you americans can be really happy about prices

snmalone · 02-25-2009, 01:27 AM

I just wanted to say that you can be really happy about how cheap the z is beeing offered to you in the states. just to compare, a z base model with no package will be 60.000usd here in austria. thats twice as much as you pay. i really hate it, the state makes us pay taxes like crazy.

we are

JunoonX · 02-25-2009, 03:35 AM

I was in Portugal just last week and saw a 350z fully loaded for 79k Euros (about 100k USD), so its nothing to do with the North American market, rather, something clearly specific to the Euro region. Just be glad you're not in Spain/Portugal, or you'd really be cursing out to the Nissan regional distros

snmalone · 02-25-2009, 03:44 AM

yeah its only because european countries apply monster taxes when it comes to sportscars and horsepower. if you take alle the taxes away it would be as cheap as in the states.

JunoonX · 02-25-2009, 03:47 AM

There you go. I think getting a European sports car is considerably cheaper than it is buying an import. I could tell the differences when walking past the Alfa Romeo, BMW, Porsche dealerships in town, with their price tags quite similar to the American counterparts.
Good luck to you in finding a good one. If it still doesn't work, did you query what it would take to import directly from Japan/US ?

kdo2milger · 02-25-2009, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snmalone

I just wanted to say that you can be really happy about how cheap the z is beeing offered to you in the states. just to compare, a z base model with no package will be 60.000usd here in austria. thats twice as much as you pay. i really hate it, the states makes us pay taxes like crazy.

we are

ouch man!!!

it would be cheaper to buy one from the states and have it shipped to austria...30 grand for the z and another 5 grand for shipping...

snmalone · 02-25-2009, 06:37 AM

importing is an option, but then again if i import a car from a foreign country i have to pay customs duty, 20% income tax, 14 % other taxes and so on and so on, its horrible. it really pisses me off that we have to pay so much money for a decent car here. nevertheless i want the z!

edit: just saw i wrote the states makes us pay taxes like crazy, it should be the state (our state)...

kdo2milger · 02-25-2009, 06:58 AM

Too bad, I guess nissan doesnt have a production plant in austria.

If they did you guys would be set.

!xoible · 02-25-2009, 10:39 AM

that's why arnold moved here from austria

CrownR426 · 02-25-2009, 10:40 AM

Honestly...
We're not lucky or anything.
It's all about money currency.
The dollar is weak thanks to our country's great choices.
+ being in recession ain't helping us out much.
Case in point, same ****.

arcticreaver · 02-25-2009, 01:00 PM

yeah we are in a recession. nothing good about that....

nogoodname · 02-25-2009, 01:01 PM

and to think i was being ripped off.....lol

FairmanZ · 02-25-2009, 01:24 PM

Yeah the US prices are very affordable compared to the rest of the world. Especially if you consider the JDM prices to be a base line.

In Japan the Base model goes for 3935800 Yen, or about $40K. A loaded Touring + Sport Model runs 4930700 Yen, or about $50K USD.

Car prices in certain countries, like Australia, have always been much higher than the US, no matter what the make.

nogoodname · 02-25-2009, 01:36 PM

is it really true, if i convert the CDN starting price, it will be lower than the USD starting price...lol

that's what one article said.....lol

so 39998 CDN for a 6MT base model is........................... be right back.....

EDIT: it would be 31,920.16 USD

epod86 · 02-25-2009, 07:50 PM

I'm pretty sure the worst country to own a car in is Singapore. If I remember correctly, goes something like this:

-200% sales tax, so a car cost 3X by default

-Engine tax based on displacement, I never knew the amount, but the company leased Toyota Odyssey was 1.6L and added at least 50% of original price. I might have also been dependent on car size/style.

-Certificate of ownership, these control the number of cars on the road. Essentially, one old car off, one new car on. these are auctioned by the government every month, and supply/demand controls the price. Normally 33% as a starting price, but you normally tell the salesmen what your cap is based on how quick you want the car.

-Sales fees. Because of all the regulation crap, no one ever guys their own car, the have the salesman take car of all the stuff I've mentioned. I think they use to take like 6% of the final price, good chunk of change.

Yah, my family sold a <6 month Jag S, a <16 month Diesel Chrysler Town&Country, and my dad's kit Shelby Cobra replica, and bought a 4d Renault Cleo with the money. Oh, and the cars were sold at British pound values. The company took care of the Odyssey. We don't have anyone from Singapore reading, do we?

snmalone · 02-26-2009, 01:59 AM

that sounds horrible..extreme taxes in singapore. in the end you can do nothing against it but accept the fact that you have to pay more for the same thing. at least we have very nice winding roads here in austria..

02-25-2009, 01:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
snmalone Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: austria Posts: 8 Drives: bmw e92 Rep Power: 16	you americans can be really happy about prices I just wanted to say that you can be really happy about how cheap the z is beeing offered to you in the states. just to compare, a z base model with no package will be 60.000usd here in austria. thats twice as much as you pay. i really hate it, the state makes us pay taxes like crazy. we are Last edited by snmalone; 02-25-2009 at 06:37 AM.

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CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 847	Honestly... We're not lucky or anything. It's all about money currency. The dollar is weak thanks to our country's great choices. + being in recession ain't helping us out much. Case in point, same ****. __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

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nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1764	is it really true, if i convert the CDN starting price, it will be lower than the USD starting price...lol that's what one article said.....lol so 39998 CDN for a 6MT base model is........................... be right back..... EDIT: it would be 31,920.16 USD Last edited by nogoodname; 02-25-2009 at 01:38 PM.

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02-25-2009, 03:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
JunoonX Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 79 Drives: 350z sold,370z sold Rep Power: 16	I was in Portugal just last week and saw a 350z fully loaded for 79k Euros (about 100k USD), so its nothing to do with the North American market, rather, something clearly specific to the Euro region. Just be glad you're not in Spain/Portugal, or you'd really be cursing out to the Nissan regional distros

02-25-2009, 03:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
snmalone Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: austria Posts: 8 Drives: bmw e92 Rep Power: 16	yeah its only because european countries apply monster taxes when it comes to sportscars and horsepower. if you take alle the taxes away it would be as cheap as in the states.

02-25-2009, 03:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
JunoonX Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 79 Drives: 350z sold,370z sold Rep Power: 16	There you go. I think getting a European sports car is considerably cheaper than it is buying an import. I could tell the differences when walking past the Alfa Romeo, BMW, Porsche dealerships in town, with their price tags quite similar to the American counterparts. Good luck to you in finding a good one. If it still doesn't work, did you query what it would take to import directly from Japan/US ?

02-25-2009, 06:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
snmalone Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: austria Posts: 8 Drives: bmw e92 Rep Power: 16	importing is an option, but then again if i import a car from a foreign country i have to pay customs duty, 20% income tax, 14 % other taxes and so on and so on, its horrible. it really pisses me off that we have to pay so much money for a decent car here. nevertheless i want the z! edit: just saw i wrote the states makes us pay taxes like crazy, it should be the state (our state)...

02-25-2009, 06:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 59	Too bad, I guess nissan doesnt have a production plant in austria. If they did you guys would be set.

02-25-2009, 10:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
!xoible Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: west Posts: 245 Drives: some car Rep Power: 185	that's why arnold moved here from austria

02-25-2009, 01:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
arcticreaver Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 769 Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG Rep Power: 924	yeah we are in a recession. nothing good about that....

02-25-2009, 01:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1764	and to think i was being ripped off.....lol

02-25-2009, 01:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
FairmanZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paradise Posts: 133 Drives: Z34 future owner Rep Power: 16	Yeah the US prices are very affordable compared to the rest of the world. Especially if you consider the JDM prices to be a base line. In Japan the Base model goes for 3935800 Yen, or about $40K. A loaded Touring + Sport Model runs 4930700 Yen, or about $50K USD. Car prices in certain countries, like Australia, have always been much higher than the US, no matter what the make.

02-25-2009, 07:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
epod86 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 229 Drives: 06 Mustang GT BK M5 Rep Power: 241	I'm pretty sure the worst country to own a car in is Singapore. If I remember correctly, goes something like this: -200% sales tax, so a car cost 3X by default -Engine tax based on displacement, I never knew the amount, but the company leased Toyota Odyssey was 1.6L and added at least 50% of original price. I might have also been dependent on car size/style. -Certificate of ownership, these control the number of cars on the road. Essentially, one old car off, one new car on. these are auctioned by the government every month, and supply/demand controls the price. Normally 33% as a starting price, but you normally tell the salesmen what your cap is based on how quick you want the car. -Sales fees. Because of all the regulation crap, no one ever guys their own car, the have the salesman take car of all the stuff I've mentioned. I think they use to take like 6% of the final price, good chunk of change. Yah, my family sold a <6 month Jag S, a <16 month Diesel Chrysler Town&Country, and my dad's kit Shelby Cobra replica, and bought a 4d Renault Cleo with the money. Oh, and the cars were sold at British pound values. The company took care of the Odyssey. We don't have anyone from Singapore reading, do we?

02-26-2009, 01:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
snmalone Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: austria Posts: 8 Drives: bmw e92 Rep Power: 16	that sounds horrible..extreme taxes in singapore. in the end you can do nothing against it but accept the fact that you have to pay more for the same thing. at least we have very nice winding roads here in austria..