Played around with HDR (PW 370Z)

HKYStormFront · 01-25-2010, 10:20 AM

those aren't bad looking shots of ur car vipor but they don't look "HDR". plus taking one picture and turning it into an HDR by upping and lowering the exposure in post doesn't yield the same results as shooting +2 and -2 EV in the field. you can't create detail in the shadows and highlights that wasn't there to begin with. not saying there's anything wrong with doing it that way, just not the same results

vipor · 01-25-2010, 10:23 AM

ah, shows what I know. I was told they were, so I thought they were. They still do look over exposed and such, but I see what you're saying about the difference.

bullitt5897 · 01-25-2010, 10:39 AM

Typically, with HDR you are taking about 3-5 shots of the same image but in different but equal exposures on a scale. Like for instance: -3, -1, 0, +1, +3. This will give you extreme lights and extreme darks. You take those 5 images and import them into PS as and HDR composition and PS will allow you to edit and compose the single image. Typically, I have a stand for these kinds of shoots cause I cant hold the camera still enough and get 5 identical shots at different exposures.

I hope that kinda helps explain some of the process. I will find one of my old HDR's and post it up.

puckshaw · 01-25-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BLUESLATE

I use photomatix for HDR shots... and photoshop for, of course, editing. I took these two a couple days ago just for fun. It was a challenge to find out the exact combinations of detail and contrast that I wanted because of the weak and weird kitchen lighting.

These are my 2nd and 3rd HDR attempt. I'm also learning this little by little.

Not bad

I tried photomatix and really liked it but wasn't willing to pay $100 for it. I used qtpfsgui for my shots. It's free and produces very similar results. Takes a bit more effort but isn't too hard to work with. I just downloaded Gimp to see if I can use it as a substitute for Photoshop. I like PS but again, don't want to pay $100.

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Originally Posted by vipor

wanna learn. need a G to get a cam. anyone?!?!?! cmon!!!! just tell the IRS that I'm fron Haiti

Actually I took these pics with a Panasonic FZ35. You can find them for just over $300

Oh and nice shots of the car but I agree that they probably came from a single original. I've seen pretty good HDR effects from using a single RAW file but it seems that taking multiple shots is preferred.

vipor · 01-25-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Typically, with HDR you are taking about 3-5 shots of the same image but in different but equal exposures on a scale. Like for instance: -3, -1, 0, +1, +3. This will give you extreme lights and extreme darks. You take those 5 images and import them into PS as and HDR composition and PS will allow you to edit and compose the single image. Typically, I have a stand for these kinds of shoots cause I cant hold the camera still enough and get 5 identical shots at different exposures.

I hope that kinda helps explain some of the process. I will find one of my old HDR's and post it up.

makes sense now

like a multi-shot setting with different exposures, then layer it up. sweet. hard to do hand-held and keep it stable?

puckshaw · 01-25-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor

makes sense now

like a multi-shot setting with different exposures, then layer it up. sweet. hard to do hand-held and keep it stable?

I'd definitely recommend a tripod. Some cameras have a bracket feature where it will snap multiple shots at different exposures automatically. You could probably get away with handheld shots that way but I'd still just use a tripod.

HKYStormFront · 01-25-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by puckshaw

I'd definitely recommend a tripod. Some cameras have a bracket feature where it will snap multiple shots at different exposures automatically. You could probably get away with handheld shots that way but I'd still just use a tripod.

yea this^^^ i've got a free code for photomatix if you want it

vipor · 01-25-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

yea this^^^ i've got a free code for photomatix if you want it

I could definitely get some codes but they probably aren't supposed to be posted on here. Rapidshare = win.

puckshaw · 01-25-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

yea this^^^ i've got a free code for photomatix if you want it

Hell yeah! Can you PM it to me? Thanks

puckshaw · 01-25-2010, 06:59 PM

Bah I suck at this. I'm not having any luck producing the same results at high resolutions. Any HDR gurus have some insight on why I'm having so much trouble? I've tried tweaking everything in qtpfsgui and photomatix. It either turns out noisy as hell or completely undramatic.

HKYStormFront · 01-25-2010, 07:53 PM

and that's why i've gotten to the point where i just don't even mess with HDR, especially for cars

bsramzy · 01-25-2010, 07:58 PM

you've already heard it , but i love shot #3.

6spd · 01-25-2010, 10:27 PM

less photomatix, more photoshop! photomatix seems AWESOME at first but looses its flame quickly. making a picture with high dynamic range is very complicated and involves many different layers and much time. every aspect of the picture has to be tweaked separate from the rest, hence the many layers!

chicagozer · 01-25-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by puckshaw

Bah I suck at this. I'm not having any luck producing the same results at high resolutions. Any HDR gurus have some insight on why I'm having so much trouble? I've tried tweaking everything in qtpfsgui and photomatix. It either turns out noisy as hell or completely undramatic.

What file format are you starting with? If at all possible, use RAW files instead of JPG. I've played around with qtpfsgui from time to time. I think you can get some pretty cool stuff out of it.

speed_BMW330i · 01-25-2010, 11:49 PM

You guys want to talk about awesome, check out these pictures of various Formula 1 races using Tilt-Shift Photography .......

Formula One Through Tilt-Shift Lenses - Photography - Jalopnik

I'm sure someone on this board with a better aptitude for complex ideas can explain how these images are created.

That, or I guess I can wiki it and find out

Martin

01-25-2010, 10:20 AM	#16 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	those aren't bad looking shots of ur car vipor but they don't look "HDR". plus taking one picture and turning it into an HDR by upping and lowering the exposure in post doesn't yield the same results as shooting +2 and -2 EV in the field. you can't create detail in the shadows and highlights that wasn't there to begin with. not saying there's anything wrong with doing it that way, just not the same results __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

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vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 41 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 48	ah, shows what I know. I was told they were, so I thought they were. They still do look over exposed and such, but I see what you're saying about the difference. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

01-25-2010, 10:39 AM	#18 (permalink)
bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	Typically, with HDR you are taking about 3-5 shots of the same image but in different but equal exposures on a scale. Like for instance: -3, -1, 0, +1, +3. This will give you extreme lights and extreme darks. You take those 5 images and import them into PS as and HDR composition and PS will allow you to edit and compose the single image. Typically, I have a stand for these kinds of shoots cause I cant hold the camera still enough and get 5 identical shots at different exposures. I hope that kinda helps explain some of the process. I will find one of my old HDR's and post it up. __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

01-25-2010, 07:53 PM	#26 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	and that's why i've gotten to the point where i just don't even mess with HDR, especially for cars __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

01-25-2010, 10:27 PM	#28 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 24	less photomatix, more photoshop! photomatix seems AWESOME at first but looses its flame quickly. making a picture with high dynamic range is very complicated and involves many different layers and much time. every aspect of the picture has to be tweaked separate from the rest, hence the many layers! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

01-25-2010, 06:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
puckshaw Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 620 Drives: 09 PW 370Z Touring Rep Power: 16	Bah I suck at this. I'm not having any luck producing the same results at high resolutions. Any HDR gurus have some insight on why I'm having so much trouble? I've tried tweaking everything in qtpfsgui and photomatix. It either turns out noisy as hell or completely undramatic.

01-25-2010, 07:58 PM	#27 (permalink)
bsramzy Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: prairieville Posts: 70 Drives: 09 350z maNUAL Rep Power: 15	you've already heard it , but i love shot #3.

01-25-2010, 11:49 PM	#30 (permalink)
speed_BMW330i Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: chicago Posts: 107 Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Auto Rep Power: 16	**** Tilt Shift Photography ***** You guys want to talk about awesome, check out these pictures of various Formula 1 races using Tilt-Shift Photography ....... Formula One Through Tilt-Shift Lenses - Photography - Jalopnik I'm sure someone on this board with a better aptitude for complex ideas can explain how these images are created. That, or I guess I can wiki it and find out Martin Last edited by speed_BMW330i; 01-26-2010 at 12:03 AM.

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