Hi-Res Pearl White Shots

6spd · 10-23-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie

Well I was going to post some pics of my own but after seeing these I am too embarrassed!! Great shots!! I went out shooting the other day but the foliage has passed and so got basically the car but nothing around it to create the surrounding atmosphere.

Regarding a comment about noise..you said

I could be wrong but as far as I know you would have to use JPEG compression at some point to send the files over the net and I dont think any website would care to host any other kind of files other than JPEGs and so that would cancel any advantage you might have had originally shooting in RAW. Maybe the webmaster here could enlighten us on this?

However, its easy to get rid of most JPEG compression noise with a number of programs including Noise Ninja. But I bet 99 out of 100 viewers would not notice it.
Again, great work! Maybe these will be on the cover of the next Nissan brochure!

Well that'd be one step into jpeg rather than being taken as a jpeg, saved as a jpeg, and posted and compressed again as a jpeg. The fewer steps of compression, the better. Yeah it'd be cool to be in a magazine, but there are far better photographers an pictures than mine!

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Originally Posted by memorylasts

Im finally back behind a decent monitor, the composition is great i like it, what i was looking at yesterday was what appeared to be a high ISO, unfortunately it was, as you said live and learn. I tend to keep my ISO down at 100 for 90% of my work just to avoid noise/grain, I change it if i want to find a different effect.

Also the higher the ISO i am shooting the more likely i want to shoot in raw, more room for correction if there is a little.

Yeah if I could go back in time, I'd set the iso to 100 instead of auto. I got the camera and the excitement to get out and shoot sorta blinded me!

RiCharlie · 10-24-2010, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

Well that'd be one step into jpeg rather than being taken as a jpeg, saved as a jpeg, and posted and compressed again as a jpeg. The fewer steps of compression, the better. Yeah it'd be cool to be in a magazine, but there are far better photographers an pictures than mine!

Yeah if I could go back in time, I'd set the iso to 100 instead of auto. I got the camera and the excitement to get out and shoot sorta blinded me!

Well your "three" compression steps are really one. Taking and saving are one process and posting does not require further compression if it was done correctly the first time.

I would much tend to believe the problem was caused by your use of high iso which is not JPEG compression but internal camera noise amplified. Using high ISO also decreases dynamic range..

My personal feeling is that shooting in RAW is a needless waste of time UNLESS you are shooting in conditions which might require extensive corrections due to camera meter error. In that case you can use RAW or bracket your exposures. I certainly dont like all the extra fiddling around with the RAW adjustments and I challenge any one to tell me they can tell the difference between a properly exposed JPEG and a RAW file on any computer monitor or even an 8 x 10 print. I use a NIkon D 90 with a Nikor 18-200 mm lens.

6spd · 10-24-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie

Well your "three" compression steps are really one. Taking and saving are one process and posting does not require further compression if it was done correctly the first time.

I would much tend to believe the problem was caused by your use of high iso which is not JPEG compression but internal camera noise amplified. Using high ISO also decreases dynamic range..

My personal feeling is that shooting in RAW is a needless waste of time UNLESS you are shooting in conditions which might require extensive corrections due to camera meter error. In that case you can use RAW or bracket your exposures. I certainly dont like all the extra fiddling around with the RAW adjustments and I challenge any one to tell me they can tell the difference between a properly exposed JPEG and a RAW file on any computer monitor. I use a NIkon D 90

Photography isn't a static process of standing there, snapping a shot and calling it a day for a lot of people. I shoot in RAW so I can manipulate the **** out of the picture if i want, which in my free time I do. There isn't one special way everyone is going to use, we all do it differently.

6spd · 10-24-2010, 10:06 AM

BTW, we have a photography chat thread for all this iso/RAW/jpeg non-sense, so lets navigate this topic over there.

RiCharlie · 10-25-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

BTW, we have a photography chat thread for all this iso/RAW/jpeg non-sense, so lets navigate this topic over there.

Thanks but I really did not want to chat about photography ,,,just wanted to complement you on your excellent photos and tell you that IMO you should not be kicking yourself for using JPEG and not RAW as I dont think that would make a bit of difference.

Meanwhile I posted a few pics of my own.. just quick grab shots with a bit of editing because everyone had been after me to post some pics...

6spd · 10-25-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie

Thanks but I really did not want to chat about photography ,,,just wanted to complement you on your excellent photos and tell you that IMO you should not be kicking yourself for using JPEG and not RAW as I dont think that would make a bit of difference.

Meanwhile I posted a few pics of my own.. just quick grab shots with a bit of editing because everyone had been after me to post some pics...

thanks man, i appreciate it. for most all intents and purposes, the difference is so minuscule it cant be discerned, but upon editing is where the difference is quickly noticed.

Dark_Sub_Rosa · 10-25-2010, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

BTW, we have a photography chat thread for all this iso/RAW/jpeg non-sense, so lets navigate this topic over there.

Posted.

Cmike2780 · 10-25-2010, 10:12 PM

Really nice work Six.

That's really not bad for ISO 1600 as some have mentioned, but it is slightly noticeable on the white paint.

You should be able to adjust the ISO setting independently in Aperture priority. That's what I usually use. The Manual mode is really more of a way to fine tune and too time consuming to mess around with while in the field.

6spd · 10-25-2010, 10:23 PM

what is kind of cool though about higher iso shots like this is that it gives the picture more of a slightly animated feel, or somewhat like a painting. Get what I mean?

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 28	Really nice work Six. That's really not bad for ISO 1600 as some have mentioned, but it is slightly noticeable on the white paint. You should be able to adjust the ISO setting independently in Aperture priority. That's what I usually use. The Manual mode is really more of a way to fine tune and too time consuming to mess around with while in the field. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 24	what is kind of cool though about higher iso shots like this is that it gives the picture more of a slightly animated feel, or somewhat like a painting. Get what I mean? __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

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