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Thought I'd update. The fix for the top hitting the toneau cover is still working. So far so good. The dealership will fix the paint chips it caused next oil change under warranty. They wanted to fix that sooner, but I wanted to make sure that the problem was resolved before they went through all the trouble.
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I already got a lawyer (and won via settlement out of court). Was super easy and required no effort/money on my end other than sending over a few documents as requested by the lemon law attorney.
I no longer have the vehicle but would absolutely retain counsel (if still under warranty when issue started occurring). |
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After following this thread since I purchased my 2019 in May new in Oceanside of last year, today the board administrators FINALLY VALIDATED my email so I can post. After many months of increasing frustration with the convertible, the new "dealer fix" was finally performed last December at my local dealer in Palm Springs Took four days, as the TSB was evidently being revised while mine was in the shop, but it has worked perfectly to this day. All at no cost to me, of course, and a loaner for the four days. Now up to just over 10,000 miles and loving the car. It replaced a 2018 Mx-5 which was totaled on the interstate between here and LA at 6 am when I hit a bale of hay. My last five cars have been sticks, and I wanted a decent automatic (not a CVT) since my work takes me into mind-numbing downtown LA traffic at least every other week.
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Parts availability of Bungees for 5th bow
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I purchased a 2016 370Z roadster at Mossy Nissan as a Certified Used car with 24,000 miles. Purchased on December 18, 2019. I noticed that the top was noisy and "clunky" when opening/closing. They checked it and said it was OK. I was out of town for a few weeks and didn't use the car. Upon returning, I noticed that the passenger door window didn't properly lower when opening the door. Complained to the sales people who sold me the car. They said that it would be taken care of under the certified car program. Brought car in 12 days ago. Still waiting for new bungees and gasket for the top. What gives with the service parts supply chain? |
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I noticed that nissan posted the name/number of the new fifth bow technical service bulletin (TSB). I looked in CarMD and Alldata but didn't see it posted. Would be interesting to see the details of the bulletin, especially since it sounds like it is 30 pages long.
SB 2010-19 370Z Convertible Top Rubs on Storage Lid when Opening Closing Summary of NTB19061: IF YOU CONFIRM The convertible soft top rubs on the storage lid when opening or closing. ACTION Install the 5th bow bungee kit. * See page 30 for a complete list of what is included in the 5th bow bungee kit. Please see this bulletin for further details. https://www.nissan-techinfo.com/TSB/...l/nmIndex.aspx TSB #NTB19-061 NHTSA ID #10164659 AUGUST 01 2019 Additional Info: How to Fix Summary: 2010-2019 370Z; CONVERTIBLE SOFT TOP RUBS ON STORAGE LID WHEN OPENING/CLOSING IF YOU CONFIRM The convertible soft top rubs on the storage lid when opening or closing. ACTION Install the 5th bow bungee kit. See page 30 for a comp https://www.carcomplaints.com/Nissan/370Z/2019/tsbs/ |
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The service manager at Nissan Mossy dealer on Claremont Mesa in San Diego told me that one of the other service shops of the San Diego dealership had previously replaced the bungees, but installed them incorrectly. The top now operates much more smoothly, and the tonneau cover no longer hangs up on the canvas. The bungees pull the roof cleanly forward and the metal cover no longer makes a loud clunking noise when opening and closing. Still not a slick quiet process, but much better. I did notice that they had cut part of the cloth on both sides, where the bungee attaches. I plan to take it back to further question them about the long term consequences of that. One of the service managers, Manny, seemed particularly knowledgable about the problems with the top. He said that this should deal with the problem. He offered some guidelines to preserve the top: 1) Hand wash the car, never use the automatic machines with the big roller brushes. 2) Best to store the car in a garage whenever possible. Preferable to do that with the top up. 3) Exercise the top (open and close it) at least once a week. Although he did not suggest a service interval on the bungees, it would be advisable to have them checked on a regular basis - e.g., when doing routine oil changes. Don't hesitate to spend the extra money to replace the bungees when they start to show signs of excess sagging. He insisted that this should fix the problem and prevent bending and breaking of the 5th bow. I have 2016 that was purchased a month ago as a pre-certified used can (24,000 miles). The work on the top was done as a warranty repair. Let's hope this solves the top problem!!! It is a nice little car, and I hope that it gives me no further problems with the top. Harvey |
HJK,
Nice right up. Hope this stays repaired for you. I have a similar problem in my ‘15. The top bumps when I am putting it down. I hate to say I don’t trust any dealerships as most do not know what they are doing sometimes with these roadster tops I guess it’s time for a road trip to San Diego |
Convertible Top No More
Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread and trying to help with getting my top fixed. After being unsuccessful, due to having a salvage title, have decided to sell it.
Hasta La Vista Baby :( |
For those in the central Texas area I just had my bungie's replaced at Southwest Nissan in Weatherford TX. Only had it back for a day, but seems to be working well. I had contacted three other dealers somewhat local to me and they either would not work on it or said they had no experience with top repairs..
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Follow up on the roof problems with my 370z roadster.
Within a week of the repair and replacement of the bungees and weatherproofing seals, the convertible alarm light turned on even with the top fully open and closed. The Service Manager checked it out and informed me that I could continue to use the top despite the service light as it was due to a defective switch, not likely to cause any problems. They also wanted to completely replace the canvas top as well as the defective switch, and they would call me when the parts arrived. A month later the parts arrived. THe car was in the shop for more than 7 weeks, awaiting various other parts needed for the repair. Fortunately, when I was informed that it was finally ready, and I went to pick it, I tested the function while still at the repair shop. The top totally jammed on the second trial, and was locked in the half open position. I obviously could not use the car. They are once again working to fix the top. All told, I have had the car for slightly more than 4 months. It has been in the shop for at least 3 full months. The Shop Manager suggested that the best course of action would be to completely replace the whole top mechanism. This is a job that normally costs about $18,000! The company Field Rep would not approve this warranty repair, and would only approve additional local adjustments. Two days later, the Nissan Company headquarters contacted me with an offer to repurchase the car under the California Lemon Law Buyback. I am considering returning it with some regret, as I really like the way the car drives, and when the top is down, it is really a hoot on a lovely sunny day. It is a perfect California car. It fills a particular niche in the market. Not as hot as a Boxster, but also not as expensive. More comfortable on even medium length trips than the Miata, and much easier to get in and out of the driver's seat than the Miata. A bit more 'kick' than my previous BMW Z4. The problems with the top have been recurrent, and the likely reason the company terminated manufacture of the roadster. Too bad, as it is a sweet car. The problem is with the top. The Service Manager was superb, very honorable in dealing with me, and made every effort to try to make it work. I recommend him very highly. Harvey |
You need a new Corvette.
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Take the money
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Take the money and run..........it was the best car related decision I have ever made!!
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