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LAVA 01-08-2015 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye (Post 3075376)
It's gonna be called the 380Z. It will be stroked to 3.8 liters to give it increased torque, with 380 ft lbs of torque and 380 HP. It will also have 380 lbs removed in weight which will cut .38 seconds off of the 0-60 time and have an MSRP of $38,000.

Nissan engineers have been working dilligently to hit every one of those parameters. I have a spy in their design center who has seen the test mule and he swears it's true.

You forgot the one most important fact...Target demographic is 38, only persons 38 years old will be allowed to purchase the new 380Z.

Mr. Frye, please try to be more diligent when posting factual information about the next gen Z or the ban hammer will start swinging!

Magic Bus 01-08-2015 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LAVA (Post 3076182)
You forgot the one most important fact...Target demographic is 38, only persons 38 years old will be allowed to purchase the new 380Z.

Mr. Frye, please try to be more diligent when posting factual information about the next gen Z or the ban hammer will start swinging!

Also heard only 380 will be sold across the US.

LAVA 01-08-2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 3076184)
Also heard only 380 will be sold across the US.

This is also correct

Z_ealot 01-08-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 3076184)
Also heard only 380 will be sold across the US.

Dang, someone will have to notify their production facilities then cause there's been way more than 370, 370z's produced

Datsun240Z71 01-09-2015 07:15 AM

Special lease deals and financing offers (3.8%) for 38 months too?
38 month warranty or 38k miles whichever comes first?

edk370 01-11-2015 04:36 PM

OK, I was losing faith in Nissan. But I think the Z35 will "wow" a lot of you. The G37 replacement will most likely have lots of things in common with the Z35 I presume.

"The Q60 coupe shares its direct-injected, twin-turbocharged DOHC 3.0-liter V-6 with the saucy Q80 Inspiration concept, which Infiniti revealed at the Paris motor show last fall, although in this application it’s not supplemented by an electric motor. Mated here to a seven-speed automatic, this V-6 is part of a new line of lighter, smaller engines that will start spreading throughout Infiniti’s future lineup within two years, replacing the ancient 3.7-liter V-6. Infiniti is mum on output, but don’t be surprised if it makes somewhere in the neighborhood of 400 horsepower in the Q60." -http://www.caranddriver.com/news/infiniti-q60-coupe-concept-photos-and-info-news

400+ FI horses baby! Bye bye long in the tooth VQ V6, hello new gen engines!

LAVA 01-11-2015 07:31 PM

I was hoping that since Nissan and Mercedes Benz have an agreement for Nissan to use Mercedes engines that the next Z would have Mercedes' M276 DELA 30 or M276 DELA 35 (twin turbo V6s). Maybe Mercedes may have felt that would make the cars (including the Infiniti lineup) too competitive for Mercedes, and the agreement was Nissan to use their 4 cylinders.

Would like to see how much hp the new Nissan DI V6s make, and they still have their trademark howl sound.

Anyone know if these new DI V6s are new new, or based on the VQ?

Powerwiz 01-11-2015 09:41 PM

All speculation till it actually comes out. Alot of times cars can get delayed till they feel the market is right. Nissan is busy right now promoting there new diesel ruck coming out this week at the autoshow.

Been alot of surprises or lack of from a number of car makers lately. Take the WRX STi. All new everything but the same engine thats almost 10 years old now.

BrandonT 01-12-2015 09:12 PM

LAVA> I think the write up on the new Q60 pretty much settles it: it is using the Mercedes TT 3.0, even though they didn't come out and say Mercedes. Awesome news! Gorgeous car too.

MagmaRed370z 01-13-2015 11:59 AM

http://jalopnik.com/the-next-nissan-...t-b-1666907249

BC416 01-13-2015 12:38 PM

I find it funny that there has been lot of speculation about the next Z recently and we just got some info on the possible powerplant and no one is discussing it.

FPenvy 01-13-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3080217)
I find it funny that there has been lot of speculation about the next Z recently and we just got some info on the possible powerplant and no one is discussing it.

yup. the same 3.0L TT from Mercedes I posted about months ago lol it may not say merc on it but i'm pretty sure it is.

njobe89 01-13-2015 01:35 PM

blah, i'm excited that the next gen could be far superior to this one, but at the same time i'm not... i don't want to buy buy another car and pay for 5 years again lol

Read T 01-13-2015 01:37 PM

I think the Next Z model is going to be a Revell-Monogram.

Might be a Tamiya though, we'll have to see.

theDreamer 01-13-2015 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3080270)
blah, i'm excited that the next gen could be far superior to this one, but at the same time i'm not... i don't want to buy buy another car and pay for 5 years again lol

Honestly, like most cars & new models it will be upgraded but not 10x higher.
From the 350z to 370z we saw a nice power bump but nothing crazy. The interior was a good upgrade but that was mostly just different materials.

This looks to be a good bump in power, but I can see the interior staying similar with some adjustments for newer technology.

FPenvy 01-13-2015 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3080274)
Honestly, like most cars & new models it will be upgraded but not 10x higher.
From the 350z to 370z we saw a nice power bump but nothing crazy. The interior was a good upgrade but that was mostly just different materials.

This looks to be a good bump in power, but I can see the interior staying similar with some adjustments for newer technology.

I honestly think i'd be fine with a similar interior if the power bump is a good one along with a nicely updated body.

theDreamer 01-13-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3080279)
I honestly think i'd be fine with a similar interior if the power bump is a good one along with a nicely updated body.

The front bumper I am interested in seeing, with the new Nissan directive to push a similar front bumper across the line up the Z could end an odd one.
400HP with a turbo motor will be a great starting platform, give the Z a chance against the Mustang/Camaro V8 crowd.

Also, the question of weight is going to come into play. I imagine the Z will see an increase like others to probably 3500 starting weight.

brucelidat 01-13-2015 01:45 PM

Interior is nice enough for me. If it gets a nice power bump like the 400+ this suggests, looks sexy and drops some weight, I will be interested.

FPenvy 01-13-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3080283)
The front bumper I am interested in seeing, with the new Nissan directive to push a similar front bumper across the line up the Z could end an odd one.
400HP with a turbo motor will be a great starting platform, give the Z a chance against the Mustang/Camaro V8 crowd.

Also, the question of weight is going to come into play. I imagine the Z will see an increase like others to probably 3500 starting weight.

I love the new nismo front bumper. plus the look of that Q60 is just pure sex. so if that's the direction plus add in the Z is the performance side of the brand, I think there is miles of potential for the next Z.

but there's the million dollar question.....will Nissan go and make a Z that looks like and is powered by the same powerplant.

the engine I can see being used but not sure about the styling. makes me wonder if the new nismo bumper was just like their way of a small test of the direction of the next gen styling.

regardless fo rumors and speculation, I am very excited to see if and when the next gen info is released. just sucks nothing has been released yet like the Q60. makes me feel like there wont be a next gen Z until 2017MY

theDreamer 01-13-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3080293)
I love the new nismo front bumper. plus the look of that Q60 is just pure sex. so if that's the direction plus add in the Z is the performance side of the brand, I think there is miles of potential for the next Z.

but there's the million dollar question.....will Nissan go and make a Z that looks like and is powered by the same powerplant.

the engine I can see being used but not sure about the styling. makes me wonder if the new nismo bumper was just like their way of a small test of the direction of the next gen styling.

regardless fo rumors and speculation, I am very excited to see if and when the next gen info is released. just sucks nothing has been released yet like the Q60. makes me feel like there wont be a next gen Z until 2017MY

2017 looks to be the year of the Z/GTR refresh, the GTR is still doing ok but the Z is starting ti get to stretched.
My concern for the front is Nissan may go with something like this as this look is going across their platform right now.
http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg

FPenvy 01-13-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3080295)
2017 looks to be the year of the Z/GTR refresh, the GTR is still doing ok but the Z is starting ti get to stretched.
My concern for the front is Nissan may go with something like this as this look is going across their platform right now.
http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg

I figured it would be a 17 change but I wanted to be optimistic (excited more or less)

but then again it happened when the current gen came out. infiniti G37 came out then the Z debuted after.

njobe89 01-13-2015 01:57 PM

i'm interested in the price tag.

FPenvy 01-13-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3080297)
i'm interested in the price tag.

well my 09 sticker was 44k with everything except light up kick plates.

add in bigger engine
add in upgraded interior
subtract for competitive market share price - if going after the dumb brz/frs market?

i'd say base at 35k top end 45/50k I hope not more :shakes head:

anything over 50k then you might as well us it as a down payment and snag a GT-R. 14/15 MY are runnin low 80s all day at the auction with 2k miles.

njobe89 01-13-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3080298)
well my 09 sticker was 44k with everything except light up kick plates.

add in bigger engine
add in upgraded interior
subtract for competitive market share price - if going after the dumb brz/frs market?

i'd say base at 35k top end 45/50k I hope not more :shakes head:

anything over 50k then you might as well us it as a down payment and snag a GT-R. 14/15 MY are runnin low 80s all day at the auction with 2k miles.

yea i'd say 35-45 is doable... like you said anything over that would be pushing it and in my opinion not worth it.

the sticker price on my 13 was 29,500

theDreamer 01-13-2015 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3080298)
well my 09 sticker was 44k with everything except light up kick plates.

add in bigger engine
add in upgraded interior
subtract for competitive market share price - if going after the dumb brz/frs market?

i'd say base at 35k top end 45/50k I hope not more :shakes head:

anything over 50k then you might as well us it as a down payment and snag a GT-R. 14/15 MY are runnin low 80s all day at the auction with 2k miles.

It all depends on how they plan to do the Z.
If they go 2 motor (4 banger T/NA & V6TT) I could see a 25k starting price for the low end Z to get people in, then for the TT you jump up to 35k and performance (Nismo) 40-45k starting price and all staying under 50k. Anything over that you are approaching GTR and pushing the Z out of its class and we don't want another 300zx again.

FPenvy 01-13-2015 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3080300)
yea i'd say 35-45 is doable... like you said anything over that would be pushing it and in my opinion not worth it.

the sticker price on my 13 was 29,500

yea your 13 can suck my balls. lost 4k off my value due to the price drop lol

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3080302)
It all depends on how they plan to do the Z.
If they go 2 motor (4 banger T/NA & V6TT) I could see a 25k starting price for the low end Z to get people in, then for the TT you jump up to 35k and performance (Nismo) 40-45k starting price and all staying under 50k. Anything over that you are approaching GTR and pushing the Z out of its class and we don't want another 300zx again.

:iagree: 100%

not a chance I would even consider the 4 banger. 400+HP TT V6 though.....take my money NOW lol factory boost that can probably get aftermarket bump to 600HP no problem. :yum:

njobe89 01-13-2015 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3080314)
yea your 13 can suck my balls. lost 4k off my value due to the price drop lol

lol woops?

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3080314)
:iagree: 100%

not a chance I would even consider the 4 banger. 400+HP TT V6 though.....take my money NOW lol factory boost that can probably get aftermarket bump to 600HP no problem. :yum:

do you think it would be easy to achieve the 600

theDreamer 01-13-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3080316)
lol woops?



do you think it would be easy to achieve the 600

Considering we have guys right now who slap on a TT kit and hit 550-600whp with e85, I can see the new engine doing the same but it will be costly. New Z probably under 5k for basic upgrades (exhaust/intercooler/piping/etc) will get you 500 but after that will be bigger turbos, fuel pump, etc. which are the expensive items.

FPenvy 01-13-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3080316)
lol woops?



do you think it would be easy to achieve the 600


look at the GT-R (yes higher end car but boosted V6 for comparison):

stock 545BHP. my friend did just bolt-on's +tune and he gained around 120whp I believe. i'll try and find his dyno sheets.

I know now with a built bottom end and tranny upgrade he had it tuned at 22psi and was at 780whp/735wtq. thennnnn they did more.

750whp on 93 octane last I checked and 900whp on e85 and upping the boost...



soooo yea let's hope another stock boosted Nissan? engine does the same for the Z as the GT-R

theDreamer 01-13-2015 02:25 PM

Which Mercedes engine have they been showing off in the q60?
In any other production cars today?

njobe89 01-13-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3080327)
Considering we have guys right now who slap on a TT kit and hit 550-600whp with e85, I can see the new engine doing the same but it will be costly. New Z probably under 5k for basic upgrades (exhaust/intercooler/piping/etc) will get you 500 but after that will be bigger turbos, fuel pump, etc. which are the expensive items.

seems that's what you almost spend now for bolt on mods lol

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3080330)
look at the GT-R (yes higher end car but boosted V6 for comparison):

stock 545BHP. my friend did just bolt-on's +tune and he gained around 120whp I believe. i'll try and find his dyno sheets.

I know now with a built bottom end and tranny upgrade he had it tuned at 22psi and was at 780whp/735wtq. thennnnn they did more.

750whp on 93 octane last I checked and 900whp on e85 and upping the boost...



soooo yea let's hope another stock boosted Nissan? engine does the same for the Z as the GT-R

damn that would be pretty sick... i know it won't be anywhere close to those numbers, but still just the thought get you excited lol :excited:

theDreamer 01-13-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3080339)
seems that's what you almost spend now for bolt on mods lol


damn that would be pretty sick... i know it won't be anywhere close to those numbers, but still just the thought get you excited lol :excited:

The difference will be more power from 'bolt ons' since the motor has a TT kit on it already.
So where we spend 5k now for 30whp you can spend the same amount and get 100whp. Just because it has a TT kit does not mean it will be cheaper, I imagine the prices will actually go up for the v6TT parts. The majority of people will buy the lower end engine as it will be cheaper to buy into so 70% of parts will be made for it.

FPenvy 01-13-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3080335)
Which Mercedes engine have they been showing off in the q60?
In any other production cars today?

based on early speculation of them sourcing the merc cla amg TT V6 and also a 4 banger from them as well could be true now that a 3.0L TT V6 (same as speculated) popped up in the Q60.

without no new name of the engine or specifics it's too hard to tell if Nissan actually built their own or outsourced. that is unless I've missed something or new news in the past 24 hours.

theDreamer 01-13-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3080344)
based on early speculation of them sourcing the merc cla amg TT V6 and also a 4 banger from them as well could be true now that a 3.0L TT V6 (same as speculated) popped up in the Q60.

without no new name of the engine or specifics it's too hard to tell if Nissan actually built their own or outsourced. that is unless I've missed something or new news in the past 24 hours.

All I have read is the motor used in the q60 concept is the same as the one in the q80 minus the hybrid stuff.

njobe89 01-13-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3080342)
The difference will be more power from 'bolt ons' since the motor has a TT kit on it already.
So where we spend 5k now for 30whp you can spend the same amount and get 100whp. Just because it has a TT kit does not mean it will be cheaper, I imagine the prices will actually go up for the v6TT parts. The majority of people will buy the lower end engine as it will be cheaper to buy into so 70% of parts will be made for it.

yea i can see that happening if they do roll out the two different engine choices.
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3080344)
based on early speculation of them sourcing the merc cla amg TT V6 and also a 4 banger from them as well could be true now that a 3.0L TT V6 (same as speculated) popped up in the Q60.

without no new name of the engine or specifics it's too hard to tell if Nissan actually built their own or outsourced. that is unless I've missed something or new news in the past 24 hours.

i believe they out sourced it, but that's just my guess.

theDreamer 01-13-2015 02:37 PM

I wonder with Nissan going with another engine (Mercedes) if we could see the Z enter into production in the US for the first time.

FPenvy 01-13-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3080346)
All I have read is the motor used in the q60 concept is the same as the one in the q80 minus the hybrid stuff.

I edit my previous post. I meant the 4banger was the CLA sourced. not sure about the V^ what car it was in.

and yea the Q60 is the stepped down version of the Q80. basically giving the structure I would imagine to the Z and GT-R relationship. R36 will most likely go with a hybrid set-up like all the other newer supercars.

i'll find that tt 3.0l somewhere lol

FPenvy 01-13-2015 02:42 PM

With the launch of the 3.0-l V6 gasoline engine with direct injection and twin turbocharging, called M276 DELA 30, a new member has been added to the approved M276 V6 gasoline engine series, which effortlessly embodies the highest of comfort requirements, superior driving performance and efficiency. Its initial use was in the new Mercedes-Benz E 400 in spring 2013.

found it lol

The New Mercedes-Benz 3.0-l V6 DI Gasoline Engine with Twin Turbo - ATZ online

it's the E class

Eclipz 01-13-2015 08:49 PM

I read on CarBuzz that the q60 has a direct injection TT V6. Sounds like the mercedes engine. However, the q60 is still a concept, so we can't say it will have that engine 100%. It is likely that whatever engine is in the q60 will make it to the next Z. Hope for the best!

In other news, the new NSX and Ford GT make my pants wet :postwhore:

brucelidat 01-14-2015 02:42 AM

Wow, everyone has been hoping that the next Z will have a turbo v6 in it and now that looks likely. I was all prepped for disappointment but am now getting a little bit hopeful/excited. I hope it looks sexy still and loses weight though it would be bad for my bank account.


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