Originally Posted by Zerocool (Post 3050320)

Maybe a 3.0 turbocharged motor wouldn't be a bad idea for the smaller car but I'm also comparing the Z to perform against the v8 camaro's, mustang's.

Originally Posted by falconfixer (Post 3051043)

rant on

How many GD times do you need to hear that the MB engine is being built by Nissan technicians in a ******* plant down here in TN? Do any of you MB haters even come out of your caves to educate yourselves on alliances? You really want to piss and moan about brands? How about Nissan is nothing more than a Renault?

rant off/

I still like the rumor that the next-gen is getting a mass produced version of the current R35 powerplant.

Originally Posted by falconfixer (Post 3051043)

You really want to piss and moan about brands? How about Nissan is nothing more than a Renault?

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 3048718)

Honestly I can't see them cutting much weight. Unless they get rid of a lot of technology and overall shrink the car dimensions there really isn't much left to cut for weight. Not to mentions this new model will have to comply with new standards for safety which always adds weight.

Consider the FRS. Even with removal of the backseat it's still going to be at 2800lbs, just to keep numbers even. Add in a V6 and weight will easily approach the 3000lbs mark. Add in more luxury and technology that will have to be in the car to compete in todays market for a 30k+ car. Now your at least at 3100lbs. Add in updated safety standards, maybe 3200lbs now. That's best case scenario. Once you start talking about 19 inch or 20 inch wheels and large brakes/rotors, and all the other goodies the weight will go even higher. Add on turbos, intercoolers, and plumping and even more weight comes.

I think for a V6 sports car we won't see lower weight than where we are now. The only way the Z will weight less is with a smaller engine. Honestly I'm okay with 3200-3400lbs for a car as long as the suspension and power is there. I've driven/owned cars like the C7, Camaro 1LE, Various corvettes, Audi R8 V10, Porsche turbo, etc that all have weights equal to or higher than 3300lbs. They are were all a blast to drive. Yes, in a perfect world I'd love a sub 3000lbs car with 400hp but being realistic I'd rather they give us a decent engine while working on keeping the weight where it's at. Nothing short of 400hp is going to keep the Z alive since 400 is the new 300 in the car industry

Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 3051744)

Doesn't the Stingray weigh around 3300 lbs? It's a V8 with 4 seats.

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 3052006)

No, the stingray does not have 4 seats. What corvette ever had 4 seats?

Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 3052036)

lol... you're right. I have no idea what I was thinking when I posted that 4 seat comment. I'd strike it up to being a long day, but honestly it hasn't been. A moment of personal stupidity. :icon17:

Originally Posted by Zerocool (Post 3052125)

Would have been cool if they developed a newer version of the twin turbo motor from the z32 to be put in the 370z.

Make it a 330 twin turbo machine... hell even a 300hp twin turbo machine. Doesn't matter, upgrade the turbos and a tune... :driving:

Originally Posted by Merv (Post 3052433)

^ there are no cai's on a FI motor. But I get what your saying. :driving:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 3052006)

No, the stingray does not have 4 seats. What corvette ever had 4 seats? Yes it's a V8. Engine vs. Engine there is about a 150lbs difference. Keep in mind too that the Vette uses a lot of light weight materials but it's also 53K+ in price as well. Sure, the Z in theory could be made lighter but at what cost to us the buyers.

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3053048)

I think its odd that some of the renderings are based on the Maxima concept... I don't think the Z will have that terrible grill...

My guess is, very similar lines to current and a front fascia more similar to the latest Nismo. They are unlikely to deviate from the classic sports car coupe profile.

I'm expecting maybe 40-50 kg lighter (thanks mainly to even more aluminium), a turbo 4 option that makes much more torque and slightly less top end (resulting in a Z that is marginally quicker than current) with a N/A V6 option that is probably a re-tooled VQ, making 350+ bhp and at least as much torque as the four banger, for even better performance.

They could offer Nismo options for each that includes better aero/suspension, the snazzy badges, and slightly tweaked power -- just like they do now.

All of that is do-able with stuff from the Nissan parts bin, and it is in keeping with the rumors that are most frequently cited (and also least absurd).

If they are serious about the two engine options, then it will come down to price, which is easier to mod (in theory, the turboed motor, but who knows...), etc.

If they do the T4 vs. V6 option it is worth noting that this recipe didn't work so well for the Gen coupe...

Isn't the Tokyo Auto show in January? They better get the concept ready...

Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3052296)

hahahaha!!! i said :wtf: a Vette with 4 seats :bowrofl: you make me search on the Chevrolet webpage to confirm that info hahahah!!:ugh2:


:iagree::iagree::iagree:

Just my 2 cents...
Why not just make a damn version of our VQ37 but 3.0 TT.... they can use the same GT-R TT setup... we know that our engines are strongest enough to hold 500hp on FI setup with out forged internals... im not saying that the Z have to come with 500hp :rolleyes: but at least 350hp i think it would be great.... I know is the same HP that the 370z Nismo have but hey... is a 3.0 FI... you put some intakes, exhaust, few psi more and a tune... trust me you are going to have some good numbers on your dyno sheet.... My opinion is that Nissan do not have to use and MB engine on the new Z... they have a lot of good engines like the SR20, RB25, RB26... for say some engines that they make... Anyway we are going to wait to see finally what Nissan are going to do with Z platform...

Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3053683)

I agree with you but those engines you listed are too old for Nissan to use. With the current emission laws and they are getting even more strict, those motors could never hope to pass. I would really hope for a turbo 3.0. A lot could be done with that provided Nissan doesn't make it out of glass. Its crazy that Nissan is legendary for their turbocharged engines of old, however here we are 20 years later BEGGING them for a new one, and they can't oblige.

Its not THAT big of a deal for me because the odds of me getting the new Z are really slim. Im recently married and 26. Its time for kids and **** :shakes head: I would have to do an astronomical amount of :icon23: kissing to my wife for her to not immediately say "no" when I even say "Z" lol.

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3053718)

hmm and then people tell you to get married. Hah! yea right

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3053838)

hopefully she's into cars then it will be to salaries going into your car instead of one :D haha

Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3053865)

Yes bro... she likes cars a lot :) thats something good and bad at the same time loool cause she know my car like the palm of shes hand :ugh2: soo i can hide any part that i install on the Z lool:eekdance:

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3053869)

just claim it's tax deductible :D lol

Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 3053569)

They already made up their minds by now.

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3053718)

hmm and then people tell you to get married. Hah! yea right

Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3054140)

Well it has its benefits. You have a permanent slam piece. So depending on your wife, you could be guaranteed sex at almost any time. If you have the right wife, she will also get you awesome car parts for Christmas!! :tup: Mine is slightly upset with the car right now because I turbocharged it this year, then spent some money of fuel upgrades later and retuned. So I have spent more money than I would like to admit on it this year lol. And I may be dropping some more on it unexpectedly :ugh2: :shakes head: :confused:

She has a Genesis Coupe, so I MIGHT be able to convince her to buy one if she likes it enough lol.