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Forrest 12-14-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1449457)
but doesn't the BCM suppose to handshake with the steering lock first, then tells the ECU the car's ready to start? :confused:

tell the dealer to check the steering lock revision. there's a barcode on the unit they can scan to get datecode and revision number. If your car has RevA or RevB, it needs to be changed.

also remember that this problem seems to occure more when the battery is weaker (colder weather, some cars with 3yr old poorly maintained batteries). if your battery has better cca due to warmer day, etc. chances are it can make the failed unit work again temporarily.

The ECU is just what they said over the phone. They have not even seen the car yet. It was just a wild guess/possibility.

I didn’t realize there was a proper way to maintain the battery. How does one maintenance a car battery. I get my oil changes at the dealership every time.

kenchan 12-14-2011 06:05 PM

the battery need to be charged and floated when not in use. especially if your car is a hobby car like mine it needs to be on a battery manager (battery tender) during the week or during hibernation.

my dd (G35C) is also on battery manager on the weekends. my short 22mile round trip commute (where half is bumper to bumper) is not enough to charge the battery. my car is 7.5yrs old and still running factory battery. :p

Forrest 12-14-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1449699)
the battery need to be charged and floated when not in use. especially if your car is a hobby car like mine it needs to be on a battery manager (battery tender) during the week or during hibernation.

my dd (G35C) is also on battery manager on the weekends. my short 22mile round trip commute (where half is bumper to bumper) is not enough to charge the battery. my car is 7.5yrs old and still running factory battery. :p

I use my car every day of the year. Normal size trips.

kenchan 12-14-2011 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 1449729)
I use my car every day of the year. Normal size trips.

yah, most car batteries seems to only last about 3-4yrs these days under normal use. in favorable climate it might last longer but not by much.

weak battery apparently contributes to the failure but not the root cause. :)

xSaintx 12-16-2011 04:54 PM

This just happened to me today. On the way to work this morning and I stop to get some gas. No issues. Get back into the car and press start and uh oh, nothing. I tried both keys and a jump, but still nothing. I got a flatbed tow to the dealership and luckily for me, it was RIGHT across the street. Unlucky for me, it turns out it was my steering lock unit malfunctioning and costs $800 bucks for them to order and it won't come in for a week. They have no loner cars available either. I love it.

kenchan 12-17-2011 10:47 AM

sorry to hear xsaintx. so you locked your car when you stopped in for gas? or left the door unlocked?

im starting to think keeping the doors unlocked doesn't help cause the steering locks anyway when the car is turned off...

paigeone 12-17-2011 12:01 PM

got my car back on tuesday after being towed to dealer.the turn around was one day.they overnighted the part,installed next day. all work covered under warranty.the dealership i have been taking my z is not were i got the car. were i go for service is "mod" friendly. they were the ones that installed my f.i. exhaust. so hats off to fread beans nissan in limerick pa.

kenchan 12-17-2011 12:26 PM

^^ sounds great, paigeone! at least your dealer did watever they could to make a bad situation go much much smoother. :)

kyrick 12-19-2011 09:56 AM

Add one more Z falure
 
My 2010 with 7200 miles died in a Wal-Mart lot Friday afternoon. The key emblem lit up and brake pedal stiff and locked in park. Had it hauled to dealer Sat morning. Hope for Mon or Tues fix. At least it is still under warranty.

Megan370z 12-19-2011 11:34 AM

ohhh well, on my first day of Christmas vacation , I have that same problem that you guys have been dealing with !!

FML!!!!!!
the Z is waiting for the towing and then process his way to the dealership !
I'm about 3000kms from my warranty to expire ! thats a good timing after all and my steering lock assy is #48700-JF00B


the key warning light has been on for a bit over a week now and it is stuck in the Lock position with the steering wheel unlock.

kenchan 12-19-2011 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kyrick (Post 1455327)
My 2010 with 7200 miles died in a Wal-Mart lot Friday afternoon. The key emblem lit up and brake pedal stiff and locked in park. Had it hauled to dealer Sat morning. Hope for Mon or Tues fix. At least it is still under warranty.


sorry to hear. let us know your car's build date. So far up to Oct 2009 build has been affected on the 2010's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megan370z (Post 1455483)
ohhh well, on my first day of Christmas vacation , I have that same problem that you guys have been dealing with !!

FML!!!!!!
the Z is waiting for the towing and then process his way to the dealership !
I'm about 3000kms from my warranty to expire ! thats a good timing after all and my steering lock assy is #48700-JF00B

the key warning light has been on for a bit over a week now and it is stuck in the Lock position with the steering wheel unlock.


sorry to hear about this as well. thanks for the info megan on the lock assy! :tup:

GaleForce 12-19-2011 12:34 PM

At the rate these are failing on this forum alone, I hope Nissan would "goodwill" those with problems out of warranty in the future...

kenchan 12-19-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1455565)
At the rate these are failing on this forum alone, I hope Nissan would "goodwill" those with problems out of warranty in the future...

i hope they just do a recall for all affected Z's regardless of warranty and be done with this non-sense.

it's bad enough nissan used the same bad parts on affected non-GTR cars and did not 'drill deep and wide' on this quality issue. i am 99.99% sure nissan's intelligence is aware of this issue.

3SeventyZ 12-20-2011 10:43 AM

Had this problem a couple weeks ago and had the steering lock replaced under warranty..
I knew what the problem was as soon as the car wouldn't start and showed the key fob symbol on the dash..

cevans87 12-20-2011 03:09 PM

Well they did a "goodwill" of a whopping $200 towards any service needed on my Nissan. Such ********.

I told the woman on the phone that plenty of us on the forums have had this happen and this is my 3rd Nissan, it is unacceptable that this happened and isn't being covered. My car is only 4000 miles out of warranty and I paid $1200 out of pocket to have it fixed.

She went on to say that it was a non-negotiable offer. I said it was ridiculous that they are aware of problem and refuse to actually do an official recall. I stated that I'd like to talk to the person who she talked to about getting me the "good will" payment, she said "He doesn't talk to customers"

I was pretty livid, I was able to get his title and an address in Tennessee where their Corporate offices are located. I will probably wind up writing them a letter, but I'm doubting anything useful will come of it. I'll post it later when I get home as it's scribbled down on a sheet of paper. I'll also give everyone here her direct extension, maybe you can at least get 2 free oil changes (whoop-de-doo)

kenchan 12-20-2011 07:34 PM

Cevans that's crazy. I thought Nissan's corporate headquarters is in Torrance, CA? I would write to their public relations.

Baer383 12-20-2011 08:33 PM

Reported!!

kenchan 12-26-2011 02:37 PM

here you go.. quick DIY... it's stupid easy to do... no more than 15min. no interior parts to remove. :D hahaha.

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ml#post1463523

simota1 12-26-2011 06:10 PM

subscribed :D

370zproject 12-26-2011 07:35 PM

mine is doing it now i left it at home when i went outta town i was outside never had any issues with it now i got the intelligent key system warning light and nissan is closed lol! why the car starts

Thechidz 12-26-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 516103)
The "No Key" light is different then the "intelligent Key Warning light"
It comes up on the left hand side panel. (see page 2-10 "Instrument controls" of your owners manual) If this light comes on, that's the one you need to worry about, take it too your dealer, before you need to tow it.
Your's may just be a weak battery in the key fob, in that case replace with a CR2032.

ok, sorry but a little confused... the No Key light or the Intellegent key warning, which is the one you need to worry about? This thread is making me paranoid:ugh2:

kenchan 12-26-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 1463755)
mine is doing it now i left it at home when i went outta town i was outside never had any issues with it now i got the intelligent key system warning light and nissan is closed lol! why the car starts

try the banging steering column trick. unlock the steering column and bang it up and down pretty abruptly. the steering lock could unfreeze.

also try unplugging the unit. the tab is on the top side of the harness. take it off count a few sec and re-plug. do that a few times and try re-start.

if your battery charge is low see if you can trickle charge it 30min -1hr too. that could potentially help.

but once your car starts get the car checked over cause it will fail again apparently.

370zproject 12-26-2011 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1463863)
try the banging steering column trick. unlock the steering column and bang it up and down pretty abruptly. the steering lock could unfreeze.

also try unplugging the unit. the tab is on the top side of the harness. take it off count a few sec and re-plug. do that a few times and try re-start.

if your battery charge is low see if you can trickle charge it 30min -1hr too. that could potentially help.

but once your car starts get the car checked over cause it will fail again apparently.

:tiphat:

370zproject 12-27-2011 10:14 AM

well i took it to the dealer .. and got out and talked to the guy said id have to bring it back later and guess what i got back in and started it the light went off lol XD fml but cool so i got the fobs batt's replaced anyways

luckyguytim 12-27-2011 04:46 PM

bad steering lock solenoid
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xSaintx (Post 1452760)
This just happened to me today. On the way to work this morning and I stop to get some gas. No issues. Get back into the car and press start and uh oh, nothing. I tried both keys and a jump, but still nothing. I got a flatbed tow to the dealership and luckily for me, it was RIGHT across the street. Unlucky for me, it turns out it was my steering lock unit malfunctioning and costs $800 bucks for them to order and it won't come in for a week. They have no loner cars available either. I love it.

my 09' 370z has been in shop for same reason, bad streering lock soledoid. bad news is nissan has no ETA date for the part and only thing we can do is just wait! suck! nissan saying weeks or could be months befor release the part. if you get any news! let me know.

kenchan 12-27-2011 04:53 PM

lucky- i posted links to courtesyparts in the DIY (p2). they appear to have the steering locks in stock.

luckyguytim 12-27-2011 05:04 PM

they have it in stock but no ETA date. mean they can't not sell untill nissan release the part!

kenchan 12-27-2011 05:16 PM

that doesnt make any sense.

luckyguytim 12-27-2011 05:23 PM

they are must be invastigating or hiding somthing!! service at nissan dealer can't even get answer from factory! lot's of people are just waiting for parts!!

kenchan 12-27-2011 05:28 PM

you should call up courtesy parts tomorrow. i am sure they can ship you the parts they have in-house.

Forrest 12-30-2011 12:23 AM

Update on my Z. My second time to dealership the Steering Wheel lock was replaced. Now I have a new IPDM and Steering wheel lock. According to my nice service manager he told me Nissan recommends replacing IPDM first. So round two I got the Steering Wheel lock.

Also this may be wrong because I was half asleep when my service manager was talking to me but he claimed both IPDM/Steering Wheel lock are connected to the same fuse and one of them was shorting/burning? it out and my case Steering Wheel lock.

kenchan 12-30-2011 03:03 PM

forrest- good to hear they finally changed the steering lock on your 2nd visit. :)

luckyguytim 12-30-2011 07:06 PM

after 2weeks in nissan service & i got a call from nissan! finally ETA date for my bad steering lock solinoid for jan 17th! can't wait to get my car back.

kenchan 12-30-2011 09:06 PM

dang, wat's taking them so frikken long? :shakes head:

what is your build date, luckyguytim?

370zproject 12-31-2011 01:01 AM

gah my light came back on all i need is a tsb to get it fixed *sigh*

kenchan 12-31-2011 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 1469969)
gah my light came back on all i need is a tsb to get it fixed *sigh*

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1463863)
but once your car starts get the car checked over cause it will fail again apparently.

^^^

370zproject 12-31-2011 10:52 AM

lol i just went to check it and touched it and it went off tsb hurry up before it fails!

kenchan 12-31-2011 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 1470207)
lol i just went to check it and touched it and it went off tsb hurry up before july !

:icon18: hey, atleast you know the techniques to get your car started. Not so scary any more, huh? That was my intent to these discussions and diy. :tup:

370zproject 12-31-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1470305)
:icon18: hey, atleast you know the techniques to get your car started. Not so scary any more, huh? That was my intent to these discussions and diy. :tup:

:icon18:

jenny 01-12-2012 12:43 AM

call 1--800-nissan1
 
had my key light on and car wouldnt start!! then i changed batteries at nissan then go back to my car and got a redcar w key flashing.
we need a lawyer this is and should be recalled!!! we should not let these ******* get away w this!


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