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jyhighsky 10-05-2009 07:45 AM

fyi i go to UCI, no one has the damn car. I saw maybe one and he didn't look like a college student. Lot's of 335i's, tuned ones too.. 335i's are well over 15 grand more expensive than a Z.

I personally would choose the 335i's because I have driven both, and felt the 335i was much more well rounded for a guy my size. Plus two extra seats, a bigger boot, and speed that can be jacked to m6 territory, I would easily grab that car if money were no issue.

Red370 10-05-2009 08:09 AM

did we just get like, 5 new members from the BMW forums just to defend their car? lol. :roflpuke2:

stock 335i doing 11's? coughs...bullshyt...

rated at a 13.5, with some hitting 13.4, Z's stock are doing 13.2's all day. The Z is the faster car, sorry to crush your dreams fellas.
2007 BMW 335i Sedan - Short Take Road Test - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver

oh and BTW, I shat upon one at the drags this past sunday, will post vid/pics in the media section.

Also if i may add, BMW is not the luxury car of yesteryear anymore, your average every day joe schmoe college kid can afford one nowadays, especially since BMW lowered pricing on the majority of their models to compensate for the struggling german/american economy. Nice cars though they are, they just arent what they used to be anymore.

And if i may add something else.. the Vishnu program instantly voids your warranty, the stock ECU senses when its tampered with and will happily rat you out at your next service. So go ahead, void your warranty, and good luck with maintenence and upkeep.

RatedZ 10-05-2009 08:54 AM

I don't own either car, a 335i or a 370Z, but who cares about image? If you like a car, buy the car. The only person it has to impress is YOU.

For me, the only image that matters to me is the one I'm thinking about in my head, and that's me being behind the wheel, hanging the *** out, and loving the driving experience. Hell, look at the cars I own. One of them gets called a "mullet mobile" on a weekly basis, while the other one continuously gets called a "ricer." Know what? I guess I'm a ricer with a mullet, and I really don't care, because in the end, I have a straight-line sledgehammer and a "canyon carver."

I never understood the whole, "What kind of image I would be portraying" thing. Maybe I'm wrong, but I always thought that "image" was based on personal hygiene and the way one carried himself/herself, NOT by the car one drove.

kenchan 10-05-2009 11:55 AM

if i was comparing a bimmer to the 370z, it would be the 135i.

135i's are werd looking. their powerplant is fabulous though...
while it works. :rolleyes:

theDreamer 10-05-2009 12:01 PM

mmmm...popcorn after lunch, love it.

:drama:

theDreamer 10-05-2009 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowess Sym (Post 222713)
The sig system on this forum is crap, or Id post my sig showing all my mods.

The sig system is designed so we do not have to see a bunch of cr*p all the time. It is a pretty common system on more advanced boards using who prefer to keep things looking "cleaner"

We have a rather healthy section designated for people to share their car information and more, do not need to see if 24/7 in your sig.

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Originally Posted by collinse90 (Post 222736)
the 7 from e90post are looking out for your finances, which is why they drive a bmw

Really? So a specific forum on X car is being more unbiased. Not saying the Z board here is going to give an unbiased answer or "look out for your finances," but that is a very pathetic reason.

nogoodname 10-05-2009 12:28 PM

why is that when threads like this are made, all the trolls start poppin out of nowhere....lol.... like rat traps

shabarivas 10-05-2009 01:36 PM

LOL... Hmm I wonder how many folks felt insecure enough in their purchase to not only take the time of day to make an account here but also bash the forum lol... my count so far is at 5...

Seriously tho - they are both sick cars... need a back seat? like a stock turbo? get the bimmer... dont care for the "luxuries" and want a nimble car for the curves on the road - get the Z...

If you care about straight line speed - and you are going to spend < 8k on your car overall -- get the bimmer ... if you are going to spend more get the Z as once they are both FI'd its all about who spends more money and time on their car..

If you are going to keep them stock - its a wash - drive em and pick em...

/Thread

TL370Z 10-05-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ (Post 222912)
I don't own either car, a 335i or a 370Z, but who cares about image? If you like a car, buy the car. The only person it has to impress is YOU.

For me, the only image that matters to me is the one I'm thinking about in my head, and that's me being behind the wheel, hanging the *** out, and loving the driving experience. Hell, look at the cars I own. One of them gets called a "mullet mobile" on a weekly basis, while the other one continuously gets called a "ricer." Know what? I guess I'm a ricer with a mullet, and I really don't care, because in the end, I have a straight-line sledgehammer and a "canyon carver."

I never understood the whole, "What kind of image I would be portraying" thing. Maybe I'm wrong, but I always thought that "image" was based on personal hygiene and the way one carried himself/herself, NOT by the car one drove.


A lot of people get cars for image. That's one of many reasons to buy a car... It's not wrong. Why buy a Movado watch when you can buy a Fossil or Swiss? Why buy an LV bag when you can buy any other kind of bag? etc. etc. you get my drift, people want to be portrayed as this or that possibly.

akburst510 10-05-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 223193)
why is that when threads like this are made, all the trolls start poppin out of nowhere....lol.... like rat traps

Well I did link the forums/discussions together... It's only natural that someone who loves their car defend it in enemy territory. Seems like BMW guys are much more fanatical about their cars, since none of you 370zrs decided to join the other forum.

It is childish, I know, but it's a pro IMO for the 335i.

Brizzie 10-05-2009 02:14 PM

go for tha Z, 335 is old to me, plus u dnt need back seats
:ughdance:

FricFrac 10-05-2009 02:30 PM

LOL - too funny. Someone obviously posted a link from some Beemer thread to this one ;) I think its funny when a troll posts he drive's a 370Z and drives something else...

Anyhow what I would suggest is keep the Accord and finish school. Buy a house. Once you are financially secure then get your toys. Most of the people I knew who went out and bought their toys when they could barely afford them are still renting and I doubt they'll ever own their own place.

That being said... if I was looking for a 4 seater I'd get an '07-08 G35 but I wasn't so I got the 370Z. But really who cares what I got - go test drive both cars! You'll figure it out pretty quick. I think the best test drive ever would be to take the car to a track/autocross and drive the nuts off both of them. That's the only thing that shows you how the car really performs.

akburst510 10-05-2009 02:32 PM

I am leaning to the 370z, but man o man was that a hard choice. Each car has it's own merits, and each car is a good choice. I am going with the 370z simply because I can get it new and make it my baby, not adopt someone else's.

theDreamer 10-05-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by akburst510 (Post 223286)
Well I did link the forums/discussions together... It's only natural that someone who loves their car defend it in enemy territory. Seems like BMW guys are much more fanatical about their cars, since none of you 370zrs decided to join the other forum.

It is childish, I know, but it's a pro IMO for the 335i.

Fanatical?
So having free time to go around the internet to another forum which has nothing to do with your car and begin posting. Sorry, but I have time to enjoy my car and share my wisdom with others on the Z boards here. No need to jump around to BMW/GM/Ford/etc. forums and look for threads about the Z and defend it.

I think there has been plenty talked about here, really, just go test drive both and pick one. No one here can make that choice for you or should ever pick for you, it is your car & money.

RatedZ 10-05-2009 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tl370z (Post 223268)
a lot of people get cars for image. That's one of many reasons to buy a car... It's not wrong. Why buy a movado watch when you can buy a fossil or swiss? Why buy an lv bag when you can buy any other kind of bag? Etc. Etc. You get my drift, people want to be portrayed as this or that possibly.

Quality. That's why I would buy a Movado over a Fossil. It's the same reason I bought my wife a Coach purse instead of a Liz Claiborne. Sure, the image comes with it, but so does the quality.

F430Spider 10-05-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 222458)
What is it with all these people who can't handle a bit of decibels. The Z is a sports car not a bloody Lincoln. When you drive a sports car you want to feel it. I am sure a Ferrari or lambo etc are not Lexus like either. you are also paying for the raw, non clinical feel of the Z. Why would you want to ber driving a sports car that sounds and feels like a Camry, apparently there are lot of girly men here.


Funny coming from a miata driver. :eek:

molamann 10-05-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by F430Spider (Post 223451)
Funny coming from a miata driver. :eek:

First post and you're dissing a man's car?

Singularity 10-05-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by F430Spider (Post 223451)
Funny coming from a miata driver. :eek:


An Si driver poking fun at a Miata driver in a 370Z forum? Good times lol.

OP: I had a feeling you'd be more comfortable with something new rather than pre-owned. I'm the same way, almost to a fault.

ianthegreat 10-05-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 222885)
did we just get like, 5 new members from the BMW forums just to defend their car? lol. :roflpuke2:

stock 335i doing 11's? coughs...bullshyt...

rated at a 13.5, with some hitting 13.4, Z's stock are doing 13.2's all day. The Z is the faster car, sorry to crush your dreams fellas.
2007 BMW 335i Sedan - Short Take Road Test - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver

oh and BTW, I shat upon one at the drags this past sunday, will post vid/pics in the media section.

I've run 13.1 stock w/ the excellent RFT's at the HRP track. It's not impossible, but i digress.. caranddriver is the end all be all.

And of course the 11.3 second pass was not a stock car. I posted the quickest 370z pass to date, which is 12.8 (and also not stock).

The 11.7 (former record) was run tune only by a 335i. $500~ mod.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 222885)
And if i may add something else.. the Vishnu program instantly voids your warranty, the stock ECU senses when its tampered with and will happily rat you out at your next service. So go ahead, void your warranty, and good luck with maintenence and upkeep.

I like when this topic comes up. Vishnu is one of many tuning companies by the way (and not the largest).

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 222885)
the Vishnu program instantly voids your warranty

Nothing instantly voids a warranty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 222885)
the stock ECU senses when its tampered with and will happily rat you out at your next service

The ECU has no idea (when shut down properly) that anything has been done to it. Are you talking about flashes? Which is becoming more popular in the e92 community now.

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 222885)
So go ahead, void your warranty, and good luck with maintenence and upkeep.

I'm at 30,000 miles without a single maintenance issue.


I'm not trying to argue, but to dispell the common bs/myths that regard these cars in general. As seen, I dealt with nicknick earlier.

nicknick 10-05-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by F430Spider (Post 223451)
Funny coming from a miata driver. :eek:

don't know what it is like in USA but here in Aus, mostly men drive mx5's and curiosly I have noticed a large chunk of women driving cars like z4 and slk's etc. I guess the mx5 is a little too raw. BTW i am married. mx5 is a girls car=myth, go drive a new one and see. anyway hope you could see past your childish observation and understand what I was getting at. Saving to buy a Zed

nicknick 10-05-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ianthegreat (Post 222698)
Just recently a 370 ran 12.8. Pretty awesome for minimal mods. I think once the turbo/SC options become available the 370 should see some excellent numbers.

The 335i ran an 11.33 just last week.

what a load of crap. in aus 335's don't run numbers like that. obviousl;y you are a young lad imagining and fantazising over a bmw 335. just wait a few years and go get a job that'll help you get there. Oh and why are you trolling this site if all you do is try and mock the Z. Get lost.

RatedZ 10-05-2009 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by molamann (Post 223459)
First post and you're dissing a man's car?

I wonder if that's his "F430 Spider" in his avatar. It looks like a 10 year old Honda Civic Si to me. :happydance:

No reason to be dissing on peoples' rides now.

nicknick 10-05-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blue2fire (Post 222788)
Dear NickNick,

Have you heard the engine in the Nissan?

Driving your Mazda too many times must have caused your ears to malfunction. They make some of the most uninspiring engines ever to grace the earth, their soundtrack is between irritating and just intrusive. Maybe you should use the raw Z as your vibrator, seeing as you are so stuck up and rude toward opinion other than yours. :tiphat:

Read my earleir posts and you will see not only have i heard the z engine i have driven it. this getting tiring, look your bm's are great now go away.

RatedZ 10-05-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 223652)
don't know what it is like in USA but here in Aus, mostly men drive mx5's and curiosly I have noticed a large chunk of women driving cars like z4 and slk's etc. I guess the mx5 is a little too raw. BTW i am married. mx5 is a girls car=myth, go drive a new one and see. anyway hope you could see past your childish observation and understand what I was getting at. Saving to buy a Zed

I've driven an MX5. Is it girlie? I dunno; don't much care, either. I had fun driving it. It was a fun car, but I wished for more power. If I were in the market for an open roadster for my wife and I to tool around in on nice weekends, I don't think I'd count it out. However, I'm not in the market for a car that my wife needs to approve of. I am in the market for a car that is just a "sensory overload," and my time spent behind the wheel of that 370Z was an automotive orgasm. :icon18:

mdbrich 10-05-2009 07:37 PM

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shabarivas 10-05-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blue2fire (Post 222692)
In my humble opinion:
It has an Engine that sounds like Lady Gaga and is as exhilarating as a night out with a transvestite. For sheer fun, you could easily best it. But since it is a Nissan, it will be reliable and that is why the OP should get one.

LMAO .. you can diss the 370s engine noise... but dont you go make generalizations like that about all Zs... the VQ35s engine note made all bmws look like a ******* rc car...

05G356MT 10-05-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ianthegreat (Post 223480)
I've run 13.1 stock w/ the excellent RFT's at the HRP track. It's not impossible, but i digress.. caranddriver is the end all be all.

And of course the 11.3 second pass was not a stock car. I posted the quickest 370z pass to date, which is 12.8 (and also not stock).

The 11.7 (former record) was run tune only by a 335i. $500~ mod.

Care to provide a timeslip/video of your run? I have a hard time believing that you are producing the same time some JB3's owners are pulling especially with stock RFT's. Back when I was researching 335i's capabilities there were only a handful (literally less than 5) that were in the lower 13's stock.

Also the run by Hotrod was on 17's drag radials. It isn't as simple as slapping a $500 mod and running high 11's like how you make it seem.

05G356MT 10-05-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 223656)
what a load of crap. in aus 335's don't run numbers like that. obviousl;y you are a young lad imagining and fantazising over a bmw 335. just wait a few years and go get a job that'll help you get there. Oh and why are you trolling this site if all you do is try and mock the Z. Get lost.

Wow, ignorance is a bliss.

World Record? Stg 3 PROcede 6mt+race gas+meth=123.55mph trap speeds - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - E90Post.com

ianthegreat 10-05-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 223656)
what a load of crap. in aus 335's don't run numbers like that. obviousl;y you are a young lad imagining and fantazising over a bmw 335. just wait a few years and go get a job that'll help you get there. Oh and why are you trolling this site if all you do is try and mock the Z. Get lost.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/1804/larry2.jpg

ianthegreat 10-05-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 05G356MT (Post 223856)

Yes, I think the Procede camp has the highest trap right now while the JB3 camp having the fastest 1/4. There has been a lot happening this last week.

nicknick 10-05-2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ianthegreat (Post 223890)
Yes, I think the Procede camp has the highest trap right now while the JB3 camp having the fastest 1/4. There has been a lot happening this last week.


Mate there is no way a standard bmw 335 would do that, so get your hand off it.

05G356MT 10-05-2009 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 223916)
Mate there is no way a standard bmw 335 would do that, so get your hand off it.

Are you in denial or just misinformed? Search the web there are a handful of 335i's in the 11's with simple bolt ons, radials, meth, etc.

Fast BMW 335is 1/4 Mile 0-60 Drag Racing - DragTimes.com

N54 Drag Times Compilation - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - E90Post.com

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wasabi 10-06-2009 01:04 AM

the bottom line...
 
the 335i is a wonderful car, which is fast, quiet, and refined..

however, there was something primal about getting behind the wheel of a 370z, especially at night. starting with the illuminated door sill with the "z" emblazoned on it, and then the "fighter cockpit" setup, it screams to turn it on. the burble on start-up is nice, the swinging of the tach, and finally the power...

i can imagine how speed racer felt driving the grx...
the z feels powerful.
the 335i feels safe.

for a sportscar, i want powerful...

Emac 10-06-2009 01:34 AM

Was just in a similiar boat, but was comparing the 370z to the 135i. I was completely torn, 50/50. I had a 300zx and then a 350z for a short time and loved both cars. I really was certain I was going to get a 370z but after driving both cars back to back, a couple times, I fell on the side of BMW.

I really wish I could have both cars. What tipped it for me was the torque and "feel" of the BMW, it drives really nicely, great 6MT. The Z has awesome handling, great acceleration and it really feels like a sports car. The tradeoff for me was that it was also a bit claustrophobic (terrible blind spots, but good side mirrors).

You can't go wrong either way, both are going to be a blast to drive. Getting a used car, which is what I did, makes smart financial sense, but having a new car is a nice feeling, especially if it's a sports car, you know nobody has been thrashing it before you got it.

Just pick whatever car you feel more comfortable in and enjoy the most, don't worry about appearances.

akburst510 10-06-2009 01:41 AM

That n54 engine is a beautiful engine. I would prefer it to the VQ37VHR in the 370z...except for that HPFP. It feels smoother and that torque is great for mpg and spirited driving. The VQ37VHR has almost a liter more though and after the warranty expires...I will get to pick what kind of FI to put on it :happydance:. 480whp on that 370z. I think I just fainted.

Trips 10-06-2009 01:59 AM

why are we talking about a 11 sec bmw what's the point do you know apple is an apple and a orange is orange compare equal cars stock for stock. and get over it.

akburst510 10-06-2009 03:37 AM

Wow at the digression. Mostly the BMW guys fault for invading this thread, but partially your guys' fault for feeding them.

The discussion at e90post stayed on point and they seemed to be very honest about their opinions. They were almost even in their choices for what car would better suit me. (I am leaning toward the Nissan at the moment because of THEIR advice). Apparently, they respect the 370z for what it is like many of you guys respect the 335i for what it is.

Considering a new 370z base with sport package. Do not really care what color as they seem to look good in all of them :tup:. Probably will test drive the 370z manual this time and try to get a test drive in a 335i.

:happydance::happydance:

RatedZ 10-06-2009 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by akburst510 (Post 224092)
Wow at the digression. Mostly the BMW guys fault for invading this thread, but partially your guys' fault for feeding them.

The discussion at e90post stayed on point and they seemed to be very honest about their opinions. They were almost even in their choices for what car would better suit me. (I am leaning toward the Nissan at the moment because of THEIR advice). Apparently, they respect the 370z for what it is like many of you guys respect the 335i for what it is.

Considering a new 370z base with sport package. Do not really care what color as they seem to look good in all of them :tup:. Probably will test drive the 370z manual this time and try to get a test drive in a 335i.

:happydance::happydance:

Not sure if you've driven any 370Z yet, but the experience is...purely sexual. :icon18:

Ok, seriously, the 370Z is an amazing machine. Since driving one, I am an official 370Z nutswinger. :nutswinger:

05G356MT 10-06-2009 07:39 AM

If you're looking for a "drivers" car go with the 370z after all it is a true sports car. If you're looking for a nice daily driver that can handle it's own and feels like the closest thing to a sports car take the 335i.

Personally, I would take a 335i in a heartbeat over a 370z. I'd rather have a nice DD with more creature comforts than a potent sports car like the 370z (which is why I got the G instead of the Z). Being in college you also can't ignore the fact that maintenance is free for the first 4yrs/50,000 in the BMW which is a great plus.

ianthegreat 10-06-2009 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akburst510 (Post 224092)
Wow at the digression. Mostly the BMW guys fault for invading this thread, but partially your guys' fault for feeding them.

The discussion at e90post stayed on point and they seemed to be very honest about their opinions. They were almost even in their choices for what car would better suit me. (I am leaning toward the Nissan at the moment because of THEIR advice). Apparently, they respect the 370z for what it is like many of you guys respect the 335i for what it is.

Considering a new 370z base with sport package. Do not really care what color as they seem to look good in all of them :tup:. Probably will test drive the 370z manual this time and try to get a test drive in a 335i.

:happydance::happydance:

Definitely drive both and go with your gut feeling. I had to go to 2 different BMW dealerships before they would let me test drive one without the salesman in the car. Even though I've graduated, I guess they still didn't think I was serious about purchasing. The dealership I ended up with treated me like royalty. During my service intervals (15k, 30k) they were accomodating towards my work schedule by picking me up, dropping me off, allowing a loaner on short notice if circumstances warranted, etc.. etc.. I've never considered service in a buying decision, but from here on out it will play a large role.

Enjoy and good luck! :tup:


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