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evil370z 11-12-2014 09:04 AM

2011 m3 coupe or 2015 nismo tech ? , both mt
 
($43K) 2011 white bmw m3 coupe mt, 30k miles, 4.0l V8 414hp, , fully loaded sports package, convince package, competition package, nav, cold weather package etc ..
It says "This M3 includes factory-backed 50,000 Mile Warranty protection for FREE until the end of 2014" , can this warranty be extended through BMW ? ALSO BMW FACTORY WARRANTY IS 4/50K , BUT WHY IS IT SAYING END OF 2014 WHEN 4 YEAR COMES AT THE END OF 2015 ??
only reason I'm kinda concern with this m3 is that the maintenance is too high on these cars ...


or should i get the 2015 white nismo tech new for 44k ?

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Chuck33079 11-12-2014 09:06 AM

Get the Nismo. BMWs break like it's their job.

osbornsm 11-12-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3029162)
Get the Nismo. BMWs break like it's their job.

And lord help you if it's out of free-maint-world. The upkeep on a Bimmer is just dumb. 1700 for this... 1200 for this...

evil370z 11-12-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3029162)
Get the Nismo. BMWs break like it's their job.

thats what i was thinking, it had 2 previous owners and its at 30k miles, i think it was a lease or something.

Chuck33079 11-12-2014 09:12 AM

OP, the reason that M3 is available is that smart people dump their BMWs at 30k miles.

evil370z 11-12-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3029168)
OP, the reason that M3 is available is that smart people dump their BMWs at 30k miles.

i said the same thing to my friend yesterday lol, the cost of owning this car is too high, i just needed peoples opinion but yeah i think ill stick to the nismo.

edub370 11-12-2014 09:15 AM

m3

dant1127 11-12-2014 09:55 AM

To put BMW money into perspective, I recently fixed up (flipped?) a 90's 740iL with valve cover gaskets, battery, alternator, minor hoses, oil change, spark plugs, 2 or 3 sensors, and a few small parts. Did all the labor myself, bought relatively inexpensive parts. Spent over $2,500. This is an old car with relatively simple/cheap electronics. Most cars that need this sort of minor work cost me around $450.

Hardly apples-to-apples, but for basic high-mileage maintenance this should paint some sort of a picture for you.

Even on a bad Z with every common issue being fixed out of warranty, I would wager that you would still be spending less on the Z.

PS. Do you still have to drop the engine to replace an M-series alternator?

Mt Tam I am 11-12-2014 10:03 AM

OP the BMW is terrific. If you picked a 2011 Z you would still have plenty of money to make even more out of it.

Good luck no matter what you decided.

vividracing 11-12-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3029168)
OP, the reason that M3 is available is that smart people dump their BMWs at 30k miles.

Actually, it's probably because BMW does so many leases and around 30K is usually a pretty standard mileage allowance. So, in this case, you get a car with low mileage, that you know was taken care of because of the free maintenance they provide on new vehicles. I would go with the M3. More power, a back seat (even if it is small, its a practical thing to have), the V8 sound, and in my opinion, more fun to drive.

Chuck33079 11-12-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 3029241)
Actually, it's probably because BMW does so many leases and around 30K is usually a pretty standard mileage allowance. So, in this case, you get a car with low mileage, that you know was taken care of because of the free maintenance they provide on new vehicles. I would go with the M3. More power, a back seat (even if it is small, its a practical thing to have), the V8 sound, and in my opinion, more fun to drive.

So, the car that was unreliable to begin with gets beat like a dog for 30k miles? And you're recommending he buy it? Wow.

vividracing 11-12-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3029260)
So, the car that was unreliable to begin with gets beat like a dog for 30k miles? And you're recommending he buy it? Wow.

Actually, the BMW E92 M3 is one of the most reliable cars BMW ever built. As a matter of fact, We actually have an employee on staff with an '11 M3 with DCT. He beats the living crap out of the car all day every day. Drives it harder than 95% of M3 owners. 71k on the clock. He's finally getting to use his extended warranty. For his amp and subwoofer. Can't break the actual car, but he did blow up the stereo. #winning. :tup:

TerribleONE 11-12-2014 11:12 AM

You are definitely going to be playing with fire err.... money with the BMW. I would pick the brand new Z with a warranty.

Limeybastard 11-12-2014 11:16 AM

M3 all the way. Once you go M3 its hard to go back trust.

mishuko 11-12-2014 11:17 AM

I think, big assumption here, the 'amazing German' engineering does its special work on the turbo engines. Probably why they switched out the v8 in favor of snails

dant1127 11-12-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 3029265)
Actually, the BMW E92 M3 is one of the most reliable cars BMW ever built.

Not to BMW-bash, because the few I've owned/had the pleasure of driving have been very impressive cars. But.. isn't this sorta like saying you won on "Biggest Loser?"

vividracing 11-12-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3029273)
I think, big assumption here, the 'amazing German' engineering does its special work on the turbo engines. Probably why they switched out the v8 in favor of snails

Their turbo engines have more issues than the V8's though... irony! lol

vividracing 11-12-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dant1127 (Post 3029286)
Not to BMW-bash, because the few I've owned/had the pleasure of driving have been very impressive cars. But.. isn't this sorta like saying you won on "Biggest Loser?"

You do realize that winning the biggest loser gets you a quarter of a million dollars, and probably add a decade onto your life right?? Ill take that prize! hahaha :rofl2:

Shawa 11-12-2014 11:52 AM

I dnt really hate on any sports car, I think the m3 is sick. but in jersey most cars you see in and out of the shop are beamers lol. maybe it's the way we as$hole$ drive idk. my boys brand new 650, 4 months old the tranny blew.

vividracing 11-12-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawa (Post 3029341)
I dnt really hate on any sports car, I think the m3 is sick. but in jersey most cars you see in and out of the shop are beamers lol. maybe it's the way we as$hole$ drive idk. my boys brand new 650, 4 months old the tranny blew.

Thats gotta be a "JOYZEE" (i know you know you to pronounce that Shawa) thing haha :rofl2:

Shawa 11-12-2014 12:01 PM

hahahaha I wouldn't be an official jersey shore douchebag if I didn't

vividracing 11-12-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawa (Post 3029360)
hahahaha I wouldn't be an official jersey shore douchebag if I didn't

HAHAHA! Nice

DOOMMONKEY777 11-12-2014 12:07 PM

I had baaad experience modding a 135i Turbo ed engine, heard bearing clearance problems on v8's. Stock they can hold, but modding will make it fall apart.

6MT-Z34 11-12-2014 12:09 PM

bmw has great engineering, never driven a 6mt m series before but the other manual transmission cars i've driven the bmw 6mt is much better than the z's. Also keep in mind the gas will be more expensive on the m3 than the Z, maybe insurance as well, and like ppl have mentioned maintenance is pretty expensive on a bmw even if nothing brakes down, i would go with the z since i love the fact that it is not as common as a bmw and it has good performance

vividracing 11-12-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777 (Post 3029369)
I had baaad experience modding a 135i Turbo ed engine, heard bearing clearance problems on v8's. Stock they can hold, but modding will make it fall apart.

135i are actually one of the worst care that BMW did, so that's not surprising to hear. With the turbo engines, you are always going to have more that can go wrong. Bearing clearance was an issue, thats true.

7speed 11-12-2014 12:16 PM

For that coin instead of used M3, I would say new BMW 4 series coupe.

njobe89 11-12-2014 12:27 PM

I'd go with the m3... my friends owns one and it's way more fun to drive then my Z. someone mentioned gas, and we get about the same gas mileage.. he usually get 18mpg and i get about 20mpg with my Z. As far as maintenance, it isn't cheap. few months back he had a oil change and had to get break oil changed or something and it was almost $800, but keep in mind that he usually changes his oil once a year. Where as with me in the Z i change it every 2-3 months so in the end it's comes out to be the same thing. Also, he beats on his car every time he drives it and the car has yet to show any sign of breaking down. If i had the money i'd definitely go with the M3.

vividracing 11-12-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 7speed (Post 3029379)
For that coin instead of used M3, I would say new BMW 4 series coupe.

You do realize that you're talking about DOUBLE the price. A used 2010 or 2011 M3 is gonna be around 40K where a new M4 is gonna START at just under 80K. And if we are talking about spending 80K on a sports car, its gonna be the GTR that will be parked in my driveway! :happydance:

dant1127 11-12-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 3029293)
You do realize that winning the biggest loser gets you a quarter of a million dollars, and probably add a decade onto your life right?? Ill take that prize! hahaha :rofl2:

Yeah, but your $250,000 will go mostly to fixing your BMW. And skin removal.

vividracing 11-12-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dant1127 (Post 3029393)
Yeah, but your $250,000 will go mostly to fixing your BMW. And skin removal.

But you cant put a price on spending more time being alive with your friends and family, rather than diabetes and heart failure at 40 years old :tiphat:

zaimer 11-12-2014 12:51 PM

This is a tough one. I've always been a big fan of the M3's. I LOVE the look and sound of the car. I have heard many people say BMW like to fall apart when they get upwards of 50k miles. The maintenance/repairs will obviously be expensive..but as far as that goes I would say the repairs on the Z's aren't all that cheap either :rolleyes:. My biggest issue here is you're deciding between a decently used car vs a brand new one. That M3 is gorgeous but I think I would have to go with the new Z. It's brand new=no one has driven it, zero miles, FULL warranty. I don't think I could justify spending 50k on a car that will be 4 years old and has 30k miles on it. :driving:

7speed 11-12-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 3029390)
You do realize that you're talking about DOUBLE the price. A used 2010 or 2011 M3 is gonna be around 40K where a new M4 is gonna START at just under 80K. And if we are talking about spending 80K on a sports car, its gonna be the GTR that will be parked in my driveway! :happydance:

For 80K definitely but I was talking 428 or specifically 435, not the M.

Base M "starts"
M4 Coupe
Starting at $64,200 MSRP
26 mpg hwy*
425 horsepower

njobe89 11-12-2014 02:18 PM

every M looks nice, i love the M5 or the x6 M :yum: :yum:

KittenMittens 11-12-2014 02:43 PM

Dat M Mode!

I vote m3.

DLSTR 11-12-2014 03:03 PM

Drive both and decide. Why did you ask the forum. You will get what you get - Useless mostly uninformed opinions from people like me who have never owned an M3.
I have a M235i but its not what you are asking about. I love my new BMW and my neighbor loves his new Mercedes. We all love new cars. What you do like or love is all that matters. Go drive it.

dant1127 11-12-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 3029554)
Why did you ask the forum.

The only logical answer; the OP wanted us to barrage him or her with pro-Z sentiment, justifying his or her decision to buy a 370.

Or, the OP is bored and wanted to star a flame war.

Either way, I sat go with the BMW. The fewer Z owners, the better. They're clearly all insane.

vividracing 11-12-2014 03:41 PM

:icon18:

kenchan 11-12-2014 03:44 PM

yah, get the bimmer.

and leave us Z folks alone. :icon17:

6MT-Z34 11-12-2014 03:45 PM

Lol this reminds me of a Minsu thread where ppl asked him to go buy the camaro instead haha

vividracing 11-12-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3029611)
yah, get the bimmer.

and leave us Z folks alone. :icon17:

Reverse psychology?? :rofl2:


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