Nissan, Renault & mercedez merge?

cookz · 04-11-2012, 04:21 PM

Mercedes-Benz-Powered Nissan Z - New Sports Cars from Nissan at RoadandTrack.com

ZMan8 · 04-11-2012, 04:24 PM

yeah this was announced a little bit ago. They already said the diesel engines infiniti will be using are the mercedes ones

ZMan8 · 04-11-2012, 04:26 PM

I doubt nissan will have the Z compete with the GTR unless the Z costs 100k as well

cookz · 04-11-2012, 04:38 PM

Yeah, at the same time they are totally two different cars. they need to just release the silvia again to fill the gap they are looking at. Z still pulls a harder G than the gtr.
.96 vs .93 (just doesnt have the power to hang) z is more mechanical and sporty feeling but the designer still talks about the z not being light enough and the motor keeps growing in size...

"I much prefer smaller sports car," Nakamura revealed to Australia’s Drive. "It is the time to look at that [smaller engines]. With 370Z, we still don't know next generation will have a larger or smaller engine."

He also said that reducing the weight of Nissan’s next-generation of sports cars is a priority.

While downsizing the Z to compete with newcomers like the 2013 Scion FR-S and the 2013 Subaru BRZ may not be ideal, Nissan previously had great success with its 240SX. The vehicle was dropped from Nissan’s global lineup in the previous decade due to its engine, a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder, failing to meet stricter emissions standards.

ZMan8 · 04-11-2012, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookz

Yeah, at the same time they are totally two different cars. they need to just release the silvia again to fill the gap they are looking at. Z still pulls a harder G than the gtr.
.96 vs .93 (just doesnt have the power to hang) z is more mechanical and sporty feeling but the designer still talks about the z not being light enough and the motor keeps growing in size...

"I much prefer smaller sports car," Nakamura revealed to Australia’s Drive. "It is the time to look at that [smaller engines]. With 370Z, we still don't know next generation will have a larger or smaller engine."

He also said that reducing the weight of Nissan’s next-generation of sports cars is a priority.

While downsizing the Z to compete with newcomers like the 2013 Scion FR-S and the 2013 Subaru BRZ may not be ideal, Nissan previously had great success with its 240SX. The vehicle was dropped from Nissan’s global lineup in the previous decade due to its engine, a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder, failing to meet stricter emissions standards.

I have a solution to everything:

Nissan should release a 240sx along the lines of the FR-S/BRZ. Put a 2.4l N/A and have turbo option for that car. N/A shoot for 220 hp, turbo shoot for 300 hp.

Then put the Z on a diet make it <3100 and give it a turbo or twin turbo 3.0. Problems solved. Z becomes faster car and nissan fills the sport coupe void it left while providing the competition the FRS/BRZ need. if they can get the single turbo 380 hp, twin turbo 440 hp. they will have 3 great cars

240SX 2800lbs, 220-300 hp $20k bare bones option - 30 k turbo
300ZT(T) 3100 lbs 380-440hp 40k-50k if twin turbo
GT-R forgot weight (3600?) and 520+ hp 100K

cookz · 04-11-2012, 04:58 PM

That seems like a good idea.. last thing we need is for them to put motor options for the new Z. Some "cool guy" gets the slow version and gives the z a bad rep by trying to race at every stop light. same with the "cool guy" who tries to do donuts with the base z and no LSD. (its like the mustang v6 with dual exhaust, every highschool teenage girl has one.) ...

ZMan8 · 04-11-2012, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookz

That seems like a good idea.. last thing we need is for them to put motor options for the new Z. Some "cool guy" gets the slow version and gives the z a bad rep by trying to race at every stop light. same with the "cool guy" who tries to do donuts with the base z and no LSD. (its like the mustang v6 with dual exhaust, every highschool teenage girl has one.) ...

I don't want them making a cheaper small engine Z, keep Z line on its own!

MacLean · 04-17-2012, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8

I have a solution to everything:

Nissan should release a 240sx along the lines of the FR-S/BRZ. Put a 2.4l N/A and have turbo option for that car. N/A shoot for 220 hp, turbo shoot for 300 hp.

Then put the Z on a diet make it <3100 and give it a turbo or twin turbo 3.0. Problems solved. Z becomes faster car and nissan fills the sport coupe void it left while providing the competition the FRS/BRZ need. if they can get the single turbo 380 hp, twin turbo 440 hp. they will have 3 great cars

240SX 2800lbs, 220-300 hp $20k bare bones option - 30 k turbo
300ZT(T) 3100 lbs 380-440hp 40k-50k if twin turbo
GT-R forgot weight (3600?) and 520+ hp 100K

I like that idea..... Hell the GTR is going for $96K & the Black Edition is around $106k & both pushing 545hp.

04-11-2012, 04:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
cookz Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 58 Drives: 2011 370z sp M6 Rep Power: 13	Nissan, Renault & mercedez merge? Mercedes-Benz-Powered Nissan Z - New Sports Cars from Nissan at RoadandTrack.com

04-11-2012, 04:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 658	yeah this was announced a little bit ago. They already said the diesel engines infiniti will be using are the mercedes ones __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

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ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 658	I doubt nissan will have the Z compete with the GTR unless the Z costs 100k as well __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

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04-11-2012, 04:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
cookz Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 58 Drives: 2011 370z sp M6 Rep Power: 13	Yeah, at the same time they are totally two different cars. they need to just release the silvia again to fill the gap they are looking at. Z still pulls a harder G than the gtr. .96 vs .93 (just doesnt have the power to hang) z is more mechanical and sporty feeling but the designer still talks about the z not being light enough and the motor keeps growing in size... "I much prefer smaller sports car," Nakamura revealed to Australia’s Drive. "It is the time to look at that [smaller engines]. With 370Z, we still don't know next generation will have a larger or smaller engine." He also said that reducing the weight of Nissan’s next-generation of sports cars is a priority. While downsizing the Z to compete with newcomers like the 2013 Scion FR-S and the 2013 Subaru BRZ may not be ideal, Nissan previously had great success with its 240SX. The vehicle was dropped from Nissan’s global lineup in the previous decade due to its engine, a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder, failing to meet stricter emissions standards.

04-11-2012, 04:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
cookz Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 58 Drives: 2011 370z sp M6 Rep Power: 13	That seems like a good idea.. last thing we need is for them to put motor options for the new Z. Some "cool guy" gets the slow version and gives the z a bad rep by trying to race at every stop light. same with the "cool guy" who tries to do donuts with the base z and no LSD. (its like the mustang v6 with dual exhaust, every highschool teenage girl has one.) ...