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NoLaKrewe 01-14-2015 05:19 AM

The Z if TT is going to be expensive I'd assume

triso07 01-14-2015 09:49 AM

We should start an online campaign to get some damn info out of Nissan. It's brutal that there is just radio silence.

I'm in the market and I really like the new Nismo Z but I don't want to spend the money if Nissan is bringing out a new Z soon. I'd rather wait and see what's offered.

theDreamer 01-14-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 3080843)
The Z if TT is going to be expensive I'd assume

40k starting probably, maybe 35k if we are lucky for a base level model to get people in (missing key options of course).

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Originally Posted by triso07 (Post 3081103)
We should start an online campaign to get some damn info out of Nissan. It's brutal that there is just radio silence.

I'm in the market and I really like the new Nismo Z but I don't want to spend the money if Nissan is bringing out a new Z soon. I'd rather wait and see what's offered.

You will be waiting until 2017 for the new Z.
Silence is because they are probably done and trying to figure out the little details. Like will it have 2 engines, price point to offer, where to announce & when. Nissan is not stupid with the Z, they know each time they release a new one it has to be center stage for the brand only 2nd to the GTR. So if both the GTR & Z get complete overhauls for 2017 it will be a balancing act of which is 1st and when.

7speed 01-14-2015 11:26 AM

Can't wait till we start getting pics, that new Q60 coupe is going to be sexy based on the concept. Maybe Nissan will show Z at Detroit show next year.

theDreamer 01-14-2015 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 7speed (Post 3081233)
Can't wait till we start getting pics, that new Q60 coupe is going to be sexy based on the concept. Maybe Nissan will show Z at Detroit show next year.

Last Z was at the LA Auto Show so they might repeat that.
Detroit usually gets overshadowed by the American big 3 (look at the new NSX and how little press it is getting versus the new Ford GT), so they might reveal it in 2016 at LA.

carlitos_370z 01-14-2015 12:13 PM

another thread of this :eekdance:

brucelidat 01-14-2015 12:13 PM

Looks like the z35 might be in my future in 2018 (gives them some time to work out the kinks) if it looks good and gets good numbers from this engine.

brucelidat 01-14-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3081268)
another thread of this :eekdance:

except this time we finally have some info. What goes in the q60 will most likely go into the next z also.

carlitos_370z 01-14-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3081270)
except this time we finally have some info. What goes in the q60 will most likely go into the next z also.

awesome... i forgot to write that i dont read all the pages... i miss that part... can you explain me whats new please... :tup:

Thanks!

theDreamer 01-14-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3081285)
awesome... i forgot to write that i dont read all the pages... i miss that part... can you explain me whats new please... :tup:

Thanks!

Q60 (g37) concept was released with a new 3.0L V6 Twin Turbo engine made by Mercedes, this leads to the new Z sharing the same engine.

carlitos_370z 01-14-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3081289)
Q60 (g37) concept was released with a new 3.0L V6 Twin Turbo engine made by Mercedes, this leads to the new Z sharing the same engine.

:yum: that sound fcking good now we are talking about :stirthepot:

Thanks for the info bro!!:tup:

DOOMMONKEY777 01-14-2015 03:11 PM

I am disappointed. I think VQ has more potential as stock than that MB 3.0L v6. I just think u can still pull out more # out of stock TT VQ vs the new probably same price as to buy 370z and TT it than a next Z TT, not to mention if u ever going to upgrade it, maan what a deep pocket u need.

Tick64 01-14-2015 09:59 PM

They haven't released ANY info regarding price. I wouldn't stress about it yet man.

brucelidat 01-14-2015 11:00 PM

I doubt the new one will cost as much as TT-ing the existing one. That's 10k+. There's no way they're releasing the Z at 45k or so.

/Angelo350Z/ 01-15-2015 01:02 AM

After a quick search on the interwebs:

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Best Mercedes tuning value? A preview of the 330 horsepower Mercedes M276 DELA 30 Twin Turbo 3.0 liter V6 going into the W205/C205 C400
Here is the Mercedes-Benz answer to the BMW N55 3.0 liter turbocharged inline-6 and the Audi supercharged 3.0 TFSI V6. This new motor will be called the M276 DELA 30 and will have 3.0 liters of displacement in a V6 configuration with two turbochargers. The motor is based on the same direct injected M276 60 degree V6 architecture in the M276 naturally aspirated C350 models but with displacement reduced to 3.0 liters and compression reduced from 12.2:1 to 10.7:1.

This motor will see duty in the C400 4Matic model BenzBoost showed is coming in the next generation C205/W205 generation C-Class. An all wheel drive C-Class with a twin turbo six cylinder powerplant may end being the best tuning value in the Mercedes lineup. Not to mention Mercedes-Benz will now have a true rival for the BMW 335i and the Audi S4.

Power will be somewhere in the 330 horsepower range with torque at 354 pound-feet. High 12 second non-AMG C-Class? Low 12's or high 11's with just a tune? Sure looks realistic especially with the all wheel drive C400.

The block will have an aluminum block with forged internals and the engine will weigh 395 pounds. The turbochargers are manufactured by IHI who also supplies Audi's 4.0 TFSI turbochargers.

Check out the dynograph below to see how the M276 DELA 30 stacks up to the naturally aspirated M276 DE 35.

This is going to be a very exciting motor and a great tuning value for those who do not want to spend $100k+ for the 63 AMG M156 bi-turbos.


Rated Power 245kw @ 5250-6000rpm
Max torque 480Nm @ 1600-4000rpm
Bore x Stroke 88mm x 82.1mm
Compression ratio 10.7:1cr
Engine Weight DIN 70020GZ 179.2Kg

brucelidat 01-15-2015 01:11 AM

This is what everyone has been hoping for if it happens ( I don't want to say anything definitive and jinx it). Factory turbo'ed with 335i type tuning gains in a sexy (hopefully) Z body.

carlitos_370z 01-15-2015 05:43 AM

sounds great to me...

efuseakay 01-15-2015 02:43 PM

There will be a new TOOL album before we see a new Z.

Tick64 01-15-2015 05:25 PM

^^ Ha! I can't wait THAT long.

tag824 01-15-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 3081457)
I am disappointed. I think VQ has more potential as stock than that MB 3.0L v6. I just think u can still pull out more # out of stock TT VQ vs the new probably same price as to buy 370z and TT it than a next Z TT, not to mention if u ever going to upgrade it, maan what a deep pocket u need.

Even though the displacement is less there's still so much potential with FI engines. From tunes, to intercoolers, downpipes and everything in between you can achieve massive gains. All this with better fuel economy and loads more torque. The future is bright. P.S. Start saving for wider and stickier tires, you'll need 'em.

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Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 3082634)
There will be a new TOOL album before we see a new Z.

Been waiting years for a new TOOL album. Everything I've read sounds like this is the year. Instrumentals appear to be done (for the most part) and Maynard is finally working on lyrics. IT BETTER NOT SUCK :shakes head:

Magic Bus 01-16-2015 06:21 AM

What confirmation does anyone have that it's a Mercedes engine?

Jordo! 01-16-2015 06:54 AM

I had hoped for a bit more top end, but that peak torque figure, and the RPM it's achieved at, sounds mm mmm good to me :yum:

Bring on the smoking rubber death clouds, from obliterated rear tires :driving:

carlitos_370z 01-16-2015 07:56 AM

can wait to see what they are going to do!!! if the body will look like a modern 280Z im going to buy one for sure

brucelidat 01-16-2015 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3083124)
I had hoped for a bit more top end, but that peak torque figure, and the RPM it's achieved at, sounds mm mmm good to me :yum:

Bring on the smoking rubber death clouds, from obliterated rear tires :driving:

The 335's top end isn't that high stock either but we all know they are super tuneable for big gains.

Chad11491 01-22-2015 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3083200)
can wait to see what they are going to do!!! if the body will look like a modern 280Z im going to buy one for sure

The 370 strongly resembles the 240/60/80 already?

Did you mean 280zx? In that case the main thing I'd want from that would be t-tops!! Man, that'd be an instant buy from me, having t-tops or a targa.

carlitos_370z 01-22-2015 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad11491 (Post 3088927)
The 370 strongly resembles the 240/60/80 already?

Did you mean 280zx? In that case the main thing I'd want from that would be t-tops!! Man, that'd be an instant buy from me, having t-tops or a targa.

hahaha!!! T-Tops.... hell yeah im in for sure bro!!!! thats remember me the two MR2 that i owned back in the days :( one of them N/A and the other Turbo... both T-Tops... well back to the topic from my mental trips loool!! I mean the S30 Z something that looks almost like this...

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I know is old chassis... but if Nissan did something like this... obviously modern like a few brands are already doing... im going to throw my money no matter what :tup: I wish here in PR i can find a S30 Z but over here that car is very very rare...

Masterbeatty 01-22-2015 08:52 AM

Well if ford can put a turbo V6 in the new GT than a merc twin turbo V6 will be just fine for the next gen Z.

carlitos_370z 01-22-2015 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 3088996)
Well if ford can put a turbo V6 in the new GT than a merc twin turbo V6 will be just fine for the next gen Z.

:iagree:

ZMan8 01-22-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 3081899)
After a quick search on the interwebs:

That would be a good set up that would not raise the price by much either. :yum:

/Angelo350Z/ 01-22-2015 09:49 AM

Mercedes also has a 3.5L version from what I recall. I wonder why Nissan would go with the 3.0L variation, aside from the cost, of course.

theDreamer 01-22-2015 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 3089072)
Mercedes also has a 3.5L version from what I recall. I wonder why Nissan would go with the 3.0L variation, aside from the cost, of course.

Cost & to make sure the Z & GT-R stay separated as much as possible.
If the Z is going to get the TT engine then it needs to be a lower displacements. The 3.5L is to close to the 3.8L in the GT-R, get to find out the new GT-R motor soon hopefully as it will be in their LeMans car.

brucelidat 01-22-2015 11:46 AM

Gt-r is supposed to be going hybrid so the separation is still there. If gt-r was staying tt v6, I doubt we'd see a rt v6 in tje new z.

theDreamer 01-22-2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3089184)
Gt-r is supposed to be going hybrid so the separation is still there. If gt-r was staying tt v6, I doubt we'd see a rt v6 in tje new z.

The GT-R is staying a V6TT along with a hybrid system on top of it.
They were testing it at CoTA last week (the engine in the LeMans car). The hybird system will probably be part of the AWD giving it more power on top of the V6TT.

brucelidat 01-22-2015 02:12 PM

Yeah, didn't say it wouldn't be a v6, just saying the extra hybrid factor keeps the separation with the tt v6 Z.

b15 01-22-2015 02:42 PM

I'm liking that torque figure. Nissan will always handicap the engine of the Z to distance it from the GTR.

ZMan8 01-22-2015 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 3089373)
I'm liking that torque figure. Nissan will always handicap the engine of the Z to distance it from the GTR.

Unless next GTR is some hybrid 700-800 hp monster. Then bring on a 400 hp Z.

b15 01-22-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 3089385)
Unless next GTR is some hybrid 700-800 hp monster. Then bring on a 400 hp Z.

Fingers crossed! I'm all for that. The Z deserves better than to be a GTR shadow

brucelidat 01-22-2015 05:56 PM

considering the current nismo gt-r has just about 600hp, I would not be surprised if the new hybrid one pushes close to 700. At the very least it will have mid 600s is still plenty more than a 400 hp Z.

kenchan 01-22-2015 06:57 PM

im ready for electric motors...


on my rc cars :mad:

carlitos_370z 01-23-2015 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3089583)
im ready for electric motors...


on my rc cars :mad:

:icon18: damn bro hahahaa!!


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