NON-refundable deposit for ordering a bad idea?

scruffydog · 03-19-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by danny@FontanaNissan

If you are not happy with any of the dealers around your area, call me..

I just finalized a deal with one of the forum member came from San Jose (Bay Area). Flew down here and we pick him up at the airport. Should be heading out of our dealership in about 15 - 20 minutes.

Thanks for letting me know Danny. I definitely will do if my deal right now with my dealership falls through. They're ordering me a car and it's suppose to come in April. I've flew down to So cal to pick up my Lexus before so I have no problem doing so. Thanks again!

NYBladeZ · 03-11-2010, 01:48 PM

If there's something wrong with it you'll get your $ back, but if you back out of the deal when the car arrives then they won't refund you. So think real hard and be sure you want this.

FuszNissan · 03-11-2010, 01:57 PM

Refundable and Non-Refundable.
It is basically up to the Owner of the Dealership how he would like to conduct business. By Law I don't believe you can legally hold someone's deposit. With no goods exchanged I don's see it standing in Small Claims Court. I personally like to see deposits to show commitment and interest levels of the Customer, but I will never take money that doesn't belong to me. Hope that helps.

xTIMMYxCOREx · 03-19-2010, 02:11 PM

I have yet to find a dealer in the northeast who will place a special order without a non refundable deposit. Is this the norm around here?

tsolin01 · 03-19-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xTIMMYxCOREx

I have yet to find a dealer in the northeast who will place a special order without a non refundable deposit. Is this the norm around here?

Not sure about MA, but when I lived in NYC I was able to order a G35 twice with refundable deposits. I don't think that should have changed in the last few years. The first time I ordered, I even backed out when the car arrived because I realized the financing would be too expensive for me. They did end up refunding me my deposit.

Just need to find a dealership/sales person that's willing to deal.

Daishi · 03-19-2010, 05:29 PM

most dealerships will require a small deposit to place the order but they cant hold your money anyway even if you do back out.. they are asking for a non refundable deposit just to see how serious you are about the car. Even if you gave them your money and decided not to do it they have to give it back. Its illigal for them to hold your money like that.

Ry244 · 04-10-2010, 08:54 PM

I ordered mine today. Well, it will be ordered Monday. I had the dealer tell me the same thing. If they had to order it, it would be a non refundable deposit. So I just said unacceptable and went to shake the salesman's hand goodbye and he said "wait, let me ask again". So he went behind the wall again, (to count to 100) and then came back and said, ok we'll do it. Then after talking some more with him, he admitted that non refundable deposits are illegal!! So I looked at him like he was a leper and said "so what the hell was that show all about". These guys will try anything. If it makes you uncomfortable, walk out! They will chase you down. If you have been fair with negotiating a price then they should be fair to you. Anything can happen in life from the time you order until the time it arrives. You ALWAYS want to be able to get your deposit back. If you don't take ownership, they still have a car and your out your deposit.

Autumn · 04-10-2010, 11:25 PM

I am in NY. I just placed a special order and my dealership said they don't take deposits.

Ry244 · 04-11-2010, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

I am in NY. I just placed a special order and my dealership said they don't take deposits.

What part of NY?

Autumn · 04-11-2010, 09:50 AM

What part of NY? Buffalo

o0javi0o · 04-12-2010, 10:39 PM

That will depend from dealer to dealer.
1K-2K is too much, and for the worst, non refundable. and for the issue with scruffydog,, c'mon, 5K??? thats crazy....

Do research in your area, pick up the phone, negotiate by email, if you got a good deal, print the conversation. Do research. 500 is reasonable if its refundable.

hopsolo · 04-13-2010, 08:26 AM

The Dealer I ordered from in Sterling, VA asked for a $1,000 non-refundable.

03-11-2010, 01:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 22	If there's something wrong with it you'll get your $ back, but if you back out of the deal when the car arrives then they won't refund you. So think real hard and be sure you want this. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

03-11-2010, 01:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 544	Refundable and Non-Refundable. It is basically up to the Owner of the Dealership how he would like to conduct business. By Law I don't believe you can legally hold someone's deposit. With no goods exchanged I don's see it standing in Small Claims Court. I personally like to see deposits to show commitment and interest levels of the Customer, but I will never take money that doesn't belong to me. Hope that helps. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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Ry244 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New York Posts: 26 Drives: none Rep Power: 17	I ordered mine today. Well, it will be ordered Monday. I had the dealer tell me the same thing. If they had to order it, it would be a non refundable deposit. So I just said unacceptable and went to shake the salesman's hand goodbye and he said "wait, let me ask again". So he went behind the wall again, (to count to 100) and then came back and said, ok we'll do it. Then after talking some more with him, he admitted that non refundable deposits are illegal!! So I looked at him like he was a leper and said "so what the hell was that show all about". These guys will try anything. If it makes you uncomfortable, walk out! They will chase you down. If you have been fair with negotiating a price then they should be fair to you. Anything can happen in life from the time you order until the time it arrives. You ALWAYS want to be able to get your deposit back. If you don't take ownership, they still have a car and your out your deposit.

04-10-2010, 11:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
Autumn Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northeast Posts: 20 Drives: 98 Dodge Rep Power: 18	I am in NY. I just placed a special order and my dealership said they don't take deposits.

04-11-2010, 09:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
Autumn Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northeast Posts: 20 Drives: 98 Dodge Rep Power: 18	What part of NY? Buffalo

04-12-2010, 10:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
o0javi0o Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 458 Drives: '15 ///M3 6MT Rep Power: 18	That will depend from dealer to dealer. 1K-2K is too much, and for the worst, non refundable. and for the issue with scruffydog,, c'mon, 5K??? thats crazy.... Do research in your area, pick up the phone, negotiate by email, if you got a good deal, print the conversation. Do research. 500 is reasonable if its refundable.

04-13-2010, 08:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
hopsolo Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NOVA Posts: 3 Drives: 10 370ZTS PW M6 Rep Power: 17	The Dealer I ordered from in Sterling, VA asked for a $1,000 non-refundable.