Intakes and catbacks warranty issues

joeyz10 · 04-07-2009, 12:22 AM

Hey I would like to know if our warranty will be void if we will install the cold air intakes and also catbacks and exhaust systems? Any inputs?

Greg · 04-07-2009, 12:38 AM

Anything short of FI, internals and may some suspension mods etc . Shouldnt void. but...It really depends on the dealer, while some are mod friendly, many are not.

Safest bet would be factory backed Nismo S-tune parts, most of these parts will definitely not void your warranty.

joeyz10 · 04-07-2009, 12:42 AM

Thanks that's what I thought and maybe will do but I heard Nismo might be more expensive

Josh@STILLEN · 04-07-2009, 12:58 AM

Dealerships like dealing with trusted parts, there is no doubt about that. We deal with hundreds of Nissan dealerships across the country, a lot of them have upfitting programs installing STILLEN parts on vehicles before they are sold.

But aftermarket parts acceptance can vary by dealership and their understanding of the aftermarket.

Musashi · 04-07-2009, 08:01 AM

my dealer was fine with the parts, especially when I mentioned they'd be Stillen.

Forumite · 04-07-2009, 09:59 AM

Even then it shouldnt void the entire warranty.

It makes no sense that a cold air induction would void the power train for instance.

LiquidZ · 04-07-2009, 10:09 AM

Become familiar with the Moss Warranty act.

ChrisSlicks · 04-07-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Forumite

Even then it shouldnt void the entire warranty.

It makes no sense that a cold air induction would void the power train for instance.

Yes, but they could claim that the air filters used were inferior to OEM which caused dirt to enter the engine for example. But that certainly didn't cause your differential to explode.

How about as far as running HPDE or auto-x, do they have any grounds to void the warranty if you've been "racing"?

McSqueeb · 04-07-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

Become familiar with the Moss Warranty act.

I looked into this awhile ago after I had a number of people tell me about it. My understanding was that they can never void your warranty due to the installation of aftermarket parts. However, if they prove that the specific part in question was absolutely responsible for the mechanical failure, they can deny coverage at that point. A company can never require only a certain brand of parts to be installed in order to keep your warranty valid. This was only based off some internet research and talking to some people on other forums. I never really checked into the legality of it.

alan93rsa · 04-07-2009, 04:32 PM

The problem with all of this is when it gets to the lawyer level. How deep are your pockets? That said I doubt Nissan will make too big a deal out of a cat back exhaust or intakes.

Porsche would void your MAF sensor warranty if you had K&N's on the car. My service advisor told me to save my stock filter in the event I had a MAF or cat failure. Glad he did because a cat failed, $3200 for the pair.

McSqueeb · 04-07-2009, 04:38 PM

Yeah I hear you on that. The law seems to mean well, but in my experience, the companies are EXPERTS at finding some way to not cover your claim. It has happened to me a few times before and like you said, I am not willing to get a lawyer to fight it and all that. It simply wouldn't be worth it.

SoCal 370Z · 04-07-2009, 04:55 PM

When you go for warranty, and especially a large ticket item, corporate becomes involved and reviews the entire picture: how much you paid for the car; if you purchased their extend warranty, and how much you paid for that; service reports (how much they have come out of pocket for other warranty issues, and whether you followed the major service mileage marks); aftermarket equipment. This is where having not squeezed every dime out of the deal pays off. A friend daughter works for Toyota corporate in their warranty claim department...interesting stuff to say the least on how they handle matters.

alan93rsa · 04-07-2009, 07:22 PM

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This is where having not squeezed every dime out of the deal pays off.

From a corporate point of view I don't see why they would care if I paid $300 or $3000 over invoice. Logic would have it that a dealer that sold cars at a lower price would move more cars. That would be good for corporate, no?

I agree on the rest.

SoCal 370Z · 04-07-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by alan93rsa

From a corporate point of view I don't see why they would care if I paid $300 or $3000 over invoice.

It's a matter of your cash outlay, as they essentially make a judgment call and take into consideration what you paid; the dealers are a contracted extension of Nissan. Someone paying MSRP has a better chance of getting high ticket items fixed versus the same person who didn't, especially near the end of the warranty. I believe it is GT-R Man who is a dealer, and has received a beat-down here about buying a car, but he has some truth to the his points. I know several people in the business, and when we bought our 370Z we were fair about the deal, on all facets. We didn't pay MSRP, but we also didn't go rock-bottom...that was intentional on our part.

arcticreaver · 04-08-2009, 02:45 AM

if health insurance companies can deny you a claim, so can car dealers. they have people especially to look ways to get them out of liability. liability = money to be paid. no company wants to have liability if they do not have to.

the dealer might say, "hey, we are cool with aftermarket performance stuff." but when something does happen, you never know what they will say next.

i mean this is stuff that COULD happen, not saying that all dealers are like this, but you never know.

04-07-2009, 12:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
joeyz10 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370z AT/ RRSS 08/ Rep Power: 17	Intakes and catbacks warranty issues Hey I would like to know if our warranty will be void if we will install the cold air intakes and also catbacks and exhaust systems? Any inputs?

04-07-2009, 12:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Greg Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Francisco Age: 57 Posts: 551 Drives: 06 350 ZR CS Rep Power: 300	Anything short of FI, internals and may some suspension mods etc . Shouldnt void. but...It really depends on the dealer, while some are mod friendly, many are not. Safest bet would be factory backed Nismo S-tune parts, most of these parts will definitely not void your warranty. __________________ Chef Greg At Your Service

04-07-2009, 04:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 221	The problem with all of this is when it gets to the lawyer level. How deep are your pockets? That said I doubt Nissan will make too big a deal out of a cat back exhaust or intakes. Porsche would void your MAF sensor warranty if you had K&N's on the car. My service advisor told me to save my stock filter in the event I had a MAF or cat failure. Glad he did because a cat failed, $3200 for the pair. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

04-07-2009, 04:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
SoCal 370Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: US of A Posts: 2,842 Drives: Answers Rep Power: 34	When you go for warranty, and especially a large ticket item, corporate becomes involved and reviews the entire picture: how much you paid for the car; if you purchased their extend warranty, and how much you paid for that; service reports (how much they have come out of pocket for other warranty issues, and whether you followed the major service mileage marks); aftermarket equipment. This is where having not squeezed every dime out of the deal pays off. A friend daughter works for Toyota corporate in their warranty claim department...interesting stuff to say the least on how they handle matters. __________________ ( Click to show/hide ) Why I NEVER say NO to the Panda Lou Fusz!!!

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joeyz10 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370z AT/ RRSS 08/ Rep Power: 17	Thanks that's what I thought and maybe will do but I heard Nismo might be more expensive

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Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 534	Dealerships like dealing with trusted parts, there is no doubt about that. We deal with hundreds of Nissan dealerships across the country, a lot of them have upfitting programs installing STILLEN parts on vehicles before they are sold. But aftermarket parts acceptance can vary by dealership and their understanding of the aftermarket.

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Musashi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 357 Drives: 09 370Z 6speed Rep Power: 607	my dealer was fine with the parts, especially when I mentioned they'd be Stillen.

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Forumite Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 142 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 17	Even then it shouldnt void the entire warranty. It makes no sense that a cold air induction would void the power train for instance.

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LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 705	Become familiar with the Moss Warranty act.

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McSqueeb Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: AZ Posts: 4 Drives: 01 330i silver M5 Rep Power: 17	Yeah I hear you on that. The law seems to mean well, but in my experience, the companies are EXPERTS at finding some way to not cover your claim. It has happened to me a few times before and like you said, I am not willing to get a lawyer to fight it and all that. It simply wouldn't be worth it.

04-08-2009, 02:45 AM	#15 (permalink)
arcticreaver Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 769 Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG Rep Power: 925	if health insurance companies can deny you a claim, so can car dealers. they have people especially to look ways to get them out of liability. liability = money to be paid. no company wants to have liability if they do not have to. the dealer might say, "hey, we are cool with aftermarket performance stuff." but when something does happen, you never know what they will say next. i mean this is stuff that COULD happen, not saying that all dealers are like this, but you never know.