Warranty-Voiding Modifications...

pty370z · 07-03-2009, 11:21 AM

Hi guys,

I'm fairly new to the forum.. Hopefully, I will be the owner of a brand new 370Z Touring with Sport Package sometime between August and October..

I'm pretty sure you guys around here can help me out listing for me which modifications I'm safe doing without voiding my factory warranty...

My initial plans were to do the "basic" stuff like CAI, cat-back exhaust, headers, short-shifter, anti-sway bars, springs or coil-overs, tires/wheels, engine oil cooler, Stillen or unorthodox underdrive pulley...

I don't know which one of these will void the warranty and which ones are safe.. Any help appreciated...

gatorfast · 07-03-2009, 11:43 AM

Nothing will void your entire warranty. However, if one of the parts you put on causes the car to malfunction then dont expect the dealer to cover it under warranty.

whoady4shoady · 07-03-2009, 11:45 AM

They have to be able to prove that whatever you did to the vehicle casued the problem. It is very hard for them to void your warranty from what I understand.

spearfish25 · 07-03-2009, 11:52 AM

Hard for them to void your warranty, but easy for them to deny your claims and make your life a living hell.

nogoodname · 07-03-2009, 12:39 PM

whatever you pull out becomes void..like taking out the stock intakes....warranty gone on those....things like that....check to see if ur dealer is willing to install some mods...if they do, they will keep the warranty untouched.

TT the car probably voids everything...lol

zZSportZz · 07-03-2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoady4shoady

They have to be able to prove that whatever you did to the vehicle casued the problem. It is very hard for them to void your warranty from what I understand.

I hate it when I see this statement...because it makes it sound like it is all on the dealer and that they will honor ANY claim unless they can 100% without a doubt prove otherwise. This is SOOOO far away from how it really works.

Heres how it really goes...

Engine blows --> dealer sees -enter performance mod here-
Dealer: Sorry, claim denied
You: But my -enter performance mod here- had no effect on the engine blowing!
Dealer: Sorry, claim denied - we believe it did
You: No it didn't!
Dealer: Sorry claim denied.

Now what? Now you have to spend the time and money to fight for your rights...most of the time it will cost you more in the long run than repairing the car yourself.

Court battles cost a ****-ton of money. Trust me, I know.

Modshack · 07-03-2009, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zZSportZz

I hate it when I see this statement...because it makes it sound like it is all on the dealer and that they will honor ANY claim unless they can 100% without a doubt prove otherwise. This is SOOOO far away from how it really works.

Heres how it really goes...

Engine blows --> dealer sees -enter performance mod here-
Dealer: Sorry, claim denied
You: But my -enter performance mod here- had no effect on the engine blowing!
Dealer: Sorry, claim denied - we believe it did
You: No it didn't!
Dealer: Sorry claim denied.

Now what? Now you have to spend the time and money to fight for your rights...most of the time it will cost you more in the long run than repairing the car yourself.

Court battles cost a ****-ton of money. Trust me, I know.

You are exactly right. Everyone here loves to spout the Magnuson-Moss Act, but the real world is very different. Prove it did not cause the failure (on your $$$$$ dime)

whoady4shoady · 07-03-2009, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zZSportZz

I hate it when I see this statement...because it makes it sound like it is all on the dealer and that they will honor ANY claim unless they can 100% without a doubt prove otherwise. This is SOOOO far away from how it really works.

Heres how it really goes...

Engine blows --> dealer sees -enter performance mod here-
Dealer: Sorry, claim denied
You: But my -enter performance mod here- had no effect on the engine blowing!
Dealer: Sorry, claim denied - we believe it did
You: No it didn't!
Dealer: Sorry claim denied.

Now what? Now you have to spend the time and money to fight for your rights...most of the time it will cost you more in the long run than repairing the car yourself.

Court battles cost a ****-ton of money. Trust me, I know.

If you blow your engine, of course. I was tlaking about samll problems and if you only have small mods like exhaust, intake, and such.

pty370z · 07-03-2009, 03:25 PM

Well, I think I should've mentioned the fact that I'm not in the United States.. I guess it is all dealer dependent then...

Would it be advisable to stick with "minor" modifications (intake, short-shifter, tires/wheels, anit-sway bars) while the vehicle is under warranty to avoid any kind of trouble..??

CBRich · 07-03-2009, 04:31 PM

There is no court battle involved with that scenario. You contact your regional Nissan rep. He meets you at a dealership and he tells the dealer what they will or will not do for free.

Modshack · 07-03-2009, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pty370z

Well, I think I should've mentioned the fact that I'm not in the United States.. I guess it is all dealer dependent then...

Would it be advisable to stick with "minor" modifications

It would unless you're willing to roll the dice..

whoady4shoady · 07-03-2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich

There is no court battle involved with that scenario. You contact your regional Nissan rep. He meets you at a dealership and he tells the dealer what they will or will not do for free.

This is what I have been told by a friend who had a situation with his vehicle, but I dont know all the specifics.

zZSportZz · 07-03-2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich

There is no court battle involved with that scenario. You contact your regional Nissan rep. He meets you at a dealership and he tells the dealer what they will or will not do for free.

Sure there is, when the Nissan rep says no...then what?

You give up?

I pretty much consider the dealership and Nissan rep as the same entity.

The Nissan rep isn't on your side. He isn't there to speak for you.

I've been down this path before with a dealership who refused to fix a differential do to "aggressive driving" which they had NO clue of even knowing. Try that one on for size. The almighty rep agreed with the dealer.

Edit: This was not a Nissan dealership, it was a Chevy dealership.

whoady4shoady · 07-03-2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zZSportZz

Sure there is, when the Nissan rep says no...then what?

You give up?

I pretty much consider the dealership and Nissan rep as the same entity.

The Nissan rep isn't on your side. He isn't there to speak for you.

I've been down this path before with a dealership who refused to fix a differential do to "aggressive driving" which they had NO clue of even knowing. Try that one on for size. The almighty rep agreed with the dealer.

Edit: This was not a Nissan dealership, it was a Chevy dealership.

That is not nice. What ended up happening?

CBRich · 07-03-2009, 09:19 PM

I had a Honda rep overrule a dealer and get me a new transmission. It will depend on your rep but it gives you someone to pester enough to get some help.

07-03-2009, 11:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
pty370z Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Panama City, Panama Posts: 654 Drives: over the speed limit Rep Power: 17	Warranty-Voiding Modifications... Hi guys, I'm fairly new to the forum.. Hopefully, I will be the owner of a brand new 370Z Touring with Sport Package sometime between August and October.. I'm pretty sure you guys around here can help me out listing for me which modifications I'm safe doing without voiding my factory warranty... My initial plans were to do the "basic" stuff like CAI, cat-back exhaust, headers, short-shifter, anti-sway bars, springs or coil-overs, tires/wheels, engine oil cooler, Stillen or unorthodox underdrive pulley... I don't know which one of these will void the warranty and which ones are safe.. Any help appreciated... __________________ 2010 Solid Red 370Z * *Touring-Sport-6MT Black Interior Performance:** STILLEN * BERK * UR * MISHIMOTO * K&N * Z1 * ZSPEED * UPREV * DBA Interior: GT-R Red Start/Stop Button * MSA Floor Mats * PW:JDM Exterior: INGS+1 * SEIBON * FUJIMURA * PW:JDM * UAM * KICS * VOLK

07-03-2009, 03:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
pty370z Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Panama City, Panama Posts: 654 Drives: over the speed limit Rep Power: 17	Well, I think I should've mentioned the fact that I'm not in the United States.. I guess it is all dealer dependent then... Would it be advisable to stick with "minor" modifications (intake, short-shifter, tires/wheels, anit-sway bars) while the vehicle is under warranty to avoid any kind of trouble..?? __________________ 2010 Solid Red 370Z * *Touring-Sport-6MT Black Interior Performance:** STILLEN * BERK * UR * MISHIMOTO * K&N * Z1 * ZSPEED * UPREV * DBA Interior: GT-R Red Start/Stop Button * MSA Floor Mats * PW:JDM Exterior: INGS+1 * SEIBON * FUJIMURA * PW:JDM * UAM * KICS * VOLK

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07-03-2009, 11:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
gatorfast Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SoFla Posts: 120 Drives: Z4 M Coupe Rep Power: 289	Nothing will void your entire warranty. However, if one of the parts you put on causes the car to malfunction then dont expect the dealer to cover it under warranty.

07-03-2009, 11:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
whoady4shoady A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,088 Drives: 09 Silver Nismo Rep Power: 17	They have to be able to prove that whatever you did to the vehicle casued the problem. It is very hard for them to void your warranty from what I understand.

07-03-2009, 11:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Hard for them to void your warranty, but easy for them to deny your claims and make your life a living hell.

07-03-2009, 12:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1764	whatever you pull out becomes void..like taking out the stock intakes....warranty gone on those....things like that....check to see if ur dealer is willing to install some mods...if they do, they will keep the warranty untouched. TT the car probably voids everything...lol

07-03-2009, 04:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	There is no court battle involved with that scenario. You contact your regional Nissan rep. He meets you at a dealership and he tells the dealer what they will or will not do for free.

07-03-2009, 09:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	I had a Honda rep overrule a dealer and get me a new transmission. It will depend on your rep but it gives you someone to pester enough to get some help.