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Leuz 07-27-2013 05:43 AM

I'm another 13 owner who paid the old price few months ago. I have to agree that the price drop annoys me quite a bit, and what annoys me more is that when I'll decide to sell it, it'll be based basically on the value of the last 2014 model but just older (although the same car). Definitely Nissan made a smart business move in today's market, it doesn't matter the real reason they did it, but they screwed up a bunch of people or basically everyone who bought a 13 until now. So, after ranting about it.... I am serious now, What can we concretely do?

italy3541 07-27-2013 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Leuz (Post 2421189)
I'm another 13 owner who paid the old price few months ago. I have to agree that the price drop annoys me quite a bit, and what annoys me more is that when I'll decide to sell it, it'll be based basically on the value of the last 2014 model but just older (although the same car). Definitely Nissan made a smart business move in today's market, it doesn't matter the real reason they did it, but they screwed up a bunch of people or basically everyone who bought a 13 until now. So, after ranting about it.... I am serious now, What can we concretely do?

I have contacted Nissan cooperate and am waiting to hear something back from them. Ill let everyone know what they say when they get back to me.

alvitdk 07-27-2013 05:47 AM

Not sure what the fuss is about. Is might be annoying, but where would you make the cut as a manufacturer? Obvious any price changes would be done with a new model Year. I have a 2013 which I just bought some month ago, but that's life, sometimes you win, sometimes you loose.

Infidel 07-27-2013 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Leuz (Post 2421189)
I'm another 13 owner who paid the old price few months ago. I have to agree that the price drop annoys me quite a bit, and what annoys me more is that when I'll decide to sell it, it'll be based basically on the value of the last 2014 model but just older (although the same car). Definitely Nissan made a smart business move in today's market, it doesn't matter the real reason they did it, but they screwed up a bunch of people or basically everyone who bought a 13 until now. So, after ranting about it.... I am serious now, What can we concretely do?

Unfortunately...not much except call and complain. Anyone know what other '14 Nissan models are going for versus this year? If it pisses off enough people and they make a call then it could turn into something. Who knows. I'll be making my call to corporate on Monday regardless of outcome. With my personality the call may go south pretty quickly depending on their immediate response.

DEpointfive0 07-27-2013 06:28 AM

If the '13 people get a refund, can the few people that are taking the "shít happens" approach, (Minsu and alvitdk,) give me and Tyler (XiP) the money you receive? Obviously you guys are ok with the price you paid, and some of us are REALLY in a bind and can use a bit of extra cash

alvitdk 07-27-2013 06:36 AM

I don't get your point though. Until a few days ago everything was fine and you did not know about the price break. Now you are in a bind, maybe you bought a car you could not afford in the first place. Nothing wrong with that, but saying I don't give a damn about the price difference is not correct. I am just saying I bought the car and spend as much as I thought it is worth it. Getting all tangled up now that the price is lower does not make sense. Yes I was OK with the price I paid, apparently you are not, so why did you buy it anyway?


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DEpointfive0 07-27-2013 06:37 AM

I'll do one better, can I get a written agreement from those '13 owners that will not pursue a refund, and I'll call Nissan on their behalf asking for one, and once I get it, I collect all of it, or 90% of it.

I'll leave Minsu out because I've dealt with him a half decent amount (and I believe he's a good guy), and since his Z had a few thousand miles on it, I don't think corporate will do much on a kinda used car.

DEpointfive0 07-27-2013 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by alvitdk (Post 2421213)
I don't get your point though. Until a few days ago everything was fine and you did not know about the price break. Now you are in a bind, maybe you bought a car you could not afford in the first place. Nothing wrong with that, but saying I don't give a damn about the price difference is not correct. I am just saying I bought the car and spend as much as I thought it is worth it. Getting all tangled up now that the price is lower does not make sense. If it was too expensive before than why did you buy it? Yes I was OK with the price I paid, apparently you are not, so why did you buy it anyway?


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It's the principle of you got fucked out of $4000, (btw, my bind doesn't have to do with me recently buying a car)
I think my analogy of the TV is valid, and I'm wondering where you'd stand on that, or is this $4000 loss ok because cars don't have a traditional return policy?
And if dealers are getting a refund, why aren't you? THAT doesn't piss you off?

alvitdk 07-27-2013 06:42 AM

Oh, OK so I am not a good person because I agreed to buy the car for the price I was OK with. I guess they twisted your arms on buying an overpriced car. Go ahead, I make it official:

You are officially allowed to get my refund if Nissan gives any, in the meantime I enjoy a car which I thought to pay an agreed and accepted price for. Maybe due to the fact that I am in manufacturing and sales business makes me see things a but different, but to each it's own I guess


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DEpointfive0 07-27-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2421215)
I'll do one better, can I get a written agreement from those '13 owners that will not pursue a refund, and I'll call Nissan on their behalf asking for one, and once I get it, I collect all of it, or 90% of it.

I'll leave Minsu out because I've dealt with him a half decent amount (and I believe he's a good guy), and since his Z had a few thousand miles on it, I don't think corporate will do much on a kinda used car.

Actually, let me fight with Nissan acting as you, and when the check comes, donate it to charity, I know I am NOT the most in need of a few grand, but I'll fight for any charity to get a few grand

alvitdk 07-27-2013 06:44 AM

No it does not piss me off, I am under the impression they only get a refund on the 2013 they have in stock after the price lowering and not on cars already sold.

Charity sounds good to me, you have my blessings :-)

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DEpointfive0 07-27-2013 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by alvitdk (Post 2421223)
Oh, OK so I am not a good person because I agreed to buy the car for the price I was OK with. I guess they twisted your arms on buying an overpriced car. Go ahead, I make it official:

You are officially allowed to get my refund if Nissan gives any, in the meantime I enjoy a car which I thought to pay an agreed and accepted price for. Maybe due to the fact that I am in manufacturing and sales business makes me see things a but different, but to each it's own I guess


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Brother, relax, I'm not mad at anyone and I'm not here to point fingers or blame on anyone who is on THIS website. I'm not saying you're a good or bad person either. I'm really truly sorry if it comes off that way through the Internet.
And I am also in business and manufacturing and I KNOW that the market fluctuates and yeah, prices change and whatnot (A few years back we couldn't get stainless steel because China was buying all of it and as a company we lowered our profit margins and issued a statement to the customers stating that the price of our goods might and would go up because of the price of raw goods.)

At this point I believe a refund is VERY likely for those who ask, same with the guys who fought the price on the steering lock before the recall and who got their money back. Same with the people I have personally helped get money back because their car sat in the shop because of a blown motor or some other reason. Yes, they can take the "shít happens" approach, that this is just what happens when you buy a car, but why not ask for a change? It can't really hurt. And again, NO BS, I am MORE than willing to call corporate as you, and if/when that refund comes in, you donate it to charity, or donate it to the troops.

DEpointfive0 07-27-2013 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by alvitdk (Post 2421225)
No it does not piss me off, I am under the impression they only get a refund on the 2013 they have in stock after the price lowering and not on cars already sold.

Charity sounds good to me, you have my blessings :-)

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Lol, sweet! Charity work it is!
If you're serious, I'd unfortunately need a bit of info......
Date purchased, dealer, vin, your full name and address.

Yes sounds sketchy, but I think 50 forum members know where I live because I've sent something to them or they've sent something to me.
And I hope I've got a BIT of forum backing that I can have people vouch for me that (at least I hope) I'm a good guy

Alvitdk, if you're serious, shoot me a PM, or a text, I'm 100% on board to see if I can get some money that'll be given to a charity, and I really am 90% sure I can make it happen

(31O)eight nine three-42O7

blackcherry20 07-27-2013 07:13 AM

Interesting. Already thinking about the opportunity this presents.

DEpointfive0 07-27-2013 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2421247)
Interesting. Already thinking about the opportunity this presents.

Whathuh? Go home BC, you're drunk...

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Although you're most likely at home already... Or at the airport preparing to get drunk... :bowrofl: :tup: :tiphat:

blackcherry20 07-27-2013 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2421250)
Whathuh? Go home BC, you're drunk...

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Although you're most likely at home already... Or at the airport preparing to get drunk... :bowrofl: :tup: :tiphat:

:tiphat: :icon18:
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now :gtfo: :bowrofl:

bghoward 07-27-2013 07:40 AM

Guys, who actually paid msrp? Anyone? Didn't think so. How many of you 13 owners actually paid MORE then the new msrp? Chill out.

The new price mostly reflects the market price of the car anyway. I bought a 2012 base + sport msrp $36k paid $33k. Should I be pissed that they dropped the price to $33k? It's what I paid so no, I'm not. My guess is that no one is getting $3k below msrp on the 14's. Also I got 0% APR, I'm not sure if they are doing that for the 2014

The price was lowered partly because of the yen, and partly because they couldn't sell them at the price they wanted anyway.

Notice that the higher priced models had no change at all, a touring model used to be the same price as a base+sport, now it's a $2k premium. Seriously $5k more than a base! The nismo is now $13k?!! over the base model! They know the demographics, those models appeal to those who are less price sensitive and the sporty models are priced for younger enthuists who are looking at FRS or mustang 5.0s.

Be happy with what you have. Don't let today change the outlook you had yesterday.

DEpointfive0 07-27-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bghoward (Post 2421294)
Notice that the higher priced models had no change at all, a touring model used to be the same price as a base+sport, now it's a $2k premium. Seriously $5k more than a base! The nismo is now $13k?!! over the base model! They know the demographics, those models appeal to those who are less price sensitive and the sporty models are priced for younger enthuists who are looking at FRS or mustang 5.0s.

Not being a new '13 owner, my biggest issue IS the $5000 upgrade to touring... That's ABSURD.

portagent 07-27-2013 09:32 AM

Ok, I am new to this form and have read the posts . I just paid to transfer a 2013 coupe w sport pkg with 9k miles off a lease to my home town for about $500. Price yesterday was 32k. Is this still a good deal ?

peleincubus 07-27-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2421305)
Not being a new '13 owner, my biggest issue IS the $5000 upgrade to touring... That's ABSURD.

Yeah I do not want the sport because I want to change the rims regardless. Would not mind some of the other options if you could pick and chose. For example the brakes would be nice if I could pay just for that option. And I really would like the seats on the touring, but not for that premium. And I never wanted the Bose system because I want to upgrade. So it looks like I will get a base and do my own upgrades as I see fit.

ohohoh123456 07-27-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by portagent (Post 2421375)
Ok, I am new to this form and have read the posts . I just paid to transfer a 2013 coupe w sport pkg with 9k miles off a lease to my home town for about $500. Price yesterday was 32k. Is this still a good deal ?

Well. you can get a 2014 base+sport for 33k MSRP

DEpointfive0 07-27-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by peleincubus (Post 2421402)
Yeah I do not want the sport because I want to change the rims regardless. Would not mind some of the other options if you could pick and chose. For example the brakes would be nice if I could pay just for that option. And I really would like the seats on the touring, but not for that premium. And I never wanted the Bose system because I want to upgrade. So it looks like I will get a base and do my own upgrades as I see fit.

Well, $3k is a deal. You get a garbage VSLD, at least it's not nothing, then those brakes are worth $2000, and the wheels you can EASILY sell for $1000+, not to mention the spoiler and SRM which you cannot add after.

And I'd pay $3k for touring. I personally don't mind the Bose I have now, and I NEED the comfort of the Touring seats, my biggest thing is that I WANT the factory Nav because I think it looks GREAT in that location and I don't want to have my Nav where the stereo is. But at a total of $7k... I don't think so... So if I were to be buying a new 370Z, I actually wouldn't... I'd wait...

pulpz 07-27-2013 02:42 PM

2013 pricing
 
On vacation in Tenessee and have been thinking about getting another Z. After reading this thread glad to hear pricing is coming back a bit, as the price increases over the last couple years had may considering other options.

So I thought I would stop in the local dealership and take a look at the Magma Red since I haven't seen one in person yet.

Turns out the dealership had up-charged about $200 for nitrogen inflation, $200 for locking lugs, and on top of that a "Market Adjustment" of about $1000 on a 2013 Sport Touring.

I chuckled and walked away. It was one of the few times I was disappointed that a salesman wasn't sweating me as soon as I got outa my car. woulda' really enjoyed telling him how asinine his pricing was.

[URL="http://www.tricitiesnissan.com/vehicle-details/2013-nissan-370z-touring-johnson-city-tn-id-4520329[/URL]

portagent 07-27-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ohohoh123456 (Post 2421434)
Well. you can get a 2014 base+sport for 33k MSRP

Thanks, So I guess my question is do I walk and eat the $465 I paid to transfer here or do you think car max may change the price after arrival ?
I haven't made a purchase order and I know they are the no haggle dealer, but havent been in this situation before. Gun- metal gray with sport package is kinda hard to find in this area.

peleincubus 07-27-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by portagent (Post 2421607)
Thanks, So I guess my question is do I walk and eat the $465 I paid to transfer here or do you think car max may change the price after arrival ?
I haven't made a purchase order and I know they are the no haggle dealer, but havent been in this situation before. Gun- metal gray with sport package is kinda hard to find in this area.

That is an interesting situation. I would shop around and do some/phone calls. And see if the difference is worth it. Would also see if they will work with you on bringing the price down a little. And go from there.

SS_Firehawk 07-27-2013 03:28 PM

I would bring up the price of an exact optioned 2014 and show it to them.

Jordo! 07-27-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 7speed (Post 2420703)
Maybe but thats 3000 bucks either way u cut it . In that case if we apply it to 14 z pricie drop, its like sayings that is insignificant.

But your right z is way more car than toyura twins.

Not at all -- my point is strictly a matter of bang for your buck. The Z offers much more bang per buck in my view.

The twins have two major things going for it: It's very hot right now and it should get better MPG.

Otherwise, its simply a matter of how much you like/loathe one over the other -- after all, you could pass on both and get a Mustang or Camaro, which have potentially even greater bang for the buck.

But... if you want a sleek sports car (as opposed to a pony or muscle car, although that line continues to bur...), you pretty much are deciding between the twins and the Z.

Unless, of course, you are also looking at MX-5's, in which case the Z will lose by virtue of being a bit too big.

A hardcore "I want a light, tossable car, and power be damned" kind of consumer will probably only be looking at the twins and a Miata, in which case, the twins are the better option, IMO.

alvitdk 07-27-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2421230)
Lol, sweet! Charity work it is!
If you're serious, I'd unfortunately need a bit of info......
Date purchased, dealer, vin, your full name and address.

Yes sounds sketchy, but I think 50 forum members know where I live because I've sent something to them or they've sent something to me.
And I hope I've got a BIT of forum backing that I can have people vouch for me that (at least I hope) I'm a good guy

Alvitdk, if you're serious, shoot me a PM, or a text, I'm 100% on board to see if I can get some money that'll be given to a charity, and I really am 90% sure I can make it happen

(31O)eight nine three-42O7

Traveling right now in Australia but will be back Monday after next week. No problem giving you the info if indeed it goes to a charity, and I would like to see which one. I will pm you the info and we take it from there, actually a great idea.

PaulZ370 07-27-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2418971)
They're not exactly flying out of the showrooms

That's one of the many reasons I love my Z. It's uniqueness on the road. It's unmistakeable shape (even different from the 350 by a wide margin) gets all the glances and wide eyed oogling that are more or less reserved for exotics. Well worth the price I paid ($36.5K for Touring/Sport/6 Speed/No Nav). But then, I am a true Z fanatic - this is my second Z (my first being a 1990 Twin Turbo)

DEpointfive0 07-27-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alvitdk (Post 2421714)
Traveling right now in Australia but will be back Monday after next week. No problem giving you the info if indeed it goes to a charity, and I would like to see which one. I will pm you the info and we take it from there, actually a great idea.

Sounds good!
(Any charity is ok with me, you decide)

synolimit 07-28-2013 02:44 PM

I decided to raise a little hell on their FB page because the more I think about it the more I'm mad about it and want to see them respond. I'm so glad I leased now because there is no way I'm buying now. I don't need cash or a lower payment but I did want to buy it and I'm not buying it for what my contract says now. If I did get a rebate it'd go to the car so when I do buy its that much cheaper.

If anyone cares

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Leuz 07-28-2013 03:25 PM

Can you paste the link to that fb thread, please? You just need to click where the posted time is and you'll get to a page with your post only.

synolimit 07-28-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Leuz (Post 2422468)
Can you paste the link to that fb thread, please? You just need to click where the posted time is and you'll get to a page with your post only.

https://www.facebook.com/nissanusa/p...53045348190375

Ubetit 07-28-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bghoward (Post 2421294)
Guys, who actually paid msrp? Anyone? Didn't think so. How many of you 13 owners actually paid MORE then the new msrp? Chill out.

The new price mostly reflects the market price of the car anyway. I bought a 2012 base + sport msrp $36k paid $33k. Should I be pissed that they dropped the price to $33k? It's what I paid so no, I'm not. My guess is that no one is getting $3k below msrp on the 14's. Also I got 0% APR, I'm not sure if they are doing that for the 2014

The price was lowered partly because of the yen, and partly because they couldn't sell them at the price they wanted anyway.

Notice that the higher priced models had no change at all, a touring model used to be the same price as a base+sport, now it's a $2k premium. Seriously $5k more than a base! The nismo is now $13k?!! over the base model! They know the demographics, those models appeal to those who are less price sensitive and the sporty models are priced for younger enthuists who are looking at FRS or mustang 5.0s.

Be happy with what you have. Don't let today change the outlook you had yesterday.

bghoward... like a beacon of clarity in a sea of retards

enkei2k 07-28-2013 07:00 PM

I like how people say they signed a contract agreeing to whatever price they paid for the 2013 and now want a refund.

I'm no lawyer, but isn't that a breach of contract?

synolimit 07-28-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2422677)
I like how people say they signed a contract agreeing to whatever price they paid for the 2013 and now want a refund.

I'm no lawyer, but isn't that a breach of contract?

ummm you dont have to pay. you can just turn the keys in and walk away. and this is what everyone with a lease will do unless nissan makes it right and drops the residual. if they dont then the owners will walk. so now a few thousand slightly used 370's will flood the used market and wont be able to sell because why would anyone buy a 13 when a 14 can be had cheaper??? in 3 years this will FORCE nissan to drop the residual or drop the used car sitting on their lots. and in that case im fine with it. ill turn it in and walk away and in a few days/weeks later when a 21k 13 cant and wont sell, ill buy it back for the 18k correct amount. :tup:

for the 13 buyers youre all screwed unless nissan makes it right. and in that case id be very very pissed off.

2xtreme1 07-28-2013 07:06 PM

I saw some 13's on the lot yesterday ...
If I recall correctly I came across a 6mt sport for about 36k ..
I told the sales people "good luck selling for that price once the 14s come in..
Apparently he didn't know about the price drop haha

enkei2k 07-28-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2422688)
ummm you dont have to pay. you can just turn the keys in and walk away. and this is what everyone with a lease will do unless nissan makes it right and drops the residual. if they dont then the owners will walk. so now a few thousand slightly used 370's will flood the used market and wont be able to sell because why would anyone buy a 13 when a 14 can be had cheaper??? in 3 years this will FORCE nissan to drop the residual or drop the used car sitting on their lots. and in that case im fine with it. ill turn it in and walk away and in a few days/weeks later when a 21k 13 cant and wont sell, ill buy it back for the 18k correct amount. :tup:

for the 13 buyers youre all screwed unless nissan makes it right. and in that case id be very very pissed off.

I wasn't saying lease specifically. I never leased a car so I don't know how that works exactly. I was thinking more for financing, since you sign a contract agreeing to the price of the car + payment terms etc.

DEpointfive0 07-28-2013 07:22 PM

Btw, to anyone who wants to fight, you need to mention that dealers are getting $3k back on their '13s in stock

And wasn't the price drop $4k on the base?

synolimit 07-28-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2422711)
Btw, to anyone who wants to fight, you need to mention that dealers are getting $3k back on their '13s in stock

And wasn't the price drop $4k on the base?

How do I fight better?


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