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SS_Firehawk 07-26-2013 12:03 PM

Frankly I find people complaining about the price drop pathetic. You all obviously saw the value in it in the price you paid for. I doubt most even looked at the resale value before the purchased. Not only that, but trying to get money back is even more ridiculous. So example, Italy, since he's so vocal about it; He bought his base sport Z for $32k. The retail listing is about $37k and change. If he got all the mats, mud spats, glowey Z door thing, w/e, the true market price is the average selling price of each new vehicle with those particular options. Frankly, I bought my car for $32k and change, it's a base/sport in 2011. Logic tells me, the new selling price is in line with what we both thought it should be. I don't see how anyone's argument about devaluation is going to stick. For anyone to bjtch and moan about it because they thought they got a screaming deal and loved it, to turn around and say they wanna get rid of it after it took this claimed depreciation hit, is an idiot. People doing this will only lose more money and it will not matter how "pretty" you sit, if there wasn't a hefty deposit dropped, chances you are upside down are high. Not only that, factor in the miles put on, it's pretty much guaranteed you will still be paying out of pocket. It's short sightedness of the whole picture. The way I see it, you did not buy this car "Because Race Car", because if you did, you wouldn't be complaining about the money you really didn't lose.

Infidel 07-26-2013 12:03 PM

I just ate a $3k sh*t sandwich, this will be last Nissan I purchase and I will steer other buyers away the best I can. If that's the only satisfaction I get than so be it.

DI*K MOVE NISSAN

b15 07-26-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel (Post 2420146)
I just ate a $3k sh*t sandwich, this will be last Nissan I purchase and I will steer other buyers away the best I can. If that's the only satisfaction I get than so be it.

DI*K MOVE NISSAN

You should sell your Z right away as well. Show Nissan who's boss :ugh2:

Yeah it sucks, and I can sympathize with the consumer. But these irrational comments lack a real understanding of basic business concepts

ShutokuZ 07-26-2013 12:12 PM

I leased my 13 and got a great price on it. I am in love with the car, no mater the price since I am the one who chose to buy it, and sign the contract. I could have waited, but it was my choice not too (although I got it Oct of last year). Just like buying a plane ticket to Hawaii. In the winter, the prices go up, in the summer the prices go down. I buy a plane ticket knowing the price might go down, but I still enjoy the trip anyways!

italy3541 07-26-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2420138)
x1000.

Do you know how the free market works? Do you ever invest in the stock market? (I sure hope not) I don't understand why you are so worried about resale value. Do you plan on selling your car tomorrow? That's the risk you take buying new and something you have to learn to stomach.

While I commend you for trying (never hurts right?), I don't think you'll get very far. They don't NEED to do anything. YOU agreed to buy the car for that price. When you buy a TV and a few months later it goes on sale, do you call up the manufacturer and store and demand some compensation because you paid a higher price? A bit ridiculous don't you think? As far as the Mfg to dealer incentives- the dealer doesn't have to pass this along to the customer. It's a business after all and if they can sell for a higher price and profit, why not?

It's not ridiculous, as for the tv comment. That's why most stores have price match. If it goes on sale or a competitor sells it for less they reimburse you the difference. As for do I plan to sell the car. Yes I never keep cars long. I'm always buying and selling them. So resale value is important. I planned on keeping this z till the next version came out then buy that. By them dropping the price the way they did it puts anyone who bought their car this year in a huge hole. A hole that was not there when they made the purchase. If u ask most people would you buy this car at that same price knowing that its gonna loose that much value most people would not buy. I understand depreciation and how it works this z is my 36th car. Basicly they changed all the factors of the cars pricing and what it's worth and for those of us who have done a recent purchase took the loss. Which I'm not ok with. So I will do what I can to recoupe what I have lost. As I said before it was a cooperate decision to change the price. Would you go buy a z for $37000 right now? Of course not nobody would. If u had my car for a year or more then I prob wouldn't be as mad. But it's been a few months and I'm not ok with it. U dont have to agree with me on it. But it's how I feel and I will do my best to get what I think is right. I would o into more detail but I'm doing this from my phone at work and its a pain to try n type long responses

Chuck33079 07-26-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2420166)
That's why most stores have price match. If it goes on sale or a competitor sells it for less they reimburse you the difference.

Oh, for ***** sake. Price matching? On a car?

And if you're concerned about losing money while trading cars every two years, you should lease.

italy3541 07-26-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2420169)
Oh, for ***** sake. Price matching? On a car?

And if you're concerned about losing money while trading cars every two years, you should lease.

I didn't say price match on a car. He brought up the tv thing so I brought up price match on a tv. Don't twist my words.

2sl0w 07-26-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel (Post 2420146)
I just ate a $3k sh*t sandwich, this will be last Nissan I purchase and I will steer other buyers away the best I can. If that's the only satisfaction I get than so be it.

DI*K MOVE NISSAN

I'm not saying I wouldn't be pissed if I just bought a 2013... But it is always a gamble buying a car late in the year with new inventory rolling in.

However, with this lower price maybe more z's will sell. Its always a good thing to have more z drivers. It makes Nissan keep up development. It reduces our costs on aftermarket parts over time as well.

In the end the 370z has held its value well just as the 350z has. Low production and a semi high crash rate keep them rare. I highly doubt the 2014 price drop is going to effect the value of these cars used in then long run. Now 2015 new z comes out at a lower price point with more performance? Then we have problems LoL.

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b15 07-26-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2420166)
It's not ridiculous, as for the tv comment. That's why most stores have price match. If it goes on sale or a competitor sells it for less they reimburse you the difference. As for do I plan to sell the car. Yes I never keep cars long. I'm always buying and selling them. So resale value is important. I planned on keeping this z till the next version came out then buy that. By them dropping the price the way they did it puts anyone who bought their car this year in a huge hole. A hole that was not there when they made the purchase. If u ask most people would you buy this car at that same price knowing that its gonna loose that much value most people would not buy. I understand depreciation and how it works this z is my 36th car. Basicly they changed all the factors of the cars pricing and what it's worth and for those of us who have done a recent purchase took the loss. Which I'm not ok with. So I will do what I can to recoupe what I have lost. As I said before it was a cooperate decision to change the price. Would you go buy a z for $37000 right now? Of course not nobody would. If u had my car for a year or more then I prob wouldn't be as mad. But it's been a few months and I'm not ok with it. U dont have to agree with me on it. But it's how I feel and I will do my best to get what I think is right. I would o into more detail but I'm doing this from my phone at work and its a pain to try n type long responses

Here's my take on this and I'm done after this:

If you buy and resell, why are you buying new and taking the depreciation hit? 36 cars or not, that's not a very good business model. Secondly, yesterday, $37,000 for a Z may have been a good deal. Obviously it isn't today. That's the risk you take. I would be upset too, but you take things to a ridiculous level. Do you sit and second guess every dollar you spend like this?

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Originally Posted by italy3541 (Post 2420170)
I didn't say price match on a car. He brought up the tv thing so I brought up price match on a tv. Don't twist my words.

I don't think you understand this concept either. Price matching is at the time of purchase or very shortly thereafter. Are you telling me you call up a store months later, after the TV has been in use, and demand price matching if it goes on sale?

Chuck33079 07-26-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2420177)
If you buy and resell, why are you buying new and taking the depreciation hit? 36 cars or not, that's not a very good business model.

This. You've pissed away far more than the difference in resale you "lost" on your 2013.

b15 07-26-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2420182)
This. You've pissed away far more than the difference in resale you "lost" on your 2013.

Exactly. The second you signed those papers, your 2013 (or any new car) lost thousands in value. You could drive it down the street and trade it in 5mins later and not get back what you just agreed to buy it for.

italy3541 07-26-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2420177)
Here's my take on this and I'm done after this:

If you buy and resell, why are you buying new and taking the depreciation hit? 36 cars or not, that's not a very good business model. Secondly, yesterday, $37,000 for a Z may have been a good deal. Obviously it isn't today. Do you sit and second guess every dollar you spend like this?

Also price matching is at the time of purchase or very shortly thereafter. Are you telling me you call up a store months later, after the TV has been in use, and demand price matching if it goes on sale?

I don't buy and resell. I buy what I like then if something else come along I will go and get that. Knowing I am this way I always search for the best deal. Going back and forth to different dealers getting them to beat eachother price till I get to a pint where they won't go any further. By doing this I minimize the loss when I go for the next car. So I take Into account depreciation when I'm making my deals. Yes I do loose money sometimes. Not a ton. It all depends on how bad the dealer wants to sell the car. This current z I bought I spent a month going back and forth to may dealerships to get the deal I wanted. I was pleased with my buy. Now I'm not because they changed the factors.

As for the tv thing. Certain stores will price match up to a year after purchase. I don't wanna talk about tv's I was just responding to a comment made by someone else.

Yes I watch every dollar I spend. And yes I go nuts looking over my purchases. I flip houses as a side business and you have to watch every penny and make up every cent you can wherever you can. I'm not rich and spending large amounts of money on things isn't something I just do for fun. Like most of us I have to finance my cars. So I have to get the best deal possible. I wouldn't care about the price change if they did changes to the car. The fact is they changes nothing they just made it cheaper which now screwed us who just bought.

Infidel 07-26-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2420161)
You should sell your Z right away as well. Show Nissan who's boss :ugh2:

Yeah it sucks, and I can sympathize with the consumer. But these irrational comments lack a real understanding of basic business concepts

I'm not trying to show anyone who's boss. It's my reaction to a DI*K MOVE by a manufacturer. If YOU bought a new car and the next day it was $3k less you would be pissed at some level and maybe to the point of swearing off the brand forever....nothing irrational about it. It's just a manufacturer that decided to say 'to hell' to a few customers in hopes of making it up with more new customers. If Nissan were to do this year after year they would go out of business, there's a "real understanding of basic business concepts" for ya! :icon23:

b15 07-26-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Infidel (Post 2420202)
I'm not trying to show anyone who's boss. It's my reaction to a DI*K MOVE by a manufacturer. If YOU bought a new car and the next day it was $3k less you would be pissed at some level and maybe to the point of swearing off the brand forever....nothing irrational about it. It's just a manufacturer that decided to say 'to hell' to a few customers in hopes of making it up with more new customers. If Nissan were to do this year after year they would go out of business, there's a "real understanding of basic business concepts" for ya! :icon23:

Yes, I would be upset. No, I wouldn't swear them off because I buy what I like for what I think is a good price at that exact moment in time. No one can predict the future.

And no, they wouldn't go out of business. Sounds like you need this :rolleyes:

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Chuck33079 07-26-2013 12:35 PM

The z doesn't sell for ****. If they alienate every 2013 purchaser that might be 10k people. They're trying to boost sales of zs, and a lower price will do that. The 370 has been a sales failure. We've complained for years that the price isn't in line with the performance. Now they've reduced the price. It sucks for people who just bought the car, but in order for the z to continue to exist they have to sell more.


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