Multiple Engine for Next Z? from Nissan VP
 

If that has been covered, or if you are over seeing four hundred threads with speculation about the Z35, Mods delete this.

Taken from Autoblog:

So really...they are just throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks before they launch.

I don't care that much about the specific engine, provided it has good off the line torque and decent power, meaning it certainly can't result in a slower Z relative to previous ones.

OEM FI would be great -- that means a stout motor that has lots of room to make more power, again, provided it isn't anemic off the line.

I'd disregard the idX commentary... if any of that car's DNA goes into the next Z, it will be in the form of weight savings and package options -- not in looks or performance. They aren't going to make the next Z look like a Datsun 510.

Honestly, if they made the car 200 lbs heavier than the FR-S, but gave it a V6 or turbo 4 (or an option of both) it would be a screamer and a hit.

Seems like even with the OEM engine, the FR-S is a pretty good hit around these parts. They are a blast to drive too! (I do not mean to start a war)

Out of the FR-S and S2000 which is more fun to drive? Ive personally driven an S2000 and it was awesome, felt like a Go Kart and had zero body roll, felt very stiff and planted. I've never driven an FR-S

who cares if it looks like crap i wont go near it

on the other hand not everyone is a fan of the frs but omg its fun to drive

The FR-S was fun to drive until you hit a hill, then it's lack of power was readily apparent.

I'm not believing anything till I see one, there has been way too much speculation regarding the next Z. The real question is are they going to fix the CSC. lol

Don't want to turn this thread into a FR-S thread. Was reading that the sales for the FR-S are down. And Toyota is not putting any FI on the motor either.

lol I hope they do, and not by only offering the AT!

nope, they'll also offer a CVT :tiphat: (with revmatching)

Ever feel like you're in a group circle jerk? :stirthepot:

Here's the text of a similar article published today in InsiderCarNews.com:

My question is: If they haven't yet even decided something as fundamental as what the engine(s) will be, how can the next-gen Z be coming out within two years?

Just to be clear, all I meant regarding the FR-S was that I'd have no complaints about an FR-Sish sized (i.e., "downsized") Z, provided it performed as well as or (ideally) better than the current gen Z.

I'm sure the FR-S is a lot of fun -- my original plan, before getting the Z, was to buy a FR-S and put a blower on it :D

http://images.lowes.com/product/024761/024761013895.jpg

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Probably has power then the current engine :bowrofl:

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And my opinion is that i dont think we are going to see the next Z for now, except for the rumors, and more rumors.... i think that IDX is the next platform that we are going to see soon, the rumors to make this I thik is more solid than the Z for now, and is a car that can compete with Subaru BRZ, Scion FR-S and Toyota 86... I just hope that Nissan keep making the Z platform and if the can make the Z35 looks like the S30Z i think im going to change my Z hahahah!!!

BTW i have the opportunity to drive my brother 2008 Honda S2000 CR and man that damn car turns like a fcking go-kart... i love it... and i have the opportunity to drive my friend Scion FR-S a and love how feel that car too... hey but i cant forget my precious Z that i drive daily... man that fcking Z rocks.... i cant imagine my life with out my Lady :p

Thanks for being clear. I misunderstood it to be about AT's. :icon17:

A small Z is fine by me.

A new report coming out of Japan finds that the successor to the Nissan 370Z will be offered with at least two engines supplied by Mercedes-Benz.


Tentatively dubbed Z, the sports car will be introduced with a gasoline-electric drivetrain consisting of a Mercedes-sourced turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine and hybrid technology designed and built in-house by Nissan.


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Japanese magazine Best Car finds that the two power sources will generate a combined output of 246 horsepower at 6,000 rpms and 258 lb-ft. of torque from 1,250 to 3,500 rpms. A seven-speed automatic transmission will send power to the rear wheels.

Nissan understandably expects that the turbo-electric drivetrain will be mainly popular in Europe and in Japan. In the United States, most Zs will be equipped with a 3.0-liter V6 engine pulled out of the Mercedes parts bin.

Nissan has other big surprises in store for the Z. It will be smaller, lighter and cheaper than the current 370Z, and it will be introduced exclusively as a convertible.

"Its main market is the US, a market which demands competitively priced convertibles with loads of street cred," explained a company insider.

To keep weight and costs down, Nissan is debating whether to fit the Z with a targa roof or with a T-top, a setup used on a number of Z cars from the 1970s to the 1990s. A retractable power soft top like the one used in the 370Z Roadster (pictured) has been ruled out because it is too expensive.

The Nissan Z will be introduced at a major auto show next year and go on sale shortly after as a 2016 or a 2017 model.

Read more: Next Nissan Z to get Mercedes-sourced engines? | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews

cheaper and lighter? Great!

smaller engine / lower output? CONVERTIBLE? ...... brb i'm going to vomit

HOLY CRAP after puking my guts out... if this truely does come out i wouldn't be surprised to see the current Z's appreciate a little.

The original Z was small, light, and was not a huge tire-burner. But it was a hardtop.

The Z is a done deal. It's been designed, engines have been chosen, maybe minor details are undecided. All of this shyt being thrown around in the internet is bait info to keep the forums going.

Pretty sure the Z will...
1.Have 2 or 3 engines including a turbo & Benz influences
2.Will be 100lbs/200lbs lighter.
3. Have a shape much closer to 240z

Thats what I believe will be true out of all rumors

A slower, convertible-only Z with an auto tranny? :roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

yea dat auto convertible so much street cred yo!

I'll take a 3000 lb Z with a 3.0 as long as it's boosted. I can't wait for them to announce it so all this speculation can be over with. I am really interested in seeing how much weight they end up cutting.

Honestly I can't see them cutting much weight. Unless they get rid of a lot of technology and overall shrink the car dimensions there really isn't much left to cut for weight. Not to mentions this new model will have to comply with new standards for safety which always adds weight.

Consider the FRS. Even with removal of the backseat it's still going to be at 2800lbs, just to keep numbers even. Add in a V6 and weight will easily approach the 3000lbs mark. Add in more luxury and technology that will have to be in the car to compete in todays market for a 30k+ car. Now your at least at 3100lbs. Add in updated safety standards, maybe 3200lbs now. That's best case scenario. Once you start talking about 19 inch or 20 inch wheels and large brakes/rotors, and all the other goodies the weight will go even higher. Add on turbos, intercoolers, and plumping and even more weight comes.

I think for a V6 sports car we won't see lower weight than where we are now. The only way the Z will weight less is with a smaller engine. Honestly I'm okay with 3200-3400lbs for a car as long as the suspension and power is there. I've driven/owned cars like the C7, Camaro 1LE, Various corvettes, Audi R8 V10, Porsche turbo, etc that all have weights equal to or higher than 3300lbs. They are were all a blast to drive. Yes, in a perfect world I'd love a sub 3000lbs car with 400hp but being realistic I'd rather they give us a decent engine while working on keeping the weight where it's at. Nothing short of 400hp is going to keep the Z alive since 400 is the new 300 in the car industry

If they can keep it under 3300 with more power, or cut the weight to around 2500 with a turbo 4 making 275-300 i'd be interested.

If they have the platform together they could shoehorn a couple different engine and drivetrain layouts in it within a year.

They probably have a few unreleased concepts already figured out and are waiting until they're pretty sure they have it nailed before releasing.

I still think the most recent Nismo was a bit of test marketing for styling (i.e., subdued, but new aero) and options for the next gen Z, but we'll see.

That plus a tune -- done! :icon18:

Hey if you have enough of them...Video proof, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U81_0waqEWA

Well, that last of the true Z's are done it sounds like. I will not buy a Mercedes engine transplanted Z. Somehow I see all this as a bunch of rumors.

Not a new member, but I am a new 370z owner.

I bought my 370z recently although the speculation of a new model is all the place. My reasons was an acceptable weight, great engine, reasonable price and availability of aftermarket parts. Saying that, I wouldn't mind a turbo engine as it would mean higher capability for power plus a lighter chassis. But I have a thing for naturally aspirated engines and this was why I didn't wait.

Now about Z35, the positive of the rumours we have
- Weight less than current generation.
- Multiple power plants (means better market share).
- Cheaper.
The negatives:
- Mostly, new engines will have less power (I think Nissan will be satisfied with having the same performance level of 370z unlike us).
- Turbo? It has its good points but I would choose NA any day.
- I expect the bigger engines to be more expensive than current generation.
- Convertible only? I won't touch it at all.

On current information available, I can say Z35 is a no. Better keeping my 370z or going to Porsche. (Recently I tried the Carrera S, GT3 and Turbo S in the track, tbh I am trying to avoid splashing all my savings on the GT3, this machine is a monster :o I will be a happy poor man lool)


Anyway, we will wait the Z35 hoping it will be better.

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I have a question:

What's Nissan's logic for using a Mercedes engine? Nissan has a wide selection of proven models and is no slouch at improving/boosting them to higher performance standards. What the rational for Nissan to outsource/partnership the next Z?

Also... what's Mercedes' getting out of this?

Iirc, they have a tech sharing agreement, similar to bmw and Toyota. Keeps costs down for both parties.

I would be all over a 2900 lb Z with the motor from the AMG CLA. That 4 is beastly.

Dunno how I feel about a hybrid Z or even a Z with an MB engine. Not take anything away from the MB but to me it's not Z heritage. I despise convertibles so I wouldn't be interested in one.

I think I'll stick with my z34 unless the reveal is mind blowing.

Wouldn't be the first time. The L24 had a lot of slightly tweaked MB DNA since Prince had a licensing agreement to build MB knockoff motors and Nissan bought Prince.

Yeah I read that as well.

I think I'm really worried about the way the car's going to look and perform. So far they're saying it's going to be lightweight and smaller etc. I just don't want it to look similar to a FRS/BRZ.

I personally feel as if the Z34's body/styling is gorgeous. The car looks almost perfect. It's the right size and I probably wouldn't be interested in a smaller car (considering this is my daily driver). Maybe a 3.0 turbocharged motor wouldn't be a bad idea for the smaller car but I'm also comparing the Z to perform against the v8 camaro's, mustang's.

I hope God hear you :tup: