Dealers Lying Or Has Nissan Put A Hold On Production

Bonzo · 10-17-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RunNgun

So what did you negotiate the price to?

Invoice, no matter what it was for 2012. As it turns out, it's the same as the later 2011's. My car with the Sport Package, Kick Plates and Front Floor Mats MSRP's for $36,865. I'm paying $34,310, plus tax and fees etc. I didn't feel the need to squeeze them down for a few hundred dollars less. I consider invoice a good price.

Streetlife · 10-17-2011, 04:06 PM

Congratulations Bonzo! That's good news to me as i now know that the 2012's have started to ship. I was told by my salesman he would be calling me with the VIN sometime in November, i ordered mine on 9/2/2011.

SkiDoggAC · 10-17-2011, 04:55 PM

After lurking here for the past 2 years I finally ordered my 2012 370z! Dealer gave me invoice pricing on a Base + Sport. After Idaho Sales tax and all fee's I payed $35,005.00 USD. Picked up 3.6% financing from a local credit union. Expecting delivery some time between January and Early March. Not in a huge hurry... North Idaho gets a lot of snow from December - March. Moving from a 1990 Honda Accord to a 2012 Z.... lol.

onzedge · 10-18-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SkiDoggAC

After lurking here for the past 2 years I finally ordered my 2012 370z! Dealer gave me invoice pricing on a Base + Sport. After Idaho Sales tax and all fee's I payed $35,005.00 USD. Picked up 3.6% financing from a local credit union. Expecting delivery some time between January and Early March. Not in a huge hurry... North Idaho gets a lot of snow from December - March. Moving from a 1990 Honda Accord to a 2012 Z.... lol.

370Zsteve · 10-18-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SkiDoggAC

After lurking here for the past 2 years I finally ordered my 2012 370z! Dealer gave me invoice pricing on a Base + Sport. After Idaho Sales tax and all fee's I payed $35,005.00 USD. Picked up 3.6% financing from a local credit union. Expecting delivery some time between January and Early March. Not in a huge hurry... North Idaho gets a lot of snow from December - March. Moving from a 1990 Honda Accord to a 2012 Z.... lol.

FuszNissan · 10-25-2011, 03:19 PM

Vin is issued when the car is built. Not when it reaches port.

Streetlife · 10-25-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Vin is issued when the car is built. Not when it reaches port.

That's what i was thinking too, made sense, a better way to track a particular order, and of course to identify the vehicle at the factory in Japan before it's shipped.

SkiDoggAC · 10-25-2011, 05:07 PM

Dealer told me I wouldn't get a VIN till end of November first of December.

Nixlimited · 10-25-2011, 06:10 PM

Not sure when I will get my VIN either.

Bonzo · 10-26-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ozver3

Not sure if this is the right thread but I'll post it here anyway.

Does this mean my order went through? I do have the order number but took it out of the picture.

Odd. Your sheet lists a Marketing Assessment Fee, and it's listed as TBD. My sheet has no such line item listed. I wonder what that is.

Mine looks a lot like yours, but mine is completely filled in with the VIN#, build date, and estimated delivery etc. It's totally filled in.

To answer your question, I would guess the least it means is that your dealer has placed the order. I'm also guessing that until Nissan actually picks up th eorder, there won't be an order number. Purely guessing, I don't know.

Bonzo · 10-27-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ozver3

According to my sales guy, he will only charge me invoice. He showed me a similar order and we already talked about the pricing. He says if the destination charge doesn't change and/or the MSRP then what he quoted me will be the same. He said it never does happen but he is obliged to tell me beforehand.

Since it's early in the production year I'd guess Nissan will be holding their MSRP and delivery charge. As on 2011's the price held until about mid-year and then they took it up about $500. I'm just wondering what that new line item TBD charge is. No big deal about it, just curious. Like it's Nissan saying, oh yeah the MSRP didn't change this year, but now there is some $500 hidden fee they didn't charge last year. You know, accounting tricks. But I don't know, that's why I'm wondering. It's not on my form, so we'll see what a happens. I too have my deal in writing that I pay invoice.

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I thought VIN# will only be filled out once they actually build the car. I was told by the sales guy that the car will be in production late November and is expected to arrive early January. The page does say "ETA: Month of 01/12".

Like I said, my form is totally filled out with VIN# and everything. If you read above to my previous posts on this thread and the other recent ones about ordering cars, you'll see that my car was built on September 25th 2011, has a VIN# in the 500's, and is scheduled for delivery November 18th. The dealer called me with the VIN# on October 10th, or about 2 weeks after it was built. I'm not sure if he waited to tell me, or if he called me right when he got it.

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Hope you're right. I know my sales guy would soon call me about leaving the deposit. But he did say that he wont ask for the deposit unless the order goes through. He also said that I should hear something by first Monday of November since that's when they order their stuff but I received this email yesterday so I am not sure if the order was accepted or not.

Yep, allocations are given out to dealers at the first of each month, so that's what he's talking about. He's being fairly honest with you and the not taking your deposit shows it. What you need to talk to him about is what I'm calling the "back door" ordering method, where he doesn't have to wait for his allocation. Only 1 of the 10+ dealers here in Southwest Ohio even knew this method even existed, and it's how I got my car on actual order when I did, otherwise I'd still be waiting. Tell him to read deep in the ordering information. My dealer told me it's like 20 pages deep, but is reserved for dealers to do when they have a 100% bought car, a for sure sale. According to him, it's only something they can do once a month, with 1 car. They have to contact Nissan Distribution U.S.A. direct via phone, talk to them, then fill out some sort of paperwork, then FAX it in to NDUSA. From there they need to make phone contact again and confirm everything. A few days after his final correspondence with them, he went in the Nissan computer system and my order was in the official system, locked in with my name associated with the order. What I can tell you for sure is this is what went down with my dealer because I saw it happen. I'm not sure the part about 1 car per month is totally accurate (or true), but the rest of it actually happened so I know it can work. My dealer has yet to actually get a Nissan allocation for a 2012, but my car is to be delivered in about 3 weeks. So without this method I'd still be waiting to even order it.

Hope this helps.

Cheers --- Bonzo

Bonzo · 10-28-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ozver3

This probably what he was talking about. According to the email, he did send an e-mail to the Distribution Center to get my order in. If the email that he was talking about was the same email that he showed me then it did say that it is for sure sale. FuszNissan said that my order did go through if I have the Order ID # so that means he did use the "back door" that you're talking about because he did mention that normally they order it first Monday of the month. Having said that, it would've been two weeks from now before he can order the vehicle. We'll see...

Well it all sounds like it's moving ahead for you, and that's awesome.

Great things come to those who wait.

Cheers ---- Bonzo

FuszNissan · 10-26-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ozver3

@FuszNissan

I do have the order number. I just took it out of the picture.

Okay.

If you have an Order ID number then you are good to go!

FuszNissan · 10-26-2011, 07:06 PM

Seeing that the Order ID# is blank in the upper left hand corner; I am going to have to say no.

Razzo · 10-26-2011, 09:22 PM

My order sheet looks like that as well. Commit date was September 7. Production Month: 10/11 and ETA: Month of 12/11. So it looks like they build roughly a month after ordered? and it takes roughly two months from them building it to it being at the dealer?

10-25-2011, 03:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	Vin is issued when the car is built. Not when it reaches port. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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Nixlimited A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,235 Drives: 15 GT-R / 11 Prius Rep Power: 26	Not sure when I will get my VIN either. __________________ Car Sold! Pleasure being a part of the Z community. New ride: 2015 GT-R - 647 WHP / 641 WTQ (e85) & 543 WHP / 519 WTQ (91)

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FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	Seeing that the Order ID# is blank in the upper left hand corner; I am going to have to say no. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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10-17-2011, 04:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Streetlife Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 467 Drives: 2012 370z Mont/sport Rep Power: 17	Congratulations Bonzo! That's good news to me as i now know that the 2012's have started to ship. I was told by my salesman he would be calling me with the VIN sometime in November, i ordered mine on 9/2/2011.

10-17-2011, 04:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
SkiDoggAC Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: idaho Posts: 40 Drives: 2012 base + sport Rep Power: 14	After lurking here for the past 2 years I finally ordered my 2012 370z! Dealer gave me invoice pricing on a Base + Sport. After Idaho Sales tax and all fee's I payed $35,005.00 USD. Picked up 3.6% financing from a local credit union. Expecting delivery some time between January and Early March. Not in a huge hurry... North Idaho gets a lot of snow from December - March. Moving from a 1990 Honda Accord to a 2012 Z.... lol.

10-25-2011, 05:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
SkiDoggAC Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: idaho Posts: 40 Drives: 2012 base + sport Rep Power: 14	Dealer told me I wouldn't get a VIN till end of November first of December.

10-26-2011, 09:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
Razzo Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: So Cal Posts: 22 Drives: 2012 370Z PW 7AT Rep Power: 14	My order sheet looks like that as well. Commit date was September 7. Production Month: 10/11 and ETA: Month of 12/11. So it looks like they build roughly a month after ordered? and it takes roughly two months from them building it to it being at the dealer?