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Old 03-11-2011, 11:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i dont see why you are being so self righteous about this.. i saw your thread in the off topic about
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thats pretty stupid and uncalled for to judge someones moral character based on that ....here is why... i havent read one single post with someone saying who cares about the people i just want my car... everyone is horrified at whats going on and everyones hearts goes out to them... but the fact is this is a car forum and the car in question is affected... it is a valid topic to discuss and it can be done respectfully without taking away one ounce of compassion for what everyone is watching...

no one is equating the loss of life to a loss of a car...but the truth is this is a huge loss for japan ecomically and this thread is just showing how the tragedy has side effects that reach beyond the images we see on TV



so i would stop jumping in on here condemning every single post for asking or bringing up the subject..

it would be one thing if some one went to the red cross site or something complaining about not getting their car...but what do you expect to be discussed on here?... its true there will be some type of negative fall out from this for customers... buying a car is a big deal and im sure people have questions and concerns and i dont see why their shouldnt be a place where people can talk about it..
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Old 03-12-2011, 01:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i dont see why you are being so self righteous about this.. i saw your thread in the off topic about

it was closed before i could reply

thats pretty stupid and uncalled for to judge someones moral character based on that ....here is why... i havent read one single post with someone saying who cares about the people i just want my car... everyone is horrified at whats going on and everyones hearts goes out to them... but the fact is this is a car forum and the car in question is affected... it is a valid topic to discuss and it can be done respectfully without taking away one ounce of compassion for what everyone is watching...

no one is equating the loss of life to a loss of a car...but the truth is this is a huge loss for japan ecomically and this thread is just showing how the tragedy has side effects that reach beyond the images we see on TV



so i would stop jumping in on here condemning every single post for asking or bringing up the subject..

it would be one thing if some one went to the red cross site or something complaining about not getting their car...but what do you expect to be discussed on here?... its true there will be some type of negative fall out from this for customers... buying a car is a big deal and im sure people have questions and concerns and i dont see why their shouldnt be a place where people can talk about it..
Sorry for being indelicate, but frankly I'm disgusted that anyone would care more about their car parts or cars than the toll on human life.

And yeah, when that's the issue someone feels the need to post about, it's pretty clear what their number one concern is. Expressing my disgust without singling out anyone is hardly self-righteous, and my attack on their "moral character" is probably spot-on.

Please.

The fact that this is a car forum is utterly irrelevant. Why does that matter?

We're not even talking about the actual loss of their property either -- merely the inconvenince of a delay in receiving them due to a freaking disaster!

I don't blame you for closing my thread -- that's fine -- but I stand by my view and my statements.

If someone who was more concerned about property over life was offended -- GOOD. They are welcome to hate me, but should reflect upon their self-centered concerns. They can repent by donating 10 bucks to the red cross. I can endure the hate and the $10 will help.
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The discussion of the impact on delivery of 370Zs from Japan because of the earthquake is relevant to this forum. There are also threads specifically about the disaster on here as well. I'm disappointed to see others be critical of another for a discussion topic related to this subject. If you or anyone else believes for a second that anyone cares more about a car than a person then that is sad. There are many venues to discuss the disaster and its human impact. This forum is for discussion largely about 370Zs. Oh, and by the way before anyone jumps all over me. My Mother's side of the family lives in Mutsu, Japan Ground Zero for the Earthquake/Tsunami.
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The discussion of the impact on delivery of 370Zs from Japan because of the earthquake is relevant to this forum. There are also threads specifically about the disaster on here as well. I'm disappointed to see others be critical of another for a discussion topic related to this subject. If you or anyone else believes for a second that anyone cares more about a car than a person then that is sad. There are many venues to discuss the disaster and its human impact. This forum is for discussion largely about 370Zs. Oh, and by the way before anyone jumps all over me. My Mother's side of the family lives in Mutsu, Japan Ground Zero for the Earthquake/Tsunami.
Let me put it this way. We can broadly differentiate betwen three categories of response to this disaster by folks here:

(1) Nothing. Whatever they are thinking or feeling is unknown.

(2) Took the time and effort to make a post expressing thier hopes and prayers for a bunch of strangers.

(3) Took the time and effort to express their fears about the possiblity of not getting their car or car parts on time as a result of the disaster.

Do I know if down deep the people in any of those categories really cares about the value of human life? No. But I can respond to what I see.

I thanked those who expressed concern and admonished those who didn't.

What would you do if someone attending a funeral made one comment only: That having to show up for the funeral totally ruined their plans for the day?

Would you assume inside they must be grieving or be utterly apalled by their self-centered comments?

Whatever, man.

Like I said if anyone feels compassion for the people of Japan, they can donate to red cross -- actions are more important than words anyway.

I sincerely hope your family is safe and well.
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Let me put it this way. We can broadly differentiate betwen three categories of response to this disaster by folks here:

(1) Nothing. Whatever they are thinking or feeling is unknown.

(2) Took the time and effort to make a post expressing thier hopes and prayers for a bunch of strangers.

(3) Took the time and effort to express their fears about the possiblity of not getting their car or car parts on time as a result of the disaster.

Do I know if down deep the people in any of those categories really cares about the value of human life? No. But I can respond to what I see.

I thanked those who expressed concern and admonished those who didn't.

What would you do if someone attending a funeral made one comment only: That having to show up for the funeral totally ruined their plans for the day?

Would you assume inside they must be grieving or be utterly apalled by their self-centered comments?

Whatever, man.

Like I said if anyone feels compassion for the people of Japan, they can donate to red cross -- actions are more important than words anyway.

I sincerely hope your family is safe and well.
Would it make you feel better if someone were to post a statement before their question on the delay of their car/part as such?

"First of all, I am saddened by the events in Japan and I hope the country and people are doing ok, but I have a question if these events might inpact the delivery of my [car/part]..." ?

Just because someone is asking about the delay of their car/part does not mean they are insensitive. Now if they made a comment like "Fvck! This damn earthquake is going to delay the delivery of my car/part! Just my luck!!!"

Now that would be another story...

I had a similar concern. I was about to order a Nismo rear bumper. I was wondering if this might impact my order so I called my dealer to ask. Luckily for me it did not as the parts were in the US already. So I was able to place my order. Does this mean I care more about my car than the lives of tens of thousands of people? NO. I care very much and I hope things improve over there and am saddened by their loss.
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The discussion of the impact on delivery of 370Zs from Japan because of the earthquake is relevant to this forum. There are also threads specifically about the disaster on here as well. I'm disappointed to see others be critical of another for a discussion topic related to this subject. If you or anyone else believes for a second that anyone cares more about a car than a person then that is sad. There are many venues to discuss the disaster and its human impact. This forum is for discussion largely about 370Zs. Oh, and by the way before anyone jumps all over me. My Mother's side of the family lives in Mutsu, Japan Ground Zero for the Earthquake/Tsunami.
I'm disappointed that you agree with some one inquiring about their car. There has been more than one person. Posting a question about, "Will, or when will I get my car"? The earth quake isn't 24 hours old! Those who ask such a question in that short time frame. They have no concern about the loss of life or the suffering! "They are only concerned about their car"!
Yes this is a car forum. "But to ask that question now, is totally inappropriate"! Waiting a few days, a week, and then ask!
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I'm disappointed that you agree with some one inquiring about their car. There has been more than one person. Posting a question about, "Will, or when will I get my car"? The earth quake isn't 24 hours old! Those who ask such a question in that short time frame. They have no concern about the loss of life or the suffering! "They are only concerned about their car"!
Yes this is a car forum. "But to ask that question now, is totally inappropriate"! Waiting a few days, a week, and then ask!

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I'm disappointed that you agree with some one inquiring about their car. There has been more than one person. Posting a question about, "Will, or when will I get my car"? The earth quake isn't 24 hours old! Those who ask such a question in that short time frame. They have no concern about the loss of life or the suffering! "They are only concerned about their car"!
Yes this is a car forum. "But to ask that question now, is totally inappropriate"! Waiting a few days, a week, and then ask!
It was a question posted on a forum that is titled the370z.com!! If you don't agree with it that is fine. Just don't pass judgement on someone else because you have a different opinion about whether they are concerned about the Japanese or the exact amount of hours/days/weeks you believe it is appropriate to wait before YOU believe it is okay to post a question.

If you are disappointed you can start a thread and title it, "I can't believe anyone is interested in their 370Z on a forum with the same name because they obviously don't care about the Japanese who are suffering".
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Likewise there are bigger things to worry about than calling out people who call out people on a forum.

Touché!
Hahaha, I cannot believe I didn't see that coming. Definitely touché lol.
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It was a question posted on a forum that is titled the370z.com!! If you don't agree with it that is fine. Just don't pass judgement on someone else because you have a different opinion about whether they are concerned about the Japanese or the exact amount of hours/days/weeks you believe it is appropriate to wait before YOU believe it is okay to post a question.

If you are disappointed you can start a thread and title it, "I can't believe anyone is interested in their 370Z on a forum with the same name because they obviously don't care about the Japanese who are suffering".
That won't be necessary.
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Nagoya is considerably south of Tokyo (my Mom's family is near there), and there doesn't seem to be any issues that far south.
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Yes, but you don't need to make it your personal mission to call them out because it is honestly pointless. Like I said, even if someone makes a comment on whether their car or parts will be affected by the devastation in Japan, that does not mean they are taking the human tragedy lightly either.

Is it too soon to start worrying about parts in the midst of the disaster? Yes, but there are bigger things to worry about than calling people out on forums in my opinion.
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Yes, but you don't need to make it your personal mission to call them out because it is honestly pointless. Like I said, even if someone makes a comment on whether their car or parts will be affected by the devastation in Japan, that does not mean they are taking the human tragedy lightly either.

Is it too soon to start worrying about parts in the midst of the disaster? Yes, but there are bigger things to worry about than calling people out on forums in my opinion.
Likewise there are bigger things to worry about than calling out people who call out people on a forum.

Touché!
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