VERY CONFLICTED: 07'-08' 335i coupe vs New 370z

>135I · 10-08-2009, 09:32 AM

Actually if you look at the numbers the 335I is slower than the 370z, the 335i and 135i use the same engine and if the 370Z and 135i tie is just about everything but handling. then the heavier 335i would actually be slower. So if you want lux then go with 335i, if you want sport go with 370z, if you want a conbination with a little more lux and a little less sport then go with 135i.
I have driven both the 370Z and the 135i. Those were the two cars I was trying to choose from. Personally I like the drive, ride and sound of the sporty 370Z..

05G356MT · 10-08-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by >135I

So if you want lux then go with 335i, if you want sport go with 370z, if you want a conbination with a little more lux and a little less sport then go with 135i.

You forgot to add ugly

ianthegreat · 10-08-2009, 02:07 PM

OP: Congrats!

I used to think the 135's were fugly. But more and more people are modding them and they are starting to grow on me. Oh noes!

F430Spider · 10-08-2009, 04:50 PM

Lol im 17 y/o

>135I · 10-10-2009, 11:16 AM

If you plan on modding the car then yes I think the 135i would be the best way to go. I had a buddy of mine purchase the 135i put $800 into a new chip and now he is pushing like 400whp and 380 tq.

chuckd05 · 11-13-2009, 12:45 AM

the op said he was getting a Z but i see in his pics he has a 335i, a different one than he posted that he got on the bmw forums though, lol...

sinceday1 · 11-13-2009, 01:18 AM

I'm sorry ... but
VERY CONFLICTED: Conclusion - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - E90Post.com
this .. for Z?....

Trips · 11-13-2009, 01:59 AM

8 pages of what flavor ice cream's better Pistachio or chocolate chip! Lol

gnarf · 11-13-2009, 06:18 AM

i still wouldnt get a 335/135..those cars are everywhere and i only see 400-450whp as their max...reliability is a concern..and even if you have that much power, they would probably still get smoked by a bolt on Z on a track with turns..considering the fact that a 3 liter twin turbo is making 300 hp is not impressive at all...there are better motors out there...LSX, VQ/VR, the S4's new motor, even the Evo's alum block is impressive...a VQ with twin turbo, although quite expensive is way above the level of the 135s/335s limits...

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ops he already picked his car..well in that case..enjoy it to your fullest...

05G356MT · 11-13-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gnarf

i still wouldnt get a 335/135..those cars are everywhere and i only see 400-450whp as their max...reliability is a concern..and even if you have that much power, they would probably still get smoked by a bolt on Z on a track with turns..considering the fact that a 3 liter twin turbo is making 300 hp is not impressive at all...there are better motors out there...LSX, VQ/VR, the S4's new motor, even the Evo's alum block is impressive...a VQ with twin turbo, although quite expensive is way above the level of the 135s/335s limits...

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ops he already picked his car..well in that case..enjoy it to your fullest...

400-450 is the max for full bolt-ons + meth on stock turbo's. There is a company that released a turbo upgrade that's in the 500's but like you said, reliability would be a huge issue after a turbo upgrade especially since they're already non-reliable, IMO.

I'll disagree with you for sake of debate about a 3.0l TT making 300hp/300tq not being impressive. Also, BMW underrated that motor and lots of people have dyno'd 280ish stock. Given the 15% drivetrain loss, that motor should've been rated some where around 330ish at the crank.

The VQ isn't impressive either IMO (330hp for 3.7l, no DI, i'll say overrated hp/tq #'s), the S4 motor hasn't even been out long enough to see where it stands let alone see it's limits, the LS and 4G/B motors are bullet proof as well as the VR.

Which VQ are you talking about? 35DE/35HR/37HR? Because I can tell you a TT VQ35DE is probably one of the most unreliable set ups on a stock motor. IIRC, they haven't tested out the limit of the 35HR/37HR but most tuners stop around 500-550ish for safety purposes and IMO that's its limit before having to build.

Red370 · 11-13-2009, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 05G356MT

The VQ isn't impressive either IMO (330hp for 3.7l, no DI, i'll say overrated hp/tq #'s), the S4 motor hasn't even been out long enough to see where it stands let alone see it's limits, the LS and 4G/B motors are bullet proof as well as the VR.

Surely you jest

Last time I checked, a 3.7L making 332, vs. a 4.6L V8 making 310.... apples to oranges, got it, but 332 is almost at the peak for a naturally aspirated V6, DO NOT say those numbers arent impressive, I think they're quite good.

05G356MT · 11-13-2009, 08:39 AM

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Surely you jest

Last time I checked, a 3.7L making 332, vs. a 4.6L V8 making 310.... apples to oranges, got it, but 332 is almost at the peak for a naturally aspirated V6, DO NOT say those numbers arent impressive, I think they're quite good.

Like I said, IMO it isn't impressive, obviously your opinion differs. Who said anything about a mustang? Also, BMW made 333hp off of a 3.2l with DI back in 2001...there is a reason why the VQ motor didn't make it on Wards Top 10 Best Engines this year. Also, he's talking about the NEW S4 motor the supercharged 3.0 V6 not the B7 S4 engine.

370Zsteve · 11-13-2009, 10:19 AM

I don't understand why this thread isn't a Z4 vs 370Z thread. If you are having a conflict of 335i vs 370Z, I say go for the 335i, you'll be happy in the end. My

xfrgtr · 11-13-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

Surely you jest

Last time I checked, a 3.7L making 332, vs. a 4.6L V8 making 310.... apples to oranges, got it, but 332 is almost at the peak for a naturally aspirated V6, DO NOT say those numbers arent impressive, I think they're quite good.

MightyBobo · 11-13-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

Surely you jest

Last time I checked, a 3.7L making 332, vs. a 4.6L V8 making 310.... apples to oranges, got it, but 332 is almost at the peak for a naturally aspirated V6, DO NOT say those numbers arent impressive, I think they're quite good.

Whoa whoa whoa...while I will say that 332 isnt too shabby for a 3.7L V6...trying to compare it to the 4.6L V8 in the Mustang is a horrible choice. Its efficiency is a joke, and Ford has realized that. That's why the 5.0's coming back out again, and should be in the ~400 HP range.

I also wouldn't say that 332 hp is the "peak" for a V6, either...there are plenty of new technologies to be found and/or utilized. Lets not even go into the fact that Porsche's GT3 makes 435 HP with a measly 3.8L...a single tenth more than us, yet over 100 HP more...

Just food for thought

10-08-2009, 09:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
>135I Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Radcliff, KY Age: 44 Posts: 409 Drives: 2003 Cobra Rep Power: 18	Actually if you look at the numbers the 335I is slower than the 370z, the 335i and 135i use the same engine and if the 370Z and 135i tie is just about everything but handling. then the heavier 335i would actually be slower. So if you want lux then go with 335i, if you want sport go with 370z, if you want a conbination with a little more lux and a little less sport then go with 135i. I have driven both the 370Z and the 135i. Those were the two cars I was trying to choose from. Personally I like the drive, ride and sound of the sporty 370Z.. __________________ I will miss my Z. I hope she goes to a good home.

10-08-2009, 02:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
ianthegreat Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: TEXAS Posts: 171 Drives: 08 335i, 86 Ranger Rep Power: 18	OP: Congrats! I used to think the 135's were fugly. But more and more people are modding them and they are starting to grow on me. Oh noes! Last edited by ianthegreat; 10-08-2009 at 02:12 PM.

10-10-2009, 11:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
>135I Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Radcliff, KY Age: 44 Posts: 409 Drives: 2003 Cobra Rep Power: 18	If you plan on modding the car then yes I think the 135i would be the best way to go. I had a buddy of mine purchase the 135i put $800 into a new chip and now he is pushing like 400whp and 380 tq. __________________ I will miss my Z. I hope she goes to a good home.

11-13-2009, 12:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 21	the op said he was getting a Z but i see in his pics he has a 335i, a different one than he posted that he got on the bmw forums though, lol... __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 11-13-2009 at 12:26 PM.

11-13-2009, 01:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
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10-08-2009, 04:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
F430Spider Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto Age: 34 Posts: 19 Drives: 09 Civic Si Coupe Rep Power: 375	Lol im 17 y/o

11-13-2009, 01:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
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11-13-2009, 06:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
gnarf Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 160 Drives: G37 Rep Power: 18	i still wouldnt get a 335/135..those cars are everywhere and i only see 400-450whp as their max...reliability is a concern..and even if you have that much power, they would probably still get smoked by a bolt on Z on a track with turns..considering the fact that a 3 liter twin turbo is making 300 hp is not impressive at all...there are better motors out there...LSX, VQ/VR, the S4's new motor, even the Evo's alum block is impressive...a VQ with twin turbo, although quite expensive is way above the level of the 135s/335s limits... editops he already picked his car..well in that case..enjoy it to your fullest... Last edited by gnarf; 11-13-2009 at 06:25 AM.

11-13-2009, 10:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 44	I don't understand why this thread isn't a Z4 vs 370Z thread. If you are having a conflict of 335i vs 370Z, I say go for the 335i, you'll be happy in the end. My __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

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