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Duc_Z09 12-03-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dotcomee (Post 3046985)
PONTIAC: err, nm. :p

Yeah, I wasn't going to go there.:roflpuke2:

ZeeingAround 12-03-2014 10:30 PM

I would like to know the age of the people who rated it low to buy another and I would also like to see their next choice.
My bet is they are young and their next car is a four-door 'cause the wife or GF they picked up in the Z is preggers.

See myself in the mirror when I had my 300Zx.

Z Ninja 12-04-2014 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3046293)
Could be worse....
( Click to show/hide )
Could be a PRIUS...:ugh2:

I drove a Prius for eight years before I switched to the 370z. A 2006 and then a 2012.

DavidZ370 12-04-2014 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Zipper 104 (Post 3046383)
I bought my Z in August.
When I look at that list there is not one car I'd buy other than the Z. And it isn't like I'm exactly enamoured with it.
I wouldn't buy anything domestic with a V8; the Porsches are way more than I'm willing to pay and I won't pay the service bills, same goes for anything else European. Miata and Fiat??? Sorry, I'm not gay. Hyundai Genesis? Nope.
BRZ, FRS or whatever else they call 'em? Too plain Jane. If I was to go that route I'd rather have bought a Mazda 3 or a Golf.
The only other car I really gave any thought about getting isn't exactly a sports car....Nissan Maxima. Just my opinion.

104

Don't lie.:icon18:

jay4500 12-04-2014 01:30 AM

I had a z ,my problem with it was lack of power,cost to much to make more power,and the maxima was to close to the z power,all show and no go, FI is the only way to go to make that car fast.:shakes head:

Tick64 12-04-2014 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jay4500 (Post 3047169)
I had a z ,my problem with it was lack of power,cost to much to make more power,and the maxima was to close to the z power,all show and no go, FI is the only way to go to make that car fast.:shakes head:

You don't buy a Z for max power. It has plenty of other great attributes. I love mine.

ZeuceCoupe 12-04-2014 04:27 AM

I've driven 14 of the cars on that list...still haven't gotten a chance to drive the stingray...haven't had the Mercedes or mx-5, no fiat...But I think there is pride in that list...the V6 challenger is by far one of the biggest dogs I've ever driven, if not the biggest...camaro rs isn't far behind. The Porsches top it because Porsche people are like jeep guys (I own a 2009 Wrangler Unlimited that was my first build and had I not gotten my Z it'd still be where my expendable income which is incredibly far from being remotely expendable would reside) The 1 series is pretty fun and feels very tight and nimble, but it's a sports car I'd get for my fiancee...doesn't have much soul/that something special my clunky gearboxed temperamental Z has.

The only car I can say which I've had nearly the same amount of fun in is the fr-s/brz...those are an absolute blast and provide that something extra that you just can't put your finger on.

The 370 is one of the last of a dying breed, which I guess makes me the last of a dying breed. Give me that 3rd pedal with power to the rears that actually demands attention any day over a pdk. We are lucky to enjoy one of the last true "driver's cars"... My ultimate guess - the Z owners polled are frightened by the car's rough edges or simply don't feel what is so special about that roughness

Jordo! 12-04-2014 05:03 AM

That rating probably reflects the fact that half the people who bought the Z secretly wanted a Mustang, so...

Anyway, I wanted a Z and am glad I was able to get a Z.

DLSTR 12-04-2014 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KramChaos (Post 3046356)
Agreed 100%. CSC failures are another issue that corporate refuses to acknowledge as a poor design.

They sell alot of manuals. No shock the results are what they are. Drop'd ball here for sure.

njobe89 12-04-2014 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 3047193)
They sell alot of manuals. No shock the results are what they are. Drop'd ball here for sure.

i'm sure if people started calling/sending emails/letters to corporate to let our voices be heard they would have to do something about that.

kenchan 12-04-2014 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Z Ninja (Post 3046129)
Consumer Reports ranked the 370z sixth in the overall ranking of sports cars, but what is really surprising is how low it rated in the percentage of owners who would definitely purchase the same vehicle again. It came in next to last behind the Hyundai Genesis Coupe. It kind of begs the question, why? :confused:

good, the less Z's we have on the road, the happier i get for exclusivity.
the :crying: can go cry to their moms.. lol

axmea? 12-04-2014 07:32 AM

This survey completed by JungleZ.

kenchan 12-04-2014 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3047293)
This survey completed by JungleZ.

:icon18:

Zipper 104 12-04-2014 07:33 AM

Lol
 
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Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3047159)
Don't lie.:icon18:

LOL....I figured it was a wee bit more PC to say it the way I did than to come right out and say the Fiat 500s and Miatas are g**.

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Firebase99 12-04-2014 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3047190)
That rating probably reflects the fact that half the people who bought the Z secretly wanted a Mustang, so...

Anyway, I wanted a Z and am glad I was able to get a Z.

Not sure I understand. If you can afford a Z, you can afford a Mustang. I wanna 911 Turbo, its no secret I cant afford it. lol.

HEK 12-04-2014 08:52 AM

I wonder if the survey was done at one of the audiences of the "Family Feud"....survey says...and most times who cares because they are so innacurate , I'm happy with my Z and if i crash it I would get another one just like it and this comes from a guy who since high school have been boying new cars right out of the box....:tiphat:

ZeuceCoupe 12-04-2014 10:32 AM

I apologize if this is somewhere else on here (it probably is) but I think this is a pretty thought provoking article that more or less summarizes the failure of appreciation for the Z instead of the car itself when read from a driving enthusiast's POV...



Three simple reasons why the Nissan 370Z cannot compete in the US - Torque News

ZeuceCoupe 12-04-2014 10:36 AM

"Considering that every other car in the segment has a back seat, the Nissan 370Z is at a tough disadvantage to the competition and this problem is compounded by the fact that a back seat isn’t something that you can just dial up. The company can lower the price or add more power but it is much more difficult to add a back seat – or a cargo area that is more readily accessible from the driver’s seat."

Absolutely pathetic

ohohoh123456 12-04-2014 10:37 AM

TBH I'd love to get another Z but given how much problems I've had since the first day, I feel hesitated. Too much buzzing/knocking/shaking, Nissan pays too little attention to details.

njobe89 12-04-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeuceCoupe (Post 3047449)
I apologize if this is somewhere else on here (it probably is) but I think this is a pretty thought provoking article that more or less summarizes the failure of appreciation for the Z instead of the car itself when read from a driving enthusiast's POV...



Three simple reasons why the Nissan 370Z cannot compete in the US - Torque News

i like my Z, it looks good and drives good, but i think it's a little true... the back seat thing, i bought the car cause it was a two seater and i didn't want to drive anyone around. i just agree with the power output. i think they should have upgraded it at least a little bit and not left it the same since 2009. As some mentioned in the comments in that article nissan is hurting themselves with not fixing the common issues with the 370z. the csc being one of the biggest problems now. they should issue a recall and get it fixed. nissan being stingy and not wanting to fix that problem makes me not want to ever buy another nissan vehicle.

Zephon13 12-04-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeuceCoupe (Post 3047449)
I apologize if this is somewhere else on here (it probably is) but I think this is a pretty thought provoking article that more or less summarizes the failure of appreciation for the Z instead of the car itself when read from a driving enthusiast's POV...



Three simple reasons why the Nissan 370Z cannot compete in the US - Torque News

I don't get how they can even say something about the power output of the Z... Yeah there are V8's that will put down more power, but tell me where you can buy a more powerful NA V6 off the lot.

Funny that all of his reasons not to buy a Z are my reasons to buy a Z.

Of course I could have gotten a FRS for "$8,700 less" (which if I even went that route I would have gotten the more premium BRZ with leather + other features) and that would have actually turned out to be only $3000 less than what I got my Z for (I got a quote and almost put a down payment for it). After test driving a Z it was a REALLY tough decision to make there, bro. :roflpuke2:

Needless to say I ended up driving the Z home that same day :P

Jordo! 12-04-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeuceCoupe (Post 3047449)
I apologize if this is somewhere else on here (it probably is) but I think this is a pretty thought provoking article that more or less summarizes the failure of appreciation for the Z instead of the car itself when read from a driving enthusiast's POV...



Three simple reasons why the Nissan 370Z cannot compete in the US - Torque News

Those are fair criticisms. At minimum the Z35 needs to keep the price down and the power up, which I'm pretty sure would be popular things to do...

A recent rumor claims the Z35 will be a 2+2 (I'm happier with 2 fewer seats, but vestigial ones won't bother me), and that is also a logical issue for folks who bought the Z, but then needed to trade it in for something with back seats.

Actually, of all the random articles I've read that talked smack about the Z34, that one seemed the most reasonable. Only the title is a little on the harsh side, but the points made are fair ones.

RicerX 12-04-2014 01:42 PM

I'm not much of a fan of these statistics at all. They're borderline meaningless in the grand scheme of things, especially with this group of cars.

"Sporty" cars is quite a lofty, non-committal term in this case because it tries to do too much at once.

One car I would immediately discredit is the Corvette Stingray. What percentage of owners are still in the "honeymoon" phase? Silly to gauge owner satisfaction there. I know that every car I ever owned, within the first year or so, I would likely say "yes I would buy it again." Is that a fair sentiment when you have most of that car's owners and their satisfaction levels gauged against a likely equal pool of people with a 6 year old 370Z? Of course, at that point, they're likely going to be like "yeah, it's time for something new". Completely asinine. Of those cars on that poll, the 370Z is one of the oldest platforms.

The other piece of it is - why wouldn't you buy again? How many of the people who can afford a Corvette Stingray likely can afford a more practical car to handle life? I challenge you to take that demographic and compare it to Z owners - they likely won't buy another Z because life simply won't accommodate a 2 seater as things happen and they have to move on. Most Vette owners are in their 50s and 60s. There are plenty of Z owners in their late teens and early 20s on this board, and it's their only car.

Then, to combine those two cars, the demographics in each, and compare them to a FWD four-door Civic SI? Or an AWD Audi S4 sedan? A Focus hatchback? A ******* FIAT?

This is why anything Consumer Reports piles together is a load of ****. While there are valid points made by many people in this thread about shortcomings of the Z, the report itself... nothing to see here.

Dcocci 12-04-2014 02:55 PM

z35- 400hp v8. It's a must in my opinion.

totopo 12-04-2014 04:20 PM

I am curious as to what direction they are going to take with the next generation Z.

I am curious to as what powerplant they are going to chose, and what overall design philosophy. I wonder if they are going to try to add a third sports car to their line up, back to the old silvia/fairlady/skyline days, or if the market isn't there any more.

Can they tune the vk v8 to make decent OEM power? Supposedly when they designed the GT-R they thought about a V-8, but decided to go for a TT v-6 instead. I wonder if they are going to go for a heavy high HP car to try to capture the large american muscle car market from domestics? such as the VK or a tt VR or tt VQ? Kind of hard to see how you can beat the domestics in the american market in hp/dollar though.

or are they going to try to fight it out with the fr-s/miata in the light/fun category? like a turbo QR (meh) or a turbo MR (meh) or god forbid an NA QR

Or keep it in the mid-range affordable track car where it sits now. and continue with an updated V6 maybe with direct injection or something.

Or maybe they are working on an all new engine block. maybe a half decent i4?

Jordo! 12-06-2014 05:44 AM

^^^ I wouldn't get your hopes up for a V8... they can get plenty of punch out of a V6 or boosted I4.

They just need to keep the weight down and the throttle response sharp.

cigarclifford 12-06-2014 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3049023)
^^^ I wouldn't get your hopes up for a V8... they can get plenty of punch out of a V6 or boosted I4.

They just need to keep the weight down and the throttle response sharp.

like the famous line from... The Pawn Stars show............V8 its not going
to happen son............:iagree:

-Clifford

Zerocool 12-06-2014 10:05 AM

Well when Nissan doesn't promote their sports car what's to expect?
I love my car, and love how it stays flat on corners. Are the performance parts expensive? yes, but you gotta pay to play.

The honda Civic si surprises the **** out of me then again, the parts for it are probably a third of the cost for our Z's.

Duc_Z09 12-06-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerocool (Post 3049183)
The honda Civic si surprises the **** out of me then again, the parts for it are probably a third of the cost for our Z's.

True, but who wants to drive a Civic?:rofl2:

RonRizz 12-06-2014 12:07 PM

Holding out for the rocket powered (or magnet driven) next generation Z

Vegitto-kun 12-06-2014 04:25 PM

honestly I personally won't buy a Z again. I mean I LIKE the car but there are so many cars out there that I can get that are that fast, are more comfortable and just "better"

TBH the biggest part why I won't buy a Z anymore is because I don't want RWD cars anymore. After several near accidents and spinouts on damp roads and stuff like that I have a "fear" of RWD. I can't punch the Z in a corner anymore. I don't want to drive on a racetrack anymore. Its just RWD has lost all appeal to me. back when I bought the Z I was all like "HELL YEAR RWD WOOOO" and now like 6 years later I am like meh. sure its fun and all if you want to go drift and stuff like that. But since you can't do stuff like that here in this god forsaken country what is the point.

track days are stupid expensive(like a grand + for what 4-5 20 minute sessions in a while day?) we have no drag strips or places where you can legally go drift. we have alot of rain. our roads are mediocre at best and we get freezing and snow for 3-4 months.

now if the Z would have a AWD option. then you know what. maybe I will consider it but for now. no more Z for me.

Zipper 104 12-06-2014 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 3049321)
honestly I personally won't buy a Z again. I mean I LIKE the car but there are so many cars out there that I can get that are that fast, are more comfortable and just "better"


OK, I'll play......name 'em for me.
Remember, same price range.....apples to apples.

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Fuzzzy 12-06-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 3049321)
TBH the biggest part why I won't buy a Z anymore is because I don't want RWD cars anymore. After several near accidents and spinouts on damp roads and stuff like that I have a "fear" of RWD. I can't punch the Z in a corner anymore.

Really? I guess I haven't given much thought to people with little or no experience driving RWD cars.

I learned to drive pre-Olds Toronado in RWD cars and largely on dirt or gravel roads--at least until I got my driver's license. One of the main reasons the Z appealed to me was RWD. FWD cars are so boring by comparison.

Good luck in finding something you are happy with. Life is too short to be driving cars you don't enjoy.

Dcocci 12-06-2014 09:59 PM

Yeap. After reading more about the next gen Z speculation, it sounds like a v8 is out. So instead of going after the mustang GT, it looks like they may dial it back and build the next Z to take on the FRS/BRZ? Think of it as a S car/Z car mix maybe? We'll see. I hate speculating about these things, I'm more of the "I'll believe it when I see it" type.

VCuomo 12-06-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcocci (Post 3049489)
Yeap. After reading more about the next gen Z speculation, it sounds like a v8 is out. So instead of going after the mustang GT, it looks like they may dial it back and build the next Z to take on the FRS/BRZ? Think of it as a S car/Z car mix maybe? We'll see. I hate speculating about these things, I'm more of the "I'll believe it when I see it" type.

The rumored multi-engine design (gas/electric) could have more than enough horsepower and (especially) torque to go after the Mustang (and many other high-horsepower cars).

Dcocci 12-06-2014 10:25 PM

435hp. we'll see. hope youre right

cigarclifford 12-06-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerocool (Post 3049183)
Well when Nissan doesn't promote their sports car what's to expect?
I love my car, and love how it stays flat on corners. Are the performance parts expensive? yes, but you gotta pay to play.

The honda Civic si surprises the **** out of me then again, the parts for it are probably a third of the cost for our Z's.

Nissan is run like a true business and they promote what makes Nissan
the most investment on their return..:iagree:

The new Honda civic - type r out of the box will be a great seller...

Bottom line. I'm here and were all here because we love and enjoy a 370Z..........

I'm at 72,000 miles on my 2010 Nismo and have no intentions of
changing sports cars...

-Clifford :tup:

Duc_Z09 12-06-2014 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 3049321)
TBH the biggest part why I won't buy a Z anymore is because I don't want RWD cars anymore. After several near accidents and spinouts on damp roads and stuff like that I have a "fear" of RWD. I can't punch the Z in a corner anymore. I don't want to drive on a racetrack anymore. Its just RWD has lost all appeal to me.

Looks like you no longer want a true sports car, so what's your point? Go buy a WRX.

NoLaKrewe 12-07-2014 01:00 AM

Bought my Z today. I'd buy another one every day for the rest of my life if I could. This fresh car smell. My car has an ***

cab83_750 12-07-2014 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cigarclifford (Post 3049500)

Bottom line. I'm here and were all here because we love and enjoy a 370Z..........

I'm at 72,000 miles on my 2010 Nismo and have no intentions of
changing sports cars...

-Clifford :tup:

Famous last words. :)

Take it as a compliment, but we all outgrow everything (clothes, houses, horsepower, speed, style, etc.).

I bet if you win the lotto or receive a substantial inheritance, you'll be buying another brand of sports car - in addition to your Z of course! :happydance:


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