Crashed - Need Advice

JoeD · 10-04-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname

also, airbag being deployed does not mean the its totalled

Not in and of itself, but enough damage to cause the air-bag(s) to deploy and the cost of a new SRS system on top of all the other damage needed to be repaired helps significantly. More often than not, if the air-bags go off...there is frame-damage.

nogoodname · 10-04-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

Not in and of itself, but enough damage to cause the air-bag(s) to deploy and the cost of a new SRS system on top of all the other damage needed to be repaired helps significantly. More often than not, if the air-bags go off...there is frame-damage.

what i meant is that saying right off the bat it's totaled based on the airbag being deployed is not always right.....

that saying came from when airbags are deployed, something is obviously smashed....

Jason · 10-04-2009, 04:22 PM

The car didn't stop and I wasn't going fast. Definitely under 20mph but I hit the rail pretty hard due to how fast the other guy was going. He barely tapped me too (no homo). Car has 3000 miles. The car doesn't look nearly as bad as it probably sounds. I'm saying maybe totaled because I think everything including the airbag will add up quick. I'm sure the car will be nearly perfect after it's fixed but I'd rather get a new one. I only owe $10k so I don't have gap. I think I have new car replacement on my policy so totaled might benefit me. And no, it didn't happen on the 400 mile trip. Lol.

I'll try to get pics later..

DooDooBrown · 10-04-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

Not in and of itself, but enough damage to cause the air-bag(s) to deploy and the cost of a new SRS system on top of all the other damage needed to be repaired helps significantly. More often than not, if the air-bags go off...there is frame-damage.

That, good sir, is false. As a firefighter in the metro DC area, I can honestly say that there are certainly some wrecks where there are frame damage, but the majority of them do not incorperate frame damage. It only takes 30mph of sudden deacceleration on most makes and models for deployment to occur. Frame damage at 30 mph? Possible, but probably not enough to total the car. Air bags are extremely expensive now because 1). The manufactor has to insure that it will actually work, and there is huge liability insurance that goes into making them... And 2). They use expensive metals to insure the detonation process, and have a very speific mixture of powders that chemically react to actually inflate the bag....

Jason · 10-04-2009, 06:34 PM

hood, bumper, lh fender, chin spoiler, underbody plastic, wheel/tire. the a pillar might need to be repainted on the passenger side since the hood touches it and peeled some paint. the hood latch area is all bent and crap is all over the place on that corner.

rear bumper needs paint, quarter panel needs pdr

not really sure how this happened since there was no passenger. the passenger seatbelt is locked hard, like theres no way to pull slack from it. it's stuck (pretensioner maybe?) it ripped through the plastic and there's a hole in it (note my "wtf" confusion). the plastic cap that goes on the bolt popped off. on the drivers side seatbelt, there is full slack and no way to bring the slack back in.

where the tire ripped a bit and the wheel got some curb damage.

airbag deployed (burned/bruised my damn wrists!)

the fender got pushed back. my drivers side door near the door handle does not line up with the rear quarter panel (the door is a little more popped out and is not perfectly level with the quarter)

frost · 10-04-2009, 03:13 PM

According to howstuffworks, an airbag can go off hitting a stationary object at 10-15 mph. So the airbag cannot be a good determiner of whether an auto is totaled.

Lone Wolf 75 · 10-04-2009, 03:48 PM

That sucks, sorry to hear about your crash. What speed did your accident happen at? From your description, it sounds like an awful lot of damage for low speed (say under 20mph). If there's significant frame damage and a lot of damage in the engine compartment, the dollar value of the damage will increase exponentially with the number of components that have to be replaced.

As kdo2milger said, make sure you get checked out too - a shock to your system like a rear end accident can have effects that do not show up immediately.

510z · 10-04-2009, 04:21 PM

I got 10 large for some road rash after an old dude caused me to ditch my bike at about 10-15 mph.

Blown32 · 10-04-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 510z

I got 10 large for some road rash after an old dude caused me to ditch my bike at about 10-15 mph.

10 large for road rash?I'am going out riding my bike the next rainy day!...lol!

bluzman · 10-04-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 510z

I got 10 large for some road rash after an old dude caused me to ditch my bike at about 10-15 mph.

What's that got to do with the OP's question? How old was the "old dude", 45? J/K

nogoodname · 10-04-2009, 04:24 PM

without any pics... our comments are all blind assumptions

frost · 10-04-2009, 04:26 PM

And nogood knows what they say about assumptions.

DooDooBrown · 10-04-2009, 04:53 PM

Well, I do know that in the fire department, they taught us that any time we cut a car, it is totaled (frame damage). However, in your case, it is kinda hard to tell, got any pics?? Anyways, my guess is they would total it, just because of the pretensioners in the seatbelt, and the air bag. It sounds like you have quite a bit of body work, and those rims aren't cheap (if you got the sport package). However, the airbag and pretensioners I would guess would run you north of 5 grand (it is a whole scheme that they run on those things), and when you equate body work, possible electrical issues, not to menition what may be wrong with the engine, I think you are as good as totaled. Keep us posted man!

CrownR426 · 10-04-2009, 04:55 PM

Go to the towing company and take pics asap.
I hope you went to the hospital also, if you didn't go and get yourself checked up.
Call your insurance company and get your claim number.
Keep us posted, good luck bud.

Neo187H · 10-04-2009, 06:41 PM

Cars deff not totaled, in fact its prob only got very minor suspension damage if any at all.

10-04-2009, 04:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 849	Go to the towing company and take pics asap. I hope you went to the hospital also, if you didn't go and get yourself checked up. Call your insurance company and get your claim number. Keep us posted, good luck bud. __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

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10-04-2009, 04:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jason Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 309 Drives: Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 18	The car didn't stop and I wasn't going fast. Definitely under 20mph but I hit the rail pretty hard due to how fast the other guy was going. He barely tapped me too (no homo). Car has 3000 miles. The car doesn't look nearly as bad as it probably sounds. I'm saying maybe totaled because I think everything including the airbag will add up quick. I'm sure the car will be nearly perfect after it's fixed but I'd rather get a new one. I only owe $10k so I don't have gap. I think I have new car replacement on my policy so totaled might benefit me. And no, it didn't happen on the 400 mile trip. Lol. I'll try to get pics later..

10-04-2009, 06:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jason Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 309 Drives: Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 18	hood, bumper, lh fender, chin spoiler, underbody plastic, wheel/tire. the a pillar might need to be repainted on the passenger side since the hood touches it and peeled some paint. the hood latch area is all bent and crap is all over the place on that corner. rear bumper needs paint, quarter panel needs pdr not really sure how this happened since there was no passenger. the passenger seatbelt is locked hard, like theres no way to pull slack from it. it's stuck (pretensioner maybe?) it ripped through the plastic and there's a hole in it (note my "wtf" confusion). the plastic cap that goes on the bolt popped off. on the drivers side seatbelt, there is full slack and no way to bring the slack back in. where the tire ripped a bit and the wheel got some curb damage. airbag deployed (burned/bruised my damn wrists!) the fender got pushed back. my drivers side door near the door handle does not line up with the rear quarter panel (the door is a little more popped out and is not perfectly level with the quarter)

10-04-2009, 03:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	According to howstuffworks, an airbag can go off hitting a stationary object at 10-15 mph. So the airbag cannot be a good determiner of whether an auto is totaled.

10-04-2009, 03:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lone Wolf 75 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Future Age: 51 Posts: 191 Drives: 09 370Z PG 6M Rep Power: 17	That sucks, sorry to hear about your crash. What speed did your accident happen at? From your description, it sounds like an awful lot of damage for low speed (say under 20mph). If there's significant frame damage and a lot of damage in the engine compartment, the dollar value of the damage will increase exponentially with the number of components that have to be replaced. As kdo2milger said, make sure you get checked out too - a shock to your system like a rear end accident can have effects that do not show up immediately.

10-04-2009, 04:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
510z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 328 Drives: 09 370z Blue M6 Rep Power: 18	I got 10 large for some road rash after an old dude caused me to ditch my bike at about 10-15 mph.

10-04-2009, 04:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1766	without any pics... our comments are all blind assumptions

10-04-2009, 04:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	And nogood knows what they say about assumptions.

10-04-2009, 04:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
DooDooBrown Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ranson, WV Posts: 178 Drives: 09 370 Touring w/spt Rep Power: 17	Well, I do know that in the fire department, they taught us that any time we cut a car, it is totaled (frame damage). However, in your case, it is kinda hard to tell, got any pics?? Anyways, my guess is they would total it, just because of the pretensioners in the seatbelt, and the air bag. It sounds like you have quite a bit of body work, and those rims aren't cheap (if you got the sport package). However, the airbag and pretensioners I would guess would run you north of 5 grand (it is a whole scheme that they run on those things), and when you equate body work, possible electrical issues, not to menition what may be wrong with the engine, I think you are as good as totaled. Keep us posted man!

10-04-2009, 06:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
Neo187H Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 302 Drives: PW 370Z Rep Power: 18	Cars deff not totaled, in fact its prob only got very minor suspension damage if any at all.