suggestions? not really sure how the best way to go about this is. I also had a claim open with NNA so i could call them back as well.


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