IDx combined with the Z as the future of the Z?
 

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/design-...214334661.html


Could it happen?

It seems we may have the last real iteration of the Z gentlemen.

last i heard, they were looking at developing a lightweight RWD platform for the IDx and then using that same platform to also make the next Z. don't be so sure about anything that comes out in the news though...as far as Nissan is concerned i think they are trying to keep a tight lid on what they are planning for future sports cars unlike when the 370Z was being developed and alot of images of it were being leaked on to the internet against Nissan's wishes.

Wow was really disappointed to read that but then again I'm really happy I got my z34 now.


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They are not going to build a shittier Z...

+1 -- A platform is not a car. Its a smart business and design move in today's automotive reality with respect to chassis cost and use. I think the next Z will be a Z. Id not worry just yet.

I always wanted Nissan to move towards a 3 sports car line, but as many others have pointed out to me on this forum, that would have been very unusual for them to pull off. That article helps support the "only 2 sports car" comments I've been told. It makes a lot of sense.

What has me curious, is if Nissan will do the IDx or the Z. The Z has a long history, but the IDx generated a lot of interest.

However I've seen articles stating if Nissan does the IDx, it would not look as ambitious as the original demo design that was seen in car shows. Given that a lot of the IDx charm was it's agressive retro look, I would voice Nissan go with building another Z. However IF they could pull off that retro appearance with the production IDx, I wouldn't be disappointed if Nissan retired the Z-brand for awhile, and made the IDx.

After all, just because Nissan lets the Z rest for a few years, doesn't mean we'll never see it again.


***EDIT***
On another note... all this speculation news (speculation leaks?), at least from the wording of how executive decision making is still being made, leads me to believe the current Z will still be around until 2016. I'm guessing the new Z (or IDx) will hit market in 2017.

Yeah, not an issue if the Z shares a smaller platform with the IDx. It's smart business. And there's nothing to stop Nissan from stretching or shrinking the platform to fit the specific car it underpins. That's what all manufacturers do.

If the Z starts from a smaller platform, it could shed some weight.

maybe maybe not

like pulling petals...

I do not know what to believe after so many conversations like this one. I guess I'll have to wait until the unveiling.

my thoughts exactly, mr. tam...

I remember when we though the Z35 would be unveiled at the tokyo auto show last year. and based on the article it still doesn't look like the Z35 is finalized. It make take a few more years, sadly.

Sounds like the return of a backseat.

Sounds like nissan has no idea what it's going to do with the next Z. They want the entry level sports car, the Z sports car and the supercar in their lineup. It's actually smarter if the idX is the lowest tier in the Z setup and the Z is the highest, kind of like how their is a impreza then wrx then STi. But if the idX and Z are 2 different platforms and if the next Z doesn't do well its definitely getting the axe lol.

btw lot of 'interesting' comments in the jalopnik article
http://jalopnik.com/the-next-nissan-...e-m-1643094196

We had the revised Nismo for 2015. Maybe we'll get a Nismo RC for 2016 (same platform as now), then the new Z/IDx platform for 2017?

They're done with the Z , article mentions something like this will take years to finalize to production. They don't even have a straight direction yet.

You seem to only be here to try and piss people off.


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I've heard more than one person around here say in 2017 we will get a forced induction Nismo RC. Which would mean the Z35 would be a 2018 model.


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Kamzeelover, you are out in left field. I totally disagree. watson853, you sir make all sorts of sense :tup:

Posting some car sales stats for US & Canada only. 2014 model year is through September only.

Nissan Z: Year 2012-7,827, Year 2013-7,013, Year 2014-6,281
Nissan Juke: Year 2012-40,096, Year 2013-42,234, Year 2014-35,221

Scion FRS: Year 2012-12,617, Year 2013-20,179, Year 2014-12,516 FRS First sold in June of 2012
Scion TC: Year 2012-24,174, Year 2013-20,579, Year 2014-15,432

Corvette: Year 2012-14,382, Year 2013-17,615, Year 2014-26,979
Cayman: Year 2012-554, Year 2013-3,623, Year 2014-2,784 2012 was model change year

Looking at these numbers, Nissan has to choose a segment they wish to participate in. The IDX would fall more into the category of the Juke, FRS & TC, where the amount of cars sold were fairly high. And it appears that when the FRS came out, it did not really cut too badly into the TC sales. Nissan could make the IDX one step up the ladder from the Juke and cut into the competitors share without affecting Juke sales. Might be the safer option for Nissan.

The Camaro is selling 80,000+ a year and Mustang 72,000+ a year. I didn't put it in the chart, as Good Car Bad Car (where I got info) does not breakdown the different types of Camaro's or Mustangs. I'm guessing that about 80%+ of Camaros and Mustangs must be the 6 cylinder versions. The typical car buyer in this segment wants a 2 door, sporty appearance, reasonably priced car that seats four and has a trunk. They are not true sports car lover like many on this forum, so looking at a car spec sheet that shows 306 or 332 horsepower is good enough for them. So the 2 seat Z has a hard time competing in this market.

Because Cayman's sell so few, that only leaves the Corvette for the Z to steal sales from. So the question is, does Nissan want to come out with another platform to come close to the C7 or just keep putting more money/resources into the GTR and make sure it stays at the top of the sports car world?

Well said Magic bus. It sounds like they want to start competing in the lower priced, higher volume market. I just don't think we'll have to wait until 2019/2020 to find out when as kamzeelover mentioned in the "Z35 Motor Theory" thread. Nissan is being careful not to release much information yet. I think they have a plan.

When is the new Z set to release? I mean they can't keep the 370z around for that much longer huh

Whatever Im keeping my Z until they come up with something formidable to replace it!

same here!!!!:iagree: when they come out with something better than the 370z i think im going to change my Z... But for now.... thats not going to happen...

I hope if they someday make the Z35... they make them look like the S30Z :drool:

I'll bet this is the last V6 we will have they will go for the 4 banger just to make it affordable and within price range of teenagers or newly grads.

I even doubt it now that they will come up with a turbo charged engine from Benz!
Nissan will go after the BRZ/scion hype!

Im good with that....that will make the Z34 an icon of a sports car! Cross fingers.

:iagree: bro!!! but im not too happy with that turbo charged engine from Mercedes Benz.... I think that Nissan have build some good turbocharged engines... i think they are very capable to build a great engine turbocharged engine for the IDX/Z with out the help of other brand.... if someone differ from this... just think in the GT-R... this are just my 2cents...

Possible.

The scenario could be Nissan has ALREADY made the decision of what's going to happen, and the info leaks are just measured steps to "acclimate the public" on what that choice is.

Basically that they're easing us customers into whatever expectations, hype, and/or disappointent they've set course to happen.

We'll know soon enough. The closer Nissan can get the new Z (or IDx) out by 2016 or 2017, the more likely the final decision was made in 2013 or 2014.

I don't think it's hard at all to pull off 3 sports cars. Remember once upon a time...

1. Nissan Silvia
2. Nissan Fairlady Z
3. Nissan Skyline/GT-R

JUST DO IT NISSAN! They need to stop being scared. It'll work.

IDX = $25,000-$36,000
Z= $35,000-$50,000
Skyline = $45,000-$60,000
GT-R= $90,000-$150,000

I know the GT-R starts at $103,000,realistically, it shouldn't.

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

@UNKNOWN_370, let's drop the target prices on that list by $10k and it'll make a great engineering challenge for Nissan. :)

I see no one's mentioning the Miata sales. :P

they increase price on flagships just for bragging rights for its owners.

I just don't see Nissan building...
A RWD 250hp idx for $15,000
A 400HP Z35 for $25,000
A 400hp skyline for $35,000.

I can see a $80k GT-R though.

I guess you forget the part where nissan basically admits the frs twins dominated them, they can't even compete with any new pony car. The Z is done and they don't even know what direction to go.

we know which direction you should go...

The reason nissan doesn't want to do three cars any more was because of the three cars there...they did not sell as many silvia's as they liked because for a few bucks more you can get a better car =Z...and the same for people looking at the Z for a few more thousands you can get the GTR....now the gtr is way out in price compare to the z but before it wasn't

would it be this one?........:gtfo2:

i said nothing of that nature? :rofl2:

JungleZ? :icon08:

Yeah, it smells like jungle. It's like the fvckin twilight zone with these posts. The FRS dominating the Z? They aren't even in the same market. I thought the FRS was trying to take civic si and gencoupe 2.0 customers? Most FRS owners wish they could've afforded the extra $120-180 a month payment for a Z.