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JC-Nismo 12-01-2014 08:06 AM

Really? Would love test that theory........

Nargrakhan 12-01-2014 08:16 AM

I think track tests and/or number crunching was performed and there's a thread about it somewhere on this site.

My search-fu is currently lacking though.

njobe89 12-01-2014 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3044135)
This topic comes up,on every forum:
R/T vs SRT8
335 vs M3
RS vs SS
IS350 vs ISF
and the list goes on. IMO it boils down to this, if you have the money and it's no issue you'll never even look at the base model. Let's be honest, the Nismo, just like the M3, SRT8, ISF or AMG's are the exclusive cars of the brand and all out just look better and have a few better options, but at the least, when it's all said and done you'll have the top model of that specific car brand and thats worth a lot to me cause one of my last cars was a M3 and my two current cars are a Nismo and SRT8 and as bad as I wanted a Porsche, I can honestly say that I couldn't afford the 991 Turbo and wouldn't feel right driving anything less than a Turbo model and even the 997 was a bit much for me to spend on a used Porsche. No disrespect, just my opinion.

i personally just don't see the $10,000 price increase for a nismo. while the other cars you listed above there is a noticeable difference in looks and performance.

Luciano13 12-01-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3044135)
This topic comes up,on every forum:
R/T vs SRT8
335 vs M3
RS vs SS
IS350 vs ISF
and the list goes on. IMO it boils down to this, if you have the money and it's no issue you'll never even look at the base model. Let's be honest, the Nismo, just like the M3, SRT8, ISF or AMG's are the exclusive cars of the brand and all out just look better and have a few better options, but at the least, when it's all said and done you'll have the top model of that specific car brand

I don't think this is truly accurate. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you'll buy the highest end model....In the end you still need to also like the top model. The Nismo, as nice of a body kit it has and extra bolt ons, I would never buy one due to the fact I wouldn't want to pay more for it to simply be taken apart....
Cars with factory aggressive full body kits are usually for people that don't want to change cosmetics too much.(IMO)

kenchan 12-01-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 3044244)
From what others have told me, the added 18 hp barely offsets the extra weight.

how much you weight? :icon08:

mishuko 12-01-2014 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3044382)
how much you weight? :icon08:

apparently enough to make the PWR drop...

Duc_Z09 12-01-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3044188)
Are you sure about that...........18hp more should net something.

I've been told the extra HP comes at the top of the rev band and at the expense of some mid-range. This makes sense to me as I've had this experience with motorcycles (Ducati Testastretta 11-degree vs Superbike valve timings are a good example).

The NISMO is extremely "revvy" for lack of a better word. Unless you're really hammering it, you're never going to notice the extra 18hp and it will probably be slightly slower for more "normal" driving. At 6000 rpm though, hold on tight!:driving:

OP: Go with the one you want; they're both fantastic cars. I love the exclusivity, looks, suspension, and wheels/brakes of my NISMO but I'm still jealous of the Touring interior. If you value ride quality/comfort get a base model.

mishuko 12-01-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3044416)
I've been told the extra HP comes at the top of the rev band and at the expense of some mid-range. This makes sense to me as I've had this experience with motorcycles (Ducati Testastretta 11-degree vs Superbike valve timings are a good example).

The NISMO is extremely "revvy" for lack of a better word. Unless you're really hammering it, you're never going to notice the extra 18hp and it will probably be slightly slower for more "normal" driving. At 6000 rpm though, hold on tight!:driving:

OP: Go with the one you want; they're both fantastic cars. I love the exclusivity, looks, suspension, and wheels/brakes of my NISMO but I'm still jealous of the Touring interior. If you value ride quality/comfort get a base model.

heck... once I rev above 4000rpm it gets fun in my sports touring!

NoLaKrewe 12-01-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3044273)
i personally just don't see the $10,000 price increase for a nismo. while the other cars you listed above there is a noticeable difference in looks and performance.

You could buy a Nismo and strip it of everything on it that says Nismo and make all your money back. I think the Nismo is fine for the price. In the end you're paying for that badge number. Something that says their is only X amount like yours. I find the Nismo to be absolutely stunning pre 2015.

njobe89 12-01-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 3044470)
You could buy a Nismo and strip it of everything on it that says Nismo and make all your money back. I think the Nismo is fine for the price. In the end you're paying for that badge number. Something that says their is only X amount like yours. I find the Nismo to be absolutely stunning pre 2015.

i could find out how many models(yr, color, etc.) were made like mine and badge it myself and have the only base sport pckg with a badge. so can it be priced at 50k?

i do understand what you're saying, but from my opinion i just don't see the 10k price difference. if the engine was different then i'd be able to see it, but as it sits now i don't. again, that's just my opinion.

Nargrakhan 12-01-2014 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 3044470)
You could buy a Nismo and strip it of everything on it that says Nismo and make all your money back. I think the Nismo is fine for the price. In the end you're paying for that badge number. Something that says their is only X amount like yours. I find the Nismo to be absolutely stunning pre 2015.

Sadly the badge number seems to have been discontinued with NISMO starting with 2015. Confirmed the Z and GT-R no longer do it. Haven't heard about the Juke yet...

NoLaKrewe 12-01-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 3044487)
Sadly the badge number seems to have been discontinued with NISMO starting with 2015. Confirmed the Z and GT-R no longer do it. Haven't heard about the Juke yet...

Yeah, that's why I said pre 2015. Between the ugly rims and the debadging I wouldn't buy the new Nismo but the 2014 Nismo in PW or Red make me jizz. The 2013 black Nismo does the same.

Smashley 12-01-2014 01:17 PM

I never liked the NISMO Z's until 2015.(looks wise - the new wheels)
Big spoiler:ugh2: long nose:ughdance:

Only reason I would purchase a NISMO any year for the $ would be if the engine hp was significantly more powerful. The Sports/Touring looks great already.

NISMO GT-R is a perfect example vs the standard GT-R

Montez 12-01-2014 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3044273)
i personally just don't see the $10,000 price increase for a nismo. while the other cars you listed above there is a noticeable difference in looks and performance.

Exactly, you are getting something for the extra money! Good gains/better performance in all performance parameters, not minimal or if any at all as in the case of the Nismo vs base sports package. :icon14:

Duc_Z09 12-01-2014 03:42 PM

I probably wouldn't pay extra if I were buying new... but since I was looking used, I was happy to pick up a NISMO over a base. I've only seen 2 others and 1 was at a drive-in event a forum member was hosting.


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