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jcosta79 04-26-2015 10:06 PM

My Baby is on a Flatbed Headed to the Dealership (Clutch)
 
Took the wife out to dinner, came back out, pushed in the clutch, pedal stayed stuck on the floor. No amount of pedal pumping was making any kind of difference. Could not put the car in any gear. Car was stuck. Appears to be a complete failure of the CSC (just my guess).

Tow truck came and hauled it off to the stealership. We'll see what they say tomorrow (hopefully). At least it was a nice flatbed and the guys loaded it without scraping anything. Insurance fully covered the tow. Hopefully the warranty will cover the repairs. (22,000 miles and it's a 2012 so I'm still under warranty by a few months)

The good news is that it's safely in the dealership parking lot awaiting the mother of all hail storms tonight. How awesome.

Gotta laugh or I'll cry. :-)

shika805 04-26-2015 11:25 PM

had this happen to me when i was driving on the free going 70. its a scary thing when the csc fails.

jcosta79 04-27-2015 06:55 AM

Good news is that we did not get any hail in our area. Now to see what Nissan says.

MagmaRed370z 04-27-2015 07:10 AM

Is there a way to prevent CSC failure?

keep us updated.

JARblue 04-27-2015 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3180105)
Is there a way to prevent CSC failure?

keep us updated.

Yes. Replace it with ZSpeed HD CSC or Z1 CSCEK before the OEM one fails.

jcosta79 04-27-2015 05:14 PM

Got a call from the service guy, Nissan says to give the system a full flushing, and let it sit overnight. They will drive it in the morning to see if that resolves the issue. If not, then they investigate further. All covered by warranty, at least.

JARblue 04-27-2015 06:03 PM

Fresh fluid is a bandaid at best. You will be inconvenienced by another tow in the near future, I can almost guarantee.

kenchan 04-27-2015 08:17 PM

:iagree: read too many times same thing happening after fluid only swap.

Zbrah 04-27-2015 09:06 PM

Let me guess...fill it up with GT-R fluid? I swear, I ******* hate Nissan.

jcosta79 04-27-2015 09:30 PM

I agree it's not a real solution but I'm done fighting with dealerships. It is what it is. I got more important things to worry about.

At least the service guy is allowing some time to pass to see if there is still an issue before giving me back the car. I told him keep it as long as he needs to, I just want it fixed right.

We'll see what happens.

Zbrah 04-27-2015 09:40 PM

Like Jar and Kenchan have mentioned, refilling the new fluid may bring your clutch pressure back and it will seem fine for some time, could be weeks or a few months, but you can expect the same thing happening again. A permanent fix would be to replace both the csc and master cylinder, costs about $1000 in parts and labor.

jcosta79 04-27-2015 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3180952)
Like Jar and Kenchan have mentioned, refilling the new fluid may bring your clutch pressure back and it will seem fine for some time, could be weeks or a few months, but you can expect the same thing happening again. A permanent fix would be to replace both the csc and master cylinder, costs about $1000 in parts and labor.

I agree, but since the stealership is paying, I will let them play their game. It's not worth my time trying to argue with them. Once the warranty is up I will likely upgrade properly.

jcosta79 04-28-2015 01:11 PM

It's after 1 and no word yet from the dealership. I'm guessing el flush-a-rooney didn't work.

Even if they replace the slave cylinder, that's not really going to solve the problem, is it?

JARblue 04-28-2015 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 3181590)
It's after 1 and no word yet from the dealership. I'm guessing el flush-a-rooney didn't work.

Even if they replace the slave cylinder, that's not really going to solve the problem, is it?

Not if they put another OEM one in. But if they put one in, you should get at least a year or two of driving on the new one - unless you're doing a bunch of hard launches they usually last at least 15-20K miles (I got over 50K on mine before I replaced it prior to failing). Your best hope is for it to last until you need to replace your clutch. Then you can take that opportunity to upgrade the CSC to one of the aftermarket solutions.

jcosta79 04-28-2015 04:13 PM

Just heard back... They are replacing the slave cylinder.

Zbrah 04-28-2015 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 3181742)
Just heard back... They are replacing the slave cylinder.

You're a very lucky man. Since they're supplying the labor, ask them if you can provide your own aftermarket csc and master cylinder for them to install. Saves you from having to go through this again later down the road.

JARblue 04-28-2015 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3181759)
You're a very lucky man. Since they're supplying the labor, ask them if you can provide your own aftermarket csc and master cylinder for them to install. Saves you from having to go through this again later down the road.

:iagree: see if they'll install aftermarket one for you :tup:

I don't know about lucky though. I'm pretty sure he's still within the 3yr/36K mile warranty. Lucky would be if they covered it under the 5yr/60K mile powertrain warranty.

kenchan 04-28-2015 11:46 PM

lucky would be not having any problems to begin with.. :ugh:

Mike B CCTX 04-29-2015 07:02 AM

I had same issue with my 2013 Nismo. I'm tracking mine maybe 7-8 times a year. First stuck clutch pedal happend fortunately on a cool down lap at MSR Houston. The track shop flushed my system with Motul 600. Everything worked done for rest of track events, but pedal stuck at home about a week later in city traffic. Fortunately. I have a great dealership. They know I am tracking the car. When they checked it out, the CSC had failed (it has plastic parts near high heat sources). Transmission also had metal shavings in it. They replaced my transmission under warranty, and at no charge, put on my aftermarket Z1 performance CSC, South Bend Stage 2 clutch and lightweight fly wheel. Have had two track events (COTA and TWS) with no issues. They even do my pre-race tech inspections at no charge as well. But too bad Nissan doesn't redesign the CSC to a more robust one.

JARblue 04-29-2015 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3182078)
lucky would be not having any problems to begin with.. :ugh:

No ... that would be a miracle :icon17:

kenchan 04-29-2015 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3182307)
No ... that would be a miracle :icon17:

:rofl2: hahaha!

I am buddist empty inside..:ugh:

Zbrah 04-29-2015 04:14 PM

I'd consider that as lucky IMO. It's uncommon that the stealership would offer to replace the csc on first visit. As we have seen in the past, the they usually just fill it up with new fluid and send him on his way until it fails again then he's sol because the 3 yr warranty had ran out:rolleyes:

jcosta79 04-29-2015 08:09 PM

Heard back from the dealer. I asked him how replacing the damaged CSC with the same model CSC would solve the problem. He said Nissan is replacing it with an updated part and it's not the same one I have on the car. It's taking a few days for it to get here.

Has anyone else heard of this?

Limeybastard 04-29-2015 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 3183248)
Heard back from the dealer. I asked him how replacing the damaged CSC with the same model CSC would solve the problem. He said Nissan is replacing it with an updated part and it's not the same one I have on the car. It's taking a few days for it to get here.

Has anyone else heard of this?

Never.

Zbrah 04-29-2015 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 3183248)
Heard back from the dealer. I asked him how replacing the damaged CSC with the same model CSC would solve the problem. He said Nissan is replacing it with an updated part and it's not the same one I have on the car. It's taking a few days for it to get here.

Has anyone else heard of this?

Sounds like the typical bull crap coming from a sevice manager. I think Nissan would have released some type of TSB anouncing the updated csc by now.

jcosta79 04-29-2015 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3183349)
Sounds like the typical bull crap coming from a sevice manager. I think Nissan would have released some type of TSB anouncing the updated csc by now.

He said there was one. Hard to believe no one else has heard about it though. Oh well...

JARblue 04-29-2015 10:34 PM

Yup. Call his a$$ out on that :bs:

Same fuckin part...

MagmaRed370z 04-30-2015 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 3183248)
Heard back from the dealer. I asked him how replacing the damaged CSC with the same model CSC would solve the problem. He said Nissan is replacing it with an updated part and it's not the same one I have on the car. It's taking a few days for it to get here.

Has anyone else heard of this?

Nope.

kenchan 05-01-2015 11:25 AM

maybe he was looking at the production lot code and not the revision number. lol

jcosta79 05-04-2015 12:13 PM

Soooooo... New CSC goes in, didn't fix the problem. Hmmm...

Replace with 2016 GTR?

Zbrah 05-04-2015 12:27 PM

:ugh: tell them to cover your aftermarket csc replace, that should fix it.

jcosta79 05-04-2015 12:49 PM

I'm sure they're not going to pay for an aftermarket part.

Zbrah 05-04-2015 01:24 PM

Well if they put in a 3rd oem csc and still does not work then what. Lemon it?

jcosta79 05-04-2015 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbrah (Post 3187863)
well if they put in a 3rd oem csc and still does not work then what. Lemon it?

2016 gtr?

Davey 05-04-2015 06:18 PM

:shakes head:

Really annoying that Nissan cannot just ******* make this right. This is one of a few repeated problems with the car that are just, well, dumb.

Good luck getting your car fixed and working again.

jcosta79 05-05-2015 01:19 PM

On the bright side, I get to keep driving my loaner car... A Versa!!!

Wow what a piece of crap.

MagmaRed370z 05-05-2015 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 3189038)
On the bright side, I get to keep driving my loaner car... A Versa!!!

Wow what a piece of crap.

lol

Davey 05-05-2015 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 3189038)
On the bright side, I get to keep driving my loaner car... A 2016 GTR!!!

FTFY. :icon17:

P's_Z 05-05-2015 09:01 PM

:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3189296)
FTFY. :icon17:

:icon17:

jcosta79 05-06-2015 09:37 AM

So apparently the new CSC is fine, they just needed to bleed it again. They did that yesterday and they want to keep it another day and make sure it stays fixed.

Mama mia.


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