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Originally Posted by bvl Lot of reliability comments from those who...don't own a BMW. Hmmm. OP you are getting into zee germans who, over the life of the car, statistically

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Old 11-17-2014, 12:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lot of reliability comments from those who...don't own a BMW. Hmmm.

OP you are getting into zee germans who, over the life of the car, statistically will cost more to own then Japanese makes. They also come with a higher price like for like.

The /// is a very well sorted out car with more tech then a Z: its going to be more, so the apples are not quite there in the comparison but I get it. To me the real comparison is against a 987.2 low mile Cayman S. The /// is a fantastic coupe with an engine sound that is unique and can't be replicated in a Z car. It also gets worse MPG then the Z which is not easy to do

I own a E90 335d, at 54K now. Not a /// but most of the car is similar in terms of the packages I have. I am waiting around for a carbon cleaning issue that is known and will cost me out of warranty, 1200-1800.

Just like I am waiting for the CSC to fail on my Z for a cost of what...1200 to fix?

Everything has some risk, it just depends how risk averse you are.

IMHO the NISMO looks fantastic if you want the sports car look. If you want to blend in more with traffic, look for a well sorted out /// or even 335is (they are harder to find but will be a tad less expensive and the N54 is sorted out by then)

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Old 11-17-2014, 01:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Honestly if your concerned about maintenance cost then the M3 is not for you.
Im a BMW fan for the most part one of the best Ive own is a E46 M3.
But the cost to keep it long term is tearing my wallet upside down.

I never had any breakdown with my BMW just had it for regular maintenance up keep. The price of parts and labor at the dealership is outrageous.

The same reason why most premium brands like this car are only good for Lease.

Since the M3 is already at 30k miles by 40 to 50k miles you will be changing a lot of fluids and filters, brake pads. Etc.

If you can afford an extended warranty up to 75 or 100k miles which Im not sure if they offer such here in the US.

By all means the M3 is the best choice. It depends on what lifestyle you want to project. If you are working in any corporate job that involves sales or marketing/real state.
The BMW fits your outfit. Makes you close more deals.

My 2 cents.
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Im a BMW fan for the most part one of the best Ive own is a E46 M3.
But the cost to keep it long term is tearing my wallet upside down.


By all means the M3 is the best choice. It depends on what lifestyle you want to project. If you are working in any corporate job that involves sales or marketing/real state.
The BMW fits your outfit. Makes you close more deals.

My 2 cents.
I too think that the e46 M3 is the best one. The e92 is a bit too soft. However, the e46 M3 is expensive to keep. I have to replace bunch of stuffs with less than 50k miles and most repair was $500+. Probably one of the best inline 6, but the vano is problematic. Much like the IMS problems with the Porsche 997.1 and 996, it can grenade the engine.

In term of lifestyle, it is so subjective that you can't put a price tag on it.

As for the OP, I think just check out both and buy the one the make you happy.
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Yeah well you get better fuel then we do even if it is almost 2x the cost. US cars are extremely loved by the enthusiast owners but CBU seems to be more of a reality.

I have dreams of out of warranty, EGR/DPF removal and 500+ ft-lbs at 40 MPG. You EU folks get that out of the box :P

I don't regret the purchase and am fortunate that my job reimburses me for mileage so the cost of repairs don't hurt as much. Its about the perfect cruising/commuting car out there for me. I just wish CBU would go away

That's why for most folks, the gas 335 is the better option in the states.

And to circle back to the OP, the sound of the /// is really almost worth the price of admission if you are into tickling the ear pussy.

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Yeah well you get better fuel then we do even if it is almost 2x the cost. US cars are extremely loved by the enthusiast owners but CBU seems to be more of a reality.

I have dreams of out of warranty, EGR/DPF removal and 500+ ft-lbs at 40 MPG. You EU folks get that out of the box :P

I don't regret the purchase and am fortunate that my job reimburses me for mileage so the cost of repairs don't hurt as much. Its about the perfect cruising/commuting car out there for me. I just wish CBU would go away

That's why for most folks, the gas 335 is the better option in the states.

And to circle back to the OP, the sound of the /// is really almost worth the price of admission if you are into tickling the ear pussy.

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Yeah, well. I live here stateside now so no "D" loving for me. Most the cops back in UK drive the 535d. 335d is a fantastic machine.
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Buy the car you want to drive. Period.

Drive the M3. Is it the car you want given the maintenance etc etc?? Again asking us only goes so far. You only live once so live. Decide what matters to you and move out. I could care less what anyone thinks here of my ride.
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I say neither one, do your research on whatever car you actually want regardless of our opinions... Some cars you really have to want to own considering the pros and cons that come with them. If you want practicality for your money get the ℤ but if you want a sports car with a back seat and luxurious amenities get the m3 just know what to expect. The ℤ is not a good daily, mine is a daily but it's what I wanted.
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I've had the pleasure of having a 09 335xi... it's not fun with the repairs.

I will credit the driving experience as hella-fun but the repairs and headaches caused were hella-annoying.

I would never buy a used turbo BMW.... in fact if I ever wanted a German car with my limited income I would lease so I can get rid of it after 3-4 years hassle free... kinda...
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Brand New vs Used should really be the topic on this. M3's are bad *** cars, no question there, but would you really take a used M3 which is not the current model over a New untouched, current model Nismo that some haven't even seen on the streets yet? The choice is yours, you win win either way, but the choice should be pretty clear from this prospective.
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Depends on whether you want to attract women who think you have money or women who like sports cars. There's definitely less in that second group, but we all know that the ladies who are into the 370Z are the coolest chicks on the planet (doubly-so for those who drive one).
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Depends on whether you want to attract women who think you have money or women who like sports cars. There's definitely less in that second group, but we all know that the ladies who are into the 370Z are the coolest chicks on the planet (doubly-so for those who drive one).
if a woman is attracted to the car, i wouldn't want her but for one night.
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My buddy just had his 2011 M3 bought back from BMW nuff said

I used to work a mechanic and I would never buy a used german car
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I've owned a BMW for the past 12 years and currently drive one and would agree, don't get the bimmer if you cannot get an extended warranty. I've had my share of "unreliable" bimmer's but then again I've also had very reliable ones. My current 335is has only had two issues in the past 4 years, one was the lifters in the trunk squeaking and was a two minute fix and the other was vibrations in the car which turned out to be a lose oil cooler hose that came free of the guide mount (not spilling mind you) and was touching the chassis causing vibrations. Again, an easy fix. Aside from that it's been rock solid and still going strong.

Another thing about bimmers that most may not know. BMW takes care of you, literally. During the first 4yrs/50k they will do anything and everything to upkeep the car from free oil changes, to new wipers every year to even topping off your washer fluid. And, if your car is ever in the shop they will give you a brand new loaner until they fix it. Here's the best part, even if you're past the warranty they will still fix any major problems for at least one full year under "good will". This is of course if you purchased the car new and are the original owner.

BMW's are not the most reliable but neither are many of the JDM vehicles as of late. They have their fair share of issues and recalls. My brothers Acura which is only a few years old had to have it's entire transmission replaced due to a defect.

As far as maintaining the car outside of warranty, you can get parts online for less and find a good indy shop to do the work but as others have said you will pay more than on say a Z. After all, it's still German "luxury" car. Get what you like and can afford, but most importantly be smart about your purchase. Good luck.
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I've owned a BMW for the past 12 years and currently drive one and would agree, don't get the bimmer if you cannot get an extended warranty. I've had my share of "unreliable" bimmer's but then again I've also had very reliable ones. My current 335is has only had two issues in the past 4 years, one was the lifters in the trunk squeaking and was a two minute fix and the other was vibrations in the car which turned out to be a lose oil cooler hose that came free of the guide mount (not spilling mind you) and was touching the chassis causing vibrations. Again, an easy fix. Aside from that it's been rock solid and still going strong.

Another thing about bimmers that most may not know. BMW takes care of you, literally. During the first 4yrs/50k they will do anything and everything to upkeep the car from free oil changes, to new wipers every year to even topping off your washer fluid. And, if your car is ever in the shop they will give you a brand new loaner until they fix it. Here's the best part, even if you're past the warranty they will still fix any major problems for at least one full year under "good will". This is of course if you purchased the car new and are the original owner.

BMW's are not the most reliable but neither are many of the JDM vehicles as of late. They have their fair share of issues and recalls. My brothers Acura which is only a few years old had to have it's entire transmission replaced due to a defect.

As far as maintaining the car outside of warranty, you can get parts online for less and find a good indy shop to do the work but as others have said you will pay more than on say a Z. After all, it's still German "luxury" car. Get what you like and can afford, but most importantly be smart about your purchase. Good luck.
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Guys... the OP tapped out over a month ago.
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