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Mr. Frye, please try to be more diligent when posting factual information about the next gen Z or the ban hammer will start swinging! |
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Special lease deals and financing offers (3.8%) for 38 months too?
38 month warranty or 38k miles whichever comes first? |
OK, I was losing faith in Nissan. But I think the Z35 will "wow" a lot of you. The G37 replacement will most likely have lots of things in common with the Z35 I presume.
"The Q60 coupe shares its direct-injected, twin-turbocharged DOHC 3.0-liter V-6 with the saucy Q80 Inspiration concept, which Infiniti revealed at the Paris motor show last fall, although in this application it’s not supplemented by an electric motor. Mated here to a seven-speed automatic, this V-6 is part of a new line of lighter, smaller engines that will start spreading throughout Infiniti’s future lineup within two years, replacing the ancient 3.7-liter V-6. Infiniti is mum on output, but don’t be surprised if it makes somewhere in the neighborhood of 400 horsepower in the Q60." -http://www.caranddriver.com/news/infiniti-q60-coupe-concept-photos-and-info-news 400+ FI horses baby! Bye bye long in the tooth VQ V6, hello new gen engines! |
I was hoping that since Nissan and Mercedes Benz have an agreement for Nissan to use Mercedes engines that the next Z would have Mercedes' M276 DELA 30 or M276 DELA 35 (twin turbo V6s). Maybe Mercedes may have felt that would make the cars (including the Infiniti lineup) too competitive for Mercedes, and the agreement was Nissan to use their 4 cylinders.
Would like to see how much hp the new Nissan DI V6s make, and they still have their trademark howl sound. Anyone know if these new DI V6s are new new, or based on the VQ? |
All speculation till it actually comes out. Alot of times cars can get delayed till they feel the market is right. Nissan is busy right now promoting there new diesel ruck coming out this week at the autoshow.
Been alot of surprises or lack of from a number of car makers lately. Take the WRX STi. All new everything but the same engine thats almost 10 years old now. |
LAVA> I think the write up on the new Q60 pretty much settles it: it is using the Mercedes TT 3.0, even though they didn't come out and say Mercedes. Awesome news! Gorgeous car too.
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I find it funny that there has been lot of speculation about the next Z recently and we just got some info on the possible powerplant and no one is discussing it.
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blah, i'm excited that the next gen could be far superior to this one, but at the same time i'm not... i don't want to buy buy another car and pay for 5 years again lol
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I think the Next Z model is going to be a Revell-Monogram.
Might be a Tamiya though, we'll have to see. |
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From the 350z to 370z we saw a nice power bump but nothing crazy. The interior was a good upgrade but that was mostly just different materials. This looks to be a good bump in power, but I can see the interior staying similar with some adjustments for newer technology. |
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400HP with a turbo motor will be a great starting platform, give the Z a chance against the Mustang/Camaro V8 crowd. Also, the question of weight is going to come into play. I imagine the Z will see an increase like others to probably 3500 starting weight. |
Interior is nice enough for me. If it gets a nice power bump like the 400+ this suggests, looks sexy and drops some weight, I will be interested.
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but there's the million dollar question.....will Nissan go and make a Z that looks like and is powered by the same powerplant. the engine I can see being used but not sure about the styling. makes me wonder if the new nismo bumper was just like their way of a small test of the direction of the next gen styling. regardless fo rumors and speculation, I am very excited to see if and when the next gen info is released. just sucks nothing has been released yet like the Q60. makes me feel like there wont be a next gen Z until 2017MY |
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My concern for the front is Nissan may go with something like this as this look is going across their platform right now. http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg |
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but then again it happened when the current gen came out. infiniti G37 came out then the Z debuted after. |
i'm interested in the price tag.
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add in bigger engine add in upgraded interior subtract for competitive market share price - if going after the dumb brz/frs market? i'd say base at 35k top end 45/50k I hope not more :shakes head: anything over 50k then you might as well us it as a down payment and snag a GT-R. 14/15 MY are runnin low 80s all day at the auction with 2k miles. |
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the sticker price on my 13 was 29,500 |
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If they go 2 motor (4 banger T/NA & V6TT) I could see a 25k starting price for the low end Z to get people in, then for the TT you jump up to 35k and performance (Nismo) 40-45k starting price and all staying under 50k. Anything over that you are approaching GTR and pushing the Z out of its class and we don't want another 300zx again. |
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not a chance I would even consider the 4 banger. 400+HP TT V6 though.....take my money NOW lol factory boost that can probably get aftermarket bump to 600HP no problem. :yum: |
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look at the GT-R (yes higher end car but boosted V6 for comparison): stock 545BHP. my friend did just bolt-on's +tune and he gained around 120whp I believe. i'll try and find his dyno sheets. I know now with a built bottom end and tranny upgrade he had it tuned at 22psi and was at 780whp/735wtq. thennnnn they did more. 750whp on 93 octane last I checked and 900whp on e85 and upping the boost... soooo yea let's hope another stock boosted Nissan? engine does the same for the Z as the GT-R |
Which Mercedes engine have they been showing off in the q60?
In any other production cars today? |
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So where we spend 5k now for 30whp you can spend the same amount and get 100whp. Just because it has a TT kit does not mean it will be cheaper, I imagine the prices will actually go up for the v6TT parts. The majority of people will buy the lower end engine as it will be cheaper to buy into so 70% of parts will be made for it. |
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without no new name of the engine or specifics it's too hard to tell if Nissan actually built their own or outsourced. that is unless I've missed something or new news in the past 24 hours. |
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I wonder with Nissan going with another engine (Mercedes) if we could see the Z enter into production in the US for the first time.
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and yea the Q60 is the stepped down version of the Q80. basically giving the structure I would imagine to the Z and GT-R relationship. R36 will most likely go with a hybrid set-up like all the other newer supercars. i'll find that tt 3.0l somewhere lol |
With the launch of the 3.0-l V6 gasoline engine with direct injection and twin turbocharging, called M276 DELA 30, a new member has been added to the approved M276 V6 gasoline engine series, which effortlessly embodies the highest of comfort requirements, superior driving performance and efficiency. Its initial use was in the new Mercedes-Benz E 400 in spring 2013.
found it lol The New Mercedes-Benz 3.0-l V6 DI Gasoline Engine with Twin Turbo - ATZ online it's the E class |
I read on CarBuzz that the q60 has a direct injection TT V6. Sounds like the mercedes engine. However, the q60 is still a concept, so we can't say it will have that engine 100%. It is likely that whatever engine is in the q60 will make it to the next Z. Hope for the best!
In other news, the new NSX and Ford GT make my pants wet :postwhore: |
Wow, everyone has been hoping that the next Z will have a turbo v6 in it and now that looks likely. I was all prepped for disappointment but am now getting a little bit hopeful/excited. I hope it looks sexy still and loses weight though it would be bad for my bank account.
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