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Old 12-10-2009, 03:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds like you need to find yourself a new dealer
Actually it sounds like he needs to get realistic. Dealers really hate selling cars below their true cost..Not a good business model.

There's a lot of guys who will swagger through here with (supposedly) unbelievable deals..You know about the internet always being right, Right??....Thought so.
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Some dealers actually can't go down as low as others. If they aren't high volume dealers, or if the car isn't on their lot, their hands are tied.

If you feel like you're not getting a good deal, simply go to another dealer. That dealer is either lying, or can't give you the deal you want. Either way, no use in doing business there.
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Some dealers actually can't go down as low as others. If they aren't high volume dealers, or if the car isn't on their lot, their hands are tied.

If you feel like you're not getting a good deal, simply go to another dealer. That dealer is either lying, or can't give you the deal you want. Either way, no use in doing business there.
Or ask the person that supposedly got $1,500 under invoice to put up or shut up with a hard copy of that transaction. I for one don't believe one exists.
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Or ask the person that supposedly got $1,500 under invoice to put up or shut up with a hard copy of that transaction. I for one don't believe one exists.
Have you read this forum thoroughly? There are atleast 5 threads where people have got such deals (or they claim that they have).

Replies like yours add to my frustration level. While I don't mind agreeing with you, I find it so random to believe that these 5 threads are liars or with 3000 miles or with 3 wheels. I have personally asked one of them to help me with a copy of their receipt - but these 5 people are in no way obliged to PROVE to the world that they indeed got a good deal. I'm also annoyed that no one pointed out this 3000 mile 3 wheel twist on THOSE threads? You guys just haven't gone through these posts that I am talking about. Anyway, I am not hating on you.. but at the same time don't want to make a fool of myself by paying $500 under invoice when people have paid $1500-$2400 under invoice.

@Other poster somewhere in this thread: This local dealer I talk of is actually a high volume dealer and they have 24 Z's on their lot. Don't worry about color etc. they have what I'm looking for and so do many other dealers.
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Have you read this forum thoroughly? There are atleast 5 threads where people have got such deals (or they claim that they have).

Replies like yours add to my frustration level. While I don't mind agreeing with you, I find it so random to believe that these 5 threads are liars or with 3000 miles or with 3 wheels. I have personally asked one of them to help me with a copy of their receipt - but these 5 people are in no way obliged to PROVE to the world that they indeed got a good deal. I'm also annoyed that no one pointed out this 3000 mile 3 wheel twist on THOSE threads? You guys just haven't gone through these posts that I am talking about. Anyway, I am not hating on you.. but at the same time don't want to make a fool of myself by paying $500 under invoice when people have paid $1500-$2400 under invoice.

@Other poster somewhere in this thread: This local dealer I talk of is actually a high volume dealer and they have 24 Z's on their lot. Don't worry about color etc. they have what I'm looking for and so do many other dealers.
sounds like you just don't want put in the leg work, go to another dealer, I shopped 7-8 dealers casually until I found the deal I wanted

don't cry because one dealer won't give you a deal
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sounds like you just don't want put in the leg work, go to another dealer, I shopped 7-8 dealers casually until I found the deal I wanted

don't cry because one dealer won't give you a deal
FWIW, some people don't have the luxury of shopping a lot of dealers. Some people live in rural areas. Just sayin'
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Have you read this forum thoroughly? There are atleast 5 threads where people have got such deals (or they claim that they have).

Replies like yours add to my frustration level. While I don't mind agreeing with you, I find it so random to believe that these 5 threads are liars or with 3000 miles or with 3 wheels.

Anyway, I am not hating on you.. but at the same time don't want to make a fool of myself by paying $500 under invoice when people have paid $1500-$2400 under invoice.
No one is saying they are actually lying...its just that most people tend to stretch or exaggerate what actually occurred in the transaction and then go on to "commit" to the belief to reconcile the reality they have to face inside their head. Its the old rationalization game...and there isn't one person here that hasn't done it in one thing or another in their lifetime.

As for you saying "[I] don't want to make a fool of myself by paying $500 under invoice when people have paid $1500-$2400 under invoice".....consider $500 undeer invoice a win and nothing to feel foolish about. There has never been a car in my entire life that I was able to get the dealer down to below invoice...and I have bought ten new cars in my lifetime that I can remember. Never once did I consider myself a fool because:

1. You can't thake the money with you.
2. Life has a way of evening itself out over the entire span of an average lived life.
3. There is absolutely no rule in life that says you have to always take out of life as much as you end up putting into it.

If you can get the car for $500 under invoice then just buy it and start enjoying what you want to buy.
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Actually it sounds like he needs to get realistic. Dealers really hate selling cars below their true cost..Not a good business model.

There's a lot of guys who will swagger through here with (supposedly) unbelievable deals..You know about the internet always being right, Right??....Thought so.
Invoice is not a dealer's cost. That is a marketing tactic. There is a new 2009 red Touring/Sport on eBay right now for $32,990 "buy it now" price. With 20 miles on the odo.
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