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Now where should the cut off be? I have no idea. A 13 bought in 12 I think is to long. But maybe 6 months ago I think is appropriate. It wasnt my choice to slash prices was it? If it was I'd of paid less for my car. I don't think its right that nissan knew what the 14's were gonna cost and let 13's be sold at their prices. They all roll off the assembly line at the same time, only the badge ID changes years. My car rolled off the line less than 2 months ago and was bought directly from Japan!! That's like them saying "he has car #1 and will pay $36,600 but car #291 (if 3500 or something were sold a year, that's 291 a month being built) will go for only $33,000. That's the biggest insult slap in the face they could do to a customer. |
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And regards to your assembly line example. I'm certain that Nissan increased MSRP during the same model year before (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...ust-go-up.html). Same car,same model year, same assembly line. MSRP went up. |
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http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...psf74be742.jpg 2. They know what the cost was, they just didn't issue the rebate fast enough and a lot of people will be hurting and mad. 3. That was an increase of $460! Haha. An increase is fine as it doesn't hurt the older models. And did you really just try and compare $460 to me when its negative $3600 now??! People will never understand! |
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They don't change MSRP every month based on exchange rate, so your argument here doesn't really make much sense. |
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I feel like i should be able to go to the dealership and make an argument. Anyone who doesnt see that this drops the value of ALL 370'z perhaps isnt seeing the big picture. |
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I already did not get the best deal due to a trade that I wanted out of. This now throws my negative equity on the car to a rediculous number and will make refinancing the car even more difficult. |
i don't see what Nissan did wrong. If they listed a product for x amount of dollars, and you agree to buy it, how is it Nissan's fault?
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Btw, those of us with older cars, you're missing the picture, our cars have been devalued too. (Example) I could say, buy my 2009, it's $28k because its touring/sport/nav, a new one is $46k, now... Oh... A new one is $42.5k now... That's a loss of $3.5k of "value" you lost, or could use to justify a higher price (or less devaluation) (Yes I know it was like $43k in 2009) but the advantage of a car going up in price is that it helps keep the resale value up. |
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AND, if the dealers are getting $3,000 back on every 2013 on the lot how come the customers aren't??? |
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There has to be a price adjustment cut off date, it's in every industry and if it is exchange rate related, you don't adjust on a ongoing basis. In our company we evaluate our products on a 6 month basis and sometimes in between if the economical situation calls for it. We than set a date, usually a quarter to adjust the price, and yes it can go up and down. Agreed, usually it goes up due to material and payroll increases, but either way, how else would you do it. If you increase the price you upset people who are just in the process of placing an order but came a week too late, if you lower it, you piss everyone off who purchased a week too soon. Just keep your car for the next 5 Years and the difference will be a couple of hundreds, if at all on resale value, and smile every time you push the pedal to the metal. :-) Sent via Tapatalk |
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Lets go ahead and watch this. Today a 09 sport brings 24k. When the 14's are out and in a few months I bet these prices crash! Hope everyone here likes your car because you won't be selling it anytime soon! That is unless you like a fisting.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps950f93c9.jpg If someone bought a 13 at msrp vs a 14 at msrp in 4 years like you 09 guys you'll be out $4362. That's $90.87 a month. If everyone's ok with what nissan did then please, my paypals my screen name and since that money means nothing to you please send $90.87 a month for the next 48 months. Thank you |
Has anyone brought up this point??
Say you purchased a 2013, and you talked them down $3000 down from msrp. And now a equally equipped 2014 you are only able to negotiate it down $2000 from msrp. Then are they really dropping the car the amount everyone here is saying and what they are advertising (trying to drum up sales) So to sum up what I am saying isn't the truly important number actually the invoice the 370z is?? Unless people here assume that the spread from invoice to msrp will be exactly the same in the '13 model to '14 model. My guess is it will be at least $700-$800 closer and you will not be able to talk a dealer down as much as last year. |
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I like that the price was dropped. Imo, it's more in line with what the car is worth.
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This is equivalent to them coming out with a few model Z. Cars depreciate when a new model comes out I bought my 2013 knowing that they were not redesigning the Z, otherwise I would've waited. But now , basically they have. I like that someone posted the current value in a 2009, because this absolutely effects all Z owners.
Its great they lowered the price. And yes it is more in line with its actual value I suppose But meanwhile, it F***ed all of us. Thanks. |
Does this pricing mean that we will see a new Z in 2015???
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What is the address or email link for Nissan Consumer Affairs?
I am writing them a letter today. |
This may very well drop the buy out value at the end of my lease. Therefore, could be a win for me
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Wow, this really exploded.
1. I bought a '13, and while it's annoying that I could have waited and saved money, that's how life is and how retail is. I can buy today's stuff tomorrow for less. I'm still happy with my purchase. 2. I really kinda get annoyed by people who buy a rock at price X; then three months (or one day or one weekend or one year) later they see that the rock is now discounted and selling at Y. And they get upset. And not just upset, but livid PISSED enough to demand a refund of the difference off the original contract they agreed to (a rock at X price). (No, I'm not a lawyer; but yes this falls under contract law.) I guess I'm just not that guy. Those people annoy me, but it's not a judgemental thing where I think less of that personality; just that I don't do that. 3. I also like that the price dropped, and that was my first comment to a coworker, as it puts the base model close enough to other cars to be a thought for the consumer (Focus ST, FRS...). |
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2013 - MSRP $33,120. When they announced the pricing back in 2013, Yen was 78/1 2014 - MSRP $29,990 Yen is now 98/1 I'm just saying why not wait and see what the 2014 pricing/option changes would be like before getting a 2013? As a consumer I would be knowing full well that a 2014 was coming since they announced a 2014 Nismo way back in March/April. Why not wait and see? If you like the changes go get a 2014, if you didn't like the changes get a 2013. Wait...but I think you said you leased it right? I read on this forum that leasing this car is a bad idea for whatever reasons it was, I don't recall. So, maybe that's why you're so upset. Anyway, seems like we'll all just agree to disagree here. |
The reason I am writing to Nissan is that I am a little pissed. Granted, I agreed to the price I paid for my 2013 on June 7, but someone must have known the price was going to drop and I would have waited 7 weeks in order to get a better price. A couple of hundred dollars would not really matter, but the difference is more than 2 grand (for me).
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In what world of business do you guys live actually, you bought a car you like, so go out and drive it instead of trying to chase an idea, you will not get any money back nor do I think Nissan did anything wrong! And no, I don't have money laying around, but I paid what I thought the car was worth, and was fine with it for the last 3 month, so what is different now. I don't worry about resale value, if you do, than a used 3 Year old car would have been a much better choice to begin with. |
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So, what should Nissan do to avoid the pissed off people? I see three options.
1) Don't drop the price unless the price reflects a drop in materials or whatever. 2) Refund $3000 to everyone who has purchased a 2013 Z in the last 3 months. (Of course, what about that poor shmuck who bought it 3 months and 1 day ago?) 3) Stop selling the car for a period of time as a buffer window to a price change. Then after X time, start selling the car again for that price. (This may also be invoked by warning your customers of the price drop, which any rational customer will just not buy for a while.) If you were a business owner faced with a similar decision, what would you do? Regardless of size, you have your own numbers to deal with and people working for you to whom you're responsible. If you were a business owner of a public business that answers to stakeholders (investors), what would you do and/or tell your investors? In the end, you do what's right for your business. Yes pleasing customers is what ultimately is right for the business, but it's not always that easy or clear cut. |
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As far as resale value, like your opinion, I could not care less. |
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Since everyone wants to bitch about price and **** how bout I just go to where my cousin used to be manager and they hooked me up fat and get the invoice and residual so all you little haters shut the hell up and realize we're all f'ed. |
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