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Beachhz 04-18-2014 01:12 PM

Good Deal?
 
I went in to get an estimate for a 2014 370z Touring w/ Sport and Nav. Originally had hoped for a Brilliant Silver but they only had a Gun Metallic so I guess I might have to go with that. But they offered me $575 a month for 48 months with 12K miles a year with 3K down. I want input, but if you're just going to say leasing is dumb, don't just say that, give me an reasonable explanation and what you paid for your financing.

Beachhz 04-18-2014 01:13 PM

Oh btw, forgot to include that its a lease, if you didn't get the context clues.

falconfixer 04-18-2014 01:16 PM

Don't know about the lease terms but will say don't settle on the color. If your heart is set on silver get it or you'll have buyers remorse in the end and be stuck with a **** payment on top.

Beachhz 04-18-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by falconfixer (Post 2786294)
Don't know about the lease terms but will say don't settle on the color. If your heart is set on silver get it or you'll have buyers remorse in the end and be stuck with a **** payment on top.

I practically have buyers remorse about the color and I haven't even bought it yet but I looked at every nissan dealership within 250 miles and nothing. They're really rare, there was one like 120 miles away but it was stick. I like the color but it might be a sacrifice that I have to make for it. Plus it's like another $800 to get from out of state.

ElVee 04-18-2014 03:20 PM

I have an opposite explanation on why you can't find one: They're actually very popular, and get sold. :) I'd estimate that 80% of the 370Z's I see are silver.

But, still, get the color you want. (I don't know leasing, so maybe leasing is different; I bought mine so I definitely waited for the color and had them ship it from the boat.)

falconfixer 04-18-2014 03:37 PM

OP I don't want to derail your thread too much but I'll say this. I wanted a mag black with navi in 2011 and settled on a silver T/S without navi. Ended up hating myself for settling and couldn't wait to get rid of it. Love the Z as a whole however and ended up trading in on a 2014 mag black T/S with navi. Finally got what I wanted but with a shitty looking front bumper that I have to upgrade. In the end, it might be well worth 800 bucks to get what you want the first time around.

As a side note have you conferred with your insurance on what it will cost you when leasing? I've heard horror stories of outrageous insurance coverages ranging up to $3000 on a leased Z.

Beachhz 04-18-2014 03:56 PM

Since I'm under 25, falconfixer, my dad will cover me and I'll just pay him monthly for it. We have Allstate, I don't know all the details but its an additional $142 a month to cover the Z, I got in a MAJOR accident like 2 years ago that was 50% my fault so that's probably why its a little higher. There is also a speeding ticket that will be off my record in the next few weeks that might lower it a bit.

I called a dealership that said they had it online and they're 92 miles away from me, I worked with them and when the time of the deal comes, they said they would deliver it to the dealership for an additional $300, which is awesome.

2014 Touring w/ Sport and Nav. Brilliant Silver with Black Interior. 7A Rev Matching :D

falconfixer 04-18-2014 04:00 PM

Good deal and congrats :driving:

Ninjahero 04-19-2014 12:04 AM

Not bad, I'm 20 and I pay $1300 a year for my insurance for full coverage on my lease. For my lease on the Z its a 2014 GMG A7 15K miles per year. Was $308.91 per month, but I worked out a 1 time lease and paid $6700 for it for the 2 years so averaged to about $279.17 per month

Beachhz 04-19-2014 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninjahero (Post 2786821)
Not bad, I'm 20 and I pay $1300 a year for my insurance for full coverage on my lease. For my lease on the Z its a 2014 GMG A7 15K miles per year. Was $308.91 per month, but I worked out a 1 time lease and paid $6700 for it for the 2 years so averaged to about $279.17 per month

Was it a base? That's seems really low, mines practically fully loaded and I sat there negotiating for almost 2 hours back and forth and I only got to $575 for 48 months with 3K down at 12k miles a year.

and thats below invoice, I believe $39,997 was invoice but its like $200 below that at the moment.

Beachhz 04-19-2014 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ElVee (Post 2786381)
I have an opposite explanation on why you can't find one: They're actually very popular, and get sold. :) I'd estimate that 80% of the 370Z's I see are silver.

But, still, get the color you want. (I don't know leasing, so maybe leasing is different; I bought mine so I definitely waited for the color and had them ship it from the boat.)

Most of the Z's I see are Pearl White and Black, the only reason I want a Silver is because of the color scheme my friend has on his Evo and I want to do the exact same on mine because it looks amazing.

synolimit 04-19-2014 02:57 AM

Never talk monthly. Only price! Once you see what you're saving vs retail ask for interest rate then monthly.

My 13 is $409, 39mo, 12k yr, for a sport with splash guards, trunk mat, and carpet mats. Retail was $37,385 with destination. I paid $35,116 plus $1000 off for leasing and $1250 down. But I also had like $850 negative roll over. If you take out the down, negative and 1k off that payment would be $446.

The reason I said all that is because a 14 sport dropped like $3300 vs my 13! I know your touring/sport/nav is more than mine but $575 sounds like a huge rip off when the 14 is 3k cheaper than my 13 plus you're putting down 3k!! Id like to see the actually numbers.

synolimit 04-19-2014 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Beachhz (Post 2786400)
Since I'm under 25, falconfixer, my dad will cover me and I'll just pay him monthly for it. We have Allstate, I don't know all the details but its an additional $142 a month to cover the Z, I got in a MAJOR accident like 2 years ago that was 50% my fault so that's probably why its a little higher. There is also a speeding ticket that will be off my record in the next few weeks that might lower it a bit.

I called a dealership that said they had it online and they're 92 miles away from me, I worked with them and when the time of the deal comes, they said they would deliver it to the dealership for an additional $300, which is awesome.

2014 Touring w/ Sport and Nav. Brilliant Silver with Black Interior. 7A Rev Matching :D

Wow I've had cars come as far as 300 miles and waited for my Z to come from Japan, never have I paid shipping! $300 is again a rip off.

Beachhz 04-19-2014 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2786933)
Wow I've had cars come as far as 300 miles and waited for my Z to come from Japan, never have I paid shipping! $300 is again a rip off.

Yea, I might just drive up the dealership and drive it back and have a friend take the other car. But was yours with Touring+Nav?

synolimit 04-19-2014 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Beachhz (Post 2786937)
Yea, I might just drive up the dealership and drive it back and have a friend take the other car. But was yours with Touring+Nav?

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2786931)
Never talk monthly. Only price! Once you see what you're saving vs retail ask for interest rate then monthly.

My 13 is $409, 39mo, 12k yr, for a sport with splash guards, trunk mat, and carpet mats. Retail was $37,385 with destination. I paid $35,116 plus $1000 off for leasing and $1250 down. But I also had like $850 negative roll over. If you take out the down, negative and 1k off that payment would be $446.

The reason I said all that is because a 14 sport dropped like $3300 vs my 13! I know your touring/sport/nav is more than mine but $575 sounds like a huge rip off when the 14 is 3k cheaper than my 13 plus you're putting down 3k!! Id like to see the actually numbers.

:tiphat:

Malm 04-19-2014 08:12 AM

You getting your Z from up here in Melbourne? I think they have 1 or 2 brilliant silver 14's on the lot (sport @ least).

Beachhz 04-19-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Malm (Post 2787164)
You getting your Z from up here in Melbourne? I think they have 1 or 2 brilliant silver 14's on the lot (sport @ least).

I'm dealing with Autonation Nissan of Delray, but the car that I want is located in Grieco Nissan of Fort Pierce.

Beachhz 04-19-2014 04:14 PM

I emailed the dealer directly, the one that has the color and I told them this dealership here is offering 2k below invoice and they matched it! Guess I'm driving up their to deal with them instead (my dealership didn't actually offer me $2k below invoice, lol)

Ninjahero 04-19-2014 06:25 PM

Mine was a Sport Package A7, Back up Camera, Floor Mats, etc...

Ninjahero 04-19-2014 06:26 PM

My price is Artificially lower because of the area i live in I get a 5K check back for leasing. So that pays a huge part of why my price was so much lower.

Beachhz 04-20-2014 03:53 PM

TrueCar:
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and KBB/Edmunds are showing around the same. None of them are as low as the $38,500 that I'm getting :D

Beachhz 04-22-2014 01:58 PM

Well sadly after all that time I spent looking at the Z, has been a waste. I needed my dad to put the insurance under his name for the time being because mine was outrageous and since I'm only in my first year of college, he thinks its a waste of money and doesn't approve and think I will be able to keep up with the payments (even though I've shown him my pay stubs from working part time).

I told him I'd pay for the insurance as well but still no and its pretty disappointing that even though I'm 20 years old I can't get the car I want. But I guess I can't complain considering I still live under his roof until I move out after college :/

I was really looking forward to this car to a point where it actually brought a tear to my eye knowing I wasn't going to be able to get it for another few years at least. Who knows maybe I'll get a raise at work or my insurance will drop. All I know is one day I hope to be apart of the Z community.

hadokenuh 04-23-2014 11:59 AM

Well that's too bad. But consider your situation, I wouldn't buy/lease a brand new car, specially a less practical one like the Z. The monthly payments (although $500 seems not much) with gas and maintenance will eat you alive. You'll have to work more with your part-time job to keep up and will eventually focus less on your study. My real advice is get something fun but under 10K (like a 07 Civic Si, Mazda3) and then work on your classes and finish college as soon as you can. Get a real job then you can buy whatever car you want.

dP3NGU1N 04-23-2014 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Beachhz (Post 2790769)
Well sadly after all that time I spent looking at the Z, has been a waste. I needed my dad to put the insurance under his name for the time being because mine was outrageous and since I'm only in my first year of college, he thinks its a waste of money and doesn't approve and think I will be able to keep up with the payments (even though I've shown him my pay stubs from working part time).

I told him I'd pay for the insurance as well but still no and its pretty disappointing that even though I'm 20 years old I can't get the car I want. But I guess I can't complain considering I still live under his roof until I move out after college :/

I was really looking forward to this car to a point where it actually brought a tear to my eye knowing I wasn't going to be able to get it for another few years at least. Who knows maybe I'll get a raise at work or my insurance will drop. All I know is one day I hope to be apart of the Z community.

Your dad is right. Plus college kids drive like morons. Last thing you want is some bro hitting your car after a frat party.

Beachhz 04-24-2014 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hadokenuh (Post 2792152)
Well that's too bad. But consider your situation, I wouldn't buy/lease a brand new car, specially a less practical one like the Z. The monthly payments (although $500 seems not much) with gas and maintenance will eat you alive. You'll have to work more with your part-time job to keep up and will eventually focus less on your study. My real advice is get something fun but under 10K (like a 07 Civic Si, Mazda3) and then work on your classes and finish college as soon as you can. Get a real job then you can buy whatever car you want.

I'm not trying to brag or anything but I make way more than enough to pay for that without the induced stress. If insurance was like $200 a month maybe I would consider it, but it was like $460 a month ._.

Beachhz 04-24-2014 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2792187)
Your dad is right. Plus college kids drive like morons. Last thing you want is some bro hitting your car after a frat party.

Yeah, I can understand where he is coming from. I'm transferring after two years from a state college to a university and he said once I finish state college, he'd help me out with the insurance. I guess that gives me more time to save up for mods and I'll probably purchase it then since the used 2013 models will be showing up more which I can probably be able to pick up for like $30K instead of $40K.

joseZhartford 04-24-2014 04:51 PM

How many insurance companies have u tried? Look around all state quoted me 2300 for a year I was like wtf? I kept looking and amica will cost me 1400 a year still alot for a 33 year old guy like me with no accidents and no tickets ..but keep looking

ElVee 04-24-2014 05:06 PM

After you get out of college and get your first job, *then* start pining to finally get the car you want. There should be no bad feelings if you're 20, right now in college, and can't "get the car you want." Not trying to be harsh. :)

If you got that much extra money, spend it on a girl. Yourself. Save it. Get started early.

joseZhartford 04-24-2014 05:11 PM

I was just thinking after he gets out of college he will have 2 payments his new car and college student loans

Beachhz 04-25-2014 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by joseZhartford (Post 2793884)
I was just thinking after he gets out of college he will have 2 payments his new car and college student loans

I actually got a bright futures scholarship (I live in Florida), and that pays for 75% of my tuition, the rest is being paid by my parents from a fund they've had for years. So only costs are really supplies for school and stuff like that. Both the state college and the university I'm going to aren't more than 10 miles from my house, so there is no point to spend money on an apartment/dorm.

Chuck33079 04-25-2014 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Beachhz (Post 2794394)
I actually got a bright futures scholarship (I live in Florida), and that pays for 75% of my tuition, the rest is being paid by my parents from a fund they've had for years. So only costs are really supplies for school and stuff like that. Both the state college and the university I'm going to aren't more than 10 miles from my house, so there is no point to spend money on an apartment/dorm.

Yes, there is. It's worth paying rent to not live with your parents while in college.

JARblue 04-25-2014 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2794442)
Yes, there is. It's worth paying rent to not live with your parents while in college.

:iagree:

Chuck33079 04-25-2014 08:06 AM

A job just to pay rent, buy beer and fund chasing tail is worth it.

MacCool 04-25-2014 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Beachhz (Post 2786288)
I went in to get an estimate for a 2014 370z Touring w/ Sport and Nav. Originally had hoped for a Brilliant Silver but they only had a Gun Metallic so I guess I might have to go with that. But they offered me $575 a month for 48 months with 12K miles a year with 3K down. I want input, but if you're just going to say leasing is dumb, don't just say that, give me an reasonable explanation and what you paid for your financing.

I think that's high. I just leased a 2014 Touring/Sport with Nav for $560/month for 39 months, 12,000 miles/year, $3000 up front. They looked around for me for a 500 mile radius to find the color and model I wanted, no problem, no arguments.

ElVee 04-25-2014 10:15 AM

Not to detail this topic too much further, I loved, absolutely loved, my years in the dorms and later an apartment in college. But to each their own. I've known all types during my years, from people who loved the experience to those who ran home after 2 days to those who have amazingly fun parents that are actually cool to live with to those who don't need to drink/slack to those who just find it financially agreeable to save money and live at home, etc.

As long as you're happy! :)

I will just say, though, make sure you can *comfortably* afford the vehicle. It sucks to be tied to bad debt that eats up a really big chunk of your income. A car can quickly become a boat anchor in life's journey.

That said, if you get a Z (regardless of the color), welcome aboard! Drive responsibly! :D

Last year I purchased (not leased) a 2013 Touring+Sport for what comes to about $700/mo with 0% financing from Nissan with 0 down. I know, it's not a lease, but if you're happy paying what you're about to pay and you've gotten them to come down at least a little bit and get you the color you want...be happy. :) There's always someone who pays less for whatever reason.

Beachhz 04-25-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2794505)
A job just to pay rent, buy beer and fund chasing tail is worth it.

I'm not a drinker, plus I have a girlfriend. But I do smoke large amounts of weed :yum:

Beachhz 04-25-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2794516)
I think that's high. I just leased a 2014 Touring/Sport with Nav for $560/month for 39 months, 12,000 miles/year, $3000 up front. They looked around for me for a 500 mile radius to find the color and model I wanted, no problem, no arguments.

Yea it was high, and they didn't even have my color. Which is why I contacted a dealership like 90 miles away that had it and dealt with them via email.

They gave me the car $2,000 below invoice which in the end came out to $515 a month, 48 months, 12,000 a year and $2,000 down. Now as far as I can tell that was one of the best lease deals ever for this car. It's a sound moment where I had to let that deal slip away.

But as far as I can tell, your deal and the one you quoted that I posted earlier are about the same since I would be leasing it for 9 more months than you and I'd be paying for more of the car.

Chuck33079 04-25-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Beachhz (Post 2795012)
I'm not a drinker, plus I have a girlfriend.

Get back to us on both of those points after another few years of college. :rofl2:

Solomatrix 04-25-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2794442)
Yes, there is. It's worth paying rent to not live with your parents while in college.

From a financial standpoint no, from a fun/freedom/growth standpoint yes :icon17:

joseZhartford 04-25-2014 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Beachhz (Post 2795012)
I'm not a drinker, plus I have a girlfriend. But I do smoke large amounts of weed :yum:

Hey at least weed it's cheap at least here where I live


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