VIN JN1AZ44E09M402164 beware
 

This was the VIN on the Black base with Sport Package that I was supposed to take delivery of last week from Tischer Nissan in Laurel, MD. Upon inspection the passenger side rear quarter panel had a significant number of paint defects, thru to the clearcoat...and not small spots either. Someone had apparently tried to wetsand it or something but it looked ridiculous. Bunch of gray marks on a black car.

Anyway, I rejected the car, regardless of how good they could make it look, due to diminished value and potential long term clearcoat failure. Figured I'd post the VIN to try and protect anyone trying to buy it... JN1AZ44E09M402164.


Update as of 4.29.09

VIN: JN1AZ44E49M401275 : This car was crashed by one of our forum member.. It was totaled. Then, we saw the car pop up on ebay for sale. With the modern technology, I'm sure someone WILL fix this car and try to sell it on the market (since it has only 315 miles and interior is intact) . So, be careful buying a slightly used Chicane Yellow. Check the VIN.

VIN: JN1AZ44E39M401249 Check out the thread here: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...249-aware.html. Not a huge issue. A fellow forum member is just looking out for a potential buyer. Not sure if the power windows module or any other electrical items by the door were affected.

ADDED by AK370Z

Good man

Thanks for the info!!!

You get a rep point from me.

I wonder what happened... Is it just a blemish or accident related?

probably damaged in transit to dealer or port and they tried to fix it. saw a white GTR with touch up paint on it someone as the port halfassed tried to cover up

I wonder if that was the one they had over @ Sheehy Nissan in Waldorf? Did you have your dealer locate it for you? 'cause that one was the only black base / w sport that I saw around, and now it is gone from their inventory! I was going to buy it next week, (if it was still around). Wondering if it is the same car you are talking about?

I want to know, just in case it shows back up on their lot, so thanks for posting the VIN.

Much appreciated. That is exactly what I am looking for and no dealer can seem to find one. It would be just my luck to buy this one and never notice the damage.

Same here!:tiphat:

Well I'm a girl (:D ) but thanks!

They said they managed to find one that wasn't allocated yet. My understanding was that it was still at one of the dock ports and hadn't been assigned to a dealership yet. I believe they were trying to get me the one in Waldorf as well but that was sold....but definitely compare the VIN if you end up finding one somewhere.

I did pick up my new baby last night from VOB. Decided on yellow and although every cop in a 20 mile radius can spot me coming, I love it! VOB was great to work with and I highly recommend Danni Williams...tell her the girl with the yellow one sent ya :)

Good to see a girl who appreciates the new 370Z. Why not make your own thread in the "new 370Z owner" section with pictures of your Chicane Yellow 370Z. We are glad to have you here. :hello:

Thanks!...Never been a part of the Z world before so it's nice to be here. When I get some better pics I'll post in the owner section.

Good post.

nice..whats the spec you ordered? also did you put any down prior to ordering?

rep for ya gurrlll :hello:

Thanks! I've never been on a forum with rep points before...that's cooool.

I originally ordered a Black base with sport package and some of the random crap like floormats, splash guards, illuminate kick plates, trunk mat. I autox so I didn't want the touring model. I ended up with a yellow with sport package, floormats, splash guards...and the trunk mat (I think). They didn't have any with the kick plates but I can always add that later I suppose if I want to.

I did put down $500 on the defective one...and they did give it back to me without any issue. You would've heard about it on the news if they hadn't, lol :)

some one tell me how to give rep points... i dont want to sound prejudist but with all the things this girl was pointing out about the car i could have bet my life that this was an older guy... if i could I would give you +2 due to i never seen a girl do this much research on a vehicle before she bought it. Glad to see that the lady Zs are steping up and telling the dealers that they deserve the same respect as a stereotypical male buyer:bowrofl:.. goo girl:driving:

^^ click on the scale on her post, that's how it's done





spoolio, Thanks for the heads up to the 370z ppl for catching that and pointing it out. It's good that you showed them and bailed out from that ridiculous scuffed up Z deal.... you go GF !!!!!....lol

As noogood said, you can click on the http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...reputation.gif icon and give positive or negetive rep points.

THanks

This is the type information I found useful on the NSX board. I was on the wrong end of a deal on one of the first twin turbo Mazda's. The dealer put delivery off until late in the day when the repair was less noticeable. Washed and waxed the car the next day and found repairs on both doors.

Hah! I just test drove that car not 2 weeks ago IF that! They wont stop calling me on this car! I dont think it had the damage on it when I drove it though, thats for sure - I bet some idiot test drove it and jacked it all up. Pity, really...

And, small edit - I just noticed it looks like you probably test drove this a couple weeks before me. I think they had this fixed, by now, because the car looked fine when I test drove it. On the other hand, I didnt exactly stare the exterior down, since I just wanted to take it for a spin and see how nice the rev-matching system was, along with its handling. Either way though, good post - if I go back there again and they beg me to buy it, I'll give it a REALLY good look.

when i got my G, i later found a long scratch at the bottom of the car...it was hard to see in the Garage...then when i got home and the sunlight revealed it

I used to work at the highest volume GM dealership in the US. Oh, the stories I could say.

My favorite? As I was pulling in a brand new, COMPLETELY stripped base model Venture into the detailing shop? One of the detailers closed the garage door on the roof of the van. Cleaned it off to find a dent spanning the entire width of the roof, and about 2-3 feet long with deep gouges in the paint.

They sold that van to the customers later that day without even thinking twice. I was so angry, and I couldn't do a thing about it. Worst part was, they barely had enough money for this thing, and it was their first "new" car ever. What a way to ruin it :(

^^ I would feel soooo bad for them.........but what the hell....closing the door on the van..

what happened to the roof racks??? that would be noticeable to see damaged

Oh, this thing was STRIPPED man, not a single options on it. Not even FLOOR mats! Definitely no roof racks on this thing.

The new owners were REALLY short (like, 5'6" or something) - both of them. They never even saw it, and were just so happy to get the van that they didnt even care to look. And who jumps up into the van when they pick it up, and checks out the roof? heh

Me, when go pick up a vehicle, I go over it with a fine tooth comb. Dealers love delivering cars at night in unlit areas, I prefer to say I want to pick my vehicle up around noon-ish, just for this reason...

when i picked mine up, it was in a unlit back-showroom....then when i take the car out.....it just so happened the shade from the whole building is on the lot.....

Gotta be extra careful in those situations. Bringing a flashlight and some polarized sun glasses helps a lot :)

I certainly get the flashlight, and I own polarized glasses, but I don't quite get the combination. You're looking for gradient changes in the reflection that would be from repair jobs, right? Not sure where polarization would help. Excess glare from other surfaces?

They tend to be good at picking up scratches and whatnot, particularly on darker colors. Lighter, not so much.

My mom had purchased a brand new 73' British racing green Jag XKE V12 convertible. It was delivered to the dealership, she picked it up drove it home and had no problems for two weeks until my dad drove it.

When he was out and about a guy rear ended him and the entire right rear quarter panel of the car crumbled on to the ground.

Come to find out after reports were filed and inspections done that the car had fallen of the truck during transport and they sent it to a body shop where they added more bondo than you could believe as well as a new paint job.

She was issued an entirely new Jag.

Gotcha. Have to try it on the pony. She's got two door nicks (that I know of) I could try it out on.

Something to keep in mind, a number of states (I know of it at least in TX) have 'lemon laws.' This basically protects the buyer from having to do anything to fix a new car, and protect against abuse of warranty and 'half-***' repairs. The pony had a bad fuel system vacuum check, and the law said it could only go in for 3 checks under the warranty, if the problem persisted the car had to be replaced by the dealer. So at the 3rd or 4th engine check light, look into you're local laws. This can be helpful if you're dealer/service keeps telling you the car is 'fine.'

Wow. I found a black base with sport pkg at Tischer through the web, and I was going to go see it since it is the exact car I am interested in. Good thing I saw this. Thanks!

Yeah its the one I test drove, and Im sure its this same one. Honestly it looked fine when I saw it, so I doubt its horrible now, but it might behoove someone to take a close look at it.

I'm sure it does look fine now. In fact, they called me a few days later still trying to sell it to me. I told them I had already bought one from somewhere else and I wouldn't be interested even if I hadn't. I can't be bothered with diminished value straight off the lot.

I'd be curious to see if they would admit there had been a repair if you asked them.

They did. The saleswoman who's trying to sell me one called me today and I brought it up, and she told me the whole story just like you said it.

Either way, I told her it doesnt matter, since I want one in Monterey Blue heh.

LOL...i just bought a black Z with Sport package in MD and first thing that came to mind was..Great..I probably just bought that car and missed the defects somehow. Good news is, the VINs are different and after a good detailing today, the paint is spotless.

Scared me though....

Yikes, good thing you took a good look and caught it. I was afraid of the same thing when I got my black Z and had to look it over probably four times at the dealer before even getting in to test drive it. At first, it did appear there were wierd marks on the passenger rear wheel arch, but it turned out to just be dry wax dust. Having said that, there was dry wax build up on every edge...

hehe i wonder if nissan dealerships read this board? those people are probably like "crap, we can't sell this one no more..."

good information though.

+1 rep

Doubt it - it'll sell, guarantee that...not everyone is on the370z.com :)

So, I looked at the car yesterday.

No damage, at all. No repainting done. No signs of wet sanding. I looked it over with a fine tooth comb, and I used to detail cars for a dealership. Looked at it with my polarized sunglasses (works AMAZING on black) - not a single imperfection.

I now own the most infamous car on here :-p

lol, you didn't make them cut you a deal?