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FairladyZ10PG 08-21-2014 02:11 PM

Need some help!
 
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I was recently involved in an accident when an elderly lady (in her 60s) driving a CRV came and hit me while I was making a left turn to enter a shopping mall.

Now she's saying that I hit her while she was at a complete stop. (which is a total bs since I saw her about 40 ft away, coming straight at me without slowing down)

Note that there was a steep incline and as all of you lowered guys know that our cars cannot go over those inclines at a speed faster than 2mph.

I cannot possibly cause this kind of damage while going at that speed. She, however, did not see me and failed to even slow down.

Tell me, in your honest opinion, by looking at the pictures, will her story hold up in court?

Thanks for all your inputs! :tiphat:

Zteve 08-21-2014 02:14 PM

no cop report = he said/she said.

FairladyZ10PG 08-21-2014 02:15 PM

^yea usually cali cops don't even file a report unless there are injuries so I didn't even bother calling them. and she was very apologetic when the accident happened. She apologized at least 3 times.

JARblue 08-21-2014 02:16 PM

Looking at those photos, how the hell would you hit her while she was stopped? You would have to have been drifting through the turn :ugh:

If you are lawyered up then I think you will be fine. GL though. Stupid bitches :shakes head:

JARblue 08-21-2014 02:18 PM

If you don't call the cops, at least call your insurance. My wife was hit by a guy with no insurance. I showed up at the scene a few minutes after it happened. I called my insurance company and had them take his statement over the phone right then and there. Later that night the insurance company called me to tell me that the guy was changing his story saying my wife was at fault. They said not to worry and took care of everything for us :tup:

kenchan 08-21-2014 02:18 PM

yah, there's no way a claims adjuster would see that and say you backed into her like that.
i say have your insurance handle this completely with the talks and make sure to note about
her apologizing at least 3x.

like i said in the past, the general public is stupid. :mad:

DEpointfive0 08-21-2014 02:19 PM

Who hit what? I was looking at my new wheels :yum:

You should be ok. Who do you have insurance though? And who does she have?

kenchan 08-21-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2938717)
Who hit what? I was looking at my new wheels

im glad you werent' looking at your ballz. :shakes head: the hell...

DEpointfive0 08-21-2014 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2938721)
im glad you werent' looking at your ballz. :shakes head: the hell...

It's a joke. OP knows

FairladyZ10PG 08-21-2014 02:22 PM

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This is the entrance where I was entering while making a left turn.
She was nowhere near the stop sign and I only saw her when almost half of my car was already on the sidewalk.

She is saying she was stopped at the stop sign before I made my left turn. F'ing lie

Now, lowered guys know that we have to cut when entering those inclines and cannot do so when there's a car stopped at that particular stop sign.

Doesn't make sense to do that unless I intentionally try to damage my vehicle...

FairladyZ10PG 08-21-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2938717)
Who hit what? I was looking at my new wheels :yum:

You should be ok. Who do you have insurance though? And who does she have?

Lol, not 100% yet :icon18:

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2938715)
yah, there's no way a claims adjuster would see that and say you backed into her like that.
i say have your insurance handle this completely with the talks and make sure to note about
her apologizing at least 3x.

like i said in the past, the general public is stupid. :mad:

My lawyer took my full statement today but he is being very cautious and doesn't want to tell me the possible outcome just yet.

I have Liberty Mutual and she has Mercury. At this point, Mercury is refusing to repair my vehicle and taking her word for it.

FairladyZ10PG 08-21-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2938714)
If you don't call the cops, at least call your insurance. My wife was hit by a guy with no insurance. I showed up at the scene a few minutes after it happened. I called my insurance company and had them take his statement over the phone right then and there. Later that night the insurance company called me to tell me that the guy was changing his story saying my wife was at fault. They said not to worry and took care of everything for us :tup:

I was in your wife's situation more than once. So the first person I called was my lawyer, and he contacted my insurance :)

kenchan 08-21-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ10PG (Post 2938733)
I have Liberty Mutual and she has Mercury. At this point, Mercury is refusing to repair my vehicle and taking her word for it.

sounds like a sleezy insurance company. i would definitely let liberty mutual handle it. maybe take the other party to court. im sure the lady might fold by then?

jaedub 08-21-2014 02:29 PM

So she hit you while she was exiting the mall?

janglez 08-21-2014 02:34 PM

i've been an insurance underwriter for over 10 years...these types of claims suck...my advice at this point is that there are cameras everywhere today...check with the local authorities/businesses to see if there's any footage

honger 08-21-2014 02:49 PM

Check to see if the entrance have security cameras that caught the incident.

If so, you can tell the lady you have this on film and it'll be in her best interest to tell the truth.

FairladyZ10PG 08-21-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 2938741)
So she hit you while she was exiting the mall?

Yes she was about to exit but she was not even close to the stop sign. Only reason her car stopped was because it came in contact with my car.

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Originally Posted by janglez (Post 2938753)
i've been an insurance underwriter for over 10 years...these types of claims suck...my advice at this point is that there are cameras everywhere today...check with the local authorities/businesses to see if there's any footage

I'm at the scene right now but no sign of any cameras.... Sucks asz!

jpkirk 08-21-2014 03:09 PM

Are there businesses in the area that might have cameras point in that direction? Does not take much resolution to see what happened in this case.

Ghostvette 08-21-2014 03:12 PM

You didn't happen to take pictures of the accident when it happened, did you? If so, her 'claim' is shot dead in the backside...

janglez 08-21-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ10PG (Post 2938801)
I'm at the scene right now but no sign of any cameras.... Sucks asz!

damn...so sorry...go door to door with the businesses in that general area and ask...ya never know

people can suck :shakes head:

mishuko 08-21-2014 03:20 PM

Sorry to be a devil's advocate but since there were no other witnesses (aside from your camera shots) and you were making a left you are technically liable for not giving right-of-way due to not having enough time to 'safely' make your turn... that's the BS that may possibly happen. For example I had a friend who was in an intersection light was red, so he proceeded to make a left, a d-bag decided he could still make the light (it was already red) and t-boned. My friend was 'at fault' when the other driver clearly ran the red-light.

Then again if it was a stop-sign and she failed to stop that's another story.

JARblue 08-21-2014 03:41 PM

After seeing the intersection, her lie is a little more viable. There is no stop sign. The markings on the ground are not enforceable traffic signals, unfortunately. If she was in her lane when the collision occurred, that makes it he-said-she-said. Sucks man. GL with everything.

My argument if it went to court would be that you have to take that entrance so slow, that you are giving yourself significantly more time to cross the intersection. You couldn't have possibly been moving fast enough to do that amount of damage to both cars without ripping off your front bumper on the driveway entrance at the same time.

FairladyZ10PG 08-21-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 2938807)
Are there businesses in the area that might have cameras point in that direction? Does not take much resolution to see what happened in this case.

I've checked around the whole building, nothing...just my luck

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 2938810)
You didn't happen to take pictures of the accident when it happened, did you? If so, her 'claim' is shot dead in the backside...

I did, but only after we moved the cars a few feet away where it's safe from other cars

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Originally Posted by janglez (Post 2938812)
damn...so sorry...go door to door with the businesses in that general area and ask...ya never know

people can suck :shakes head:

I've checked...nothing

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2938857)
After seeing the intersection, her lie is a little more viable. There is no stop sign. The markings on the ground are not enforceable traffic signals, unfortunately. If she was in her lane when the collision occurred, that makes it he-said-she-said. Sucks man. GL with everything.

Thanks. I have a feeling it'll work out :tup:

FairladyZ10PG 08-21-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2938857)
After seeing the intersection, her lie is a little more viable. There is no stop sign. The markings on the ground are not enforceable traffic signals, unfortunately. If she was in her lane when the collision occurred, that makes it he-said-she-said. Sucks man. GL with everything.

My argument if it went to court would be that you have to take that entrance so slow, that you are giving yourself significantly more time to cross the intersection. You couldn't have possibly been moving fast enough to do that amount of damage to both cars without ripping off your front bumper on the driveway entrance at the same time.

My point exactly!

Drakonis GTR 08-21-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2938738)
sounds like a sleezy insurance company. i would definitely let liberty mutual handle it. maybe take the other party to court. im sure the lady might fold by then?

They all do that. None of them want to pay to fix one car, much less two. Of course Mercury will take her side.

Of course I'm sure the only reason she's even changing her story is because someone pointed out that an argument against you is viable. Yeah, no report, no proof, it's pretty much going to be up to a judge at this point. I would say you have a couple of facts in your favor, but as to whether they will help is going to be up to your lawyer.

Good luck man!

mishuko 08-21-2014 04:05 PM

Yea I really hope she gets screwed for changing her story. It's brutal to have to deal with all the head ache.

FairladyZ10PG 08-21-2014 04:21 PM

Yea, it's pretty much up to my lawyer now. He was basically saying the same thing that it's not gonna be an easy case. I just feel bad for actually feeling any kind of sympathy for this lady. f'ing stabbed in the back

kenchan 08-21-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ10PG (Post 2938894)
Yea, it's pretty much up to my lawyer now. He was basically saying the same thing that it's not gonna be an easy case. I just feel bad for actually feeling any kind of sympathy for this lady. f'ing stabbed in the back

yah, that' aint cool at all. probably the sleezy insurance agent just told her 'oh so you werent completely at fault, just say it, say it now while i record you over the phone'

:shakes head:

kenchan 08-21-2014 04:27 PM

btw, my posts are for entertainment only! :mad:

mishuko 08-21-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2938903)
btw, my posts are for entertainment only! :mad:

:gtfo2: nothing goes over my head, my reactions are too fast

carlitos_370z 08-22-2014 07:57 AM

Damn bro sorry to hear about what happen to your Z :shakes head:

JARblue 08-22-2014 08:25 AM

Another thing I'll recommend when you get into an accident:

Pull out your phone and start video recording immediately. I walk around and pretend like I'm taking photos. When I'm done with that, I will approach the other person and start chatting them up about what happened. Keep the phone recording, and try to get them to admit fault and/or apologize. Then you have audio of their side of the story at the time of the accident in case they change their story like virtually everyone seems to do.

Disclaimer: I live in Texas where it is perfectly acceptable for one party of a conversation to record audio without the permission of the other party. In some states this is not legal, so I urge you to learn what legal actions you can and can't take to protect yourself in your location.

carlitos_370z 08-22-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2939483)
Another thing I'll recommend when you get into an accident:

Pull out your phone and start video recording immediately. I walk around and pretend like I'm taking photos. When I'm done with that, I will approach the other person and start chatting them up about what happened. Keep the phone recording, and try to get them to admit fault and/or apologize. Then you have audio of their side of the story at the time of the accident in case they change their story like virtually everyone seems to do.

Disclaimer: I live in Texas where it is perfectly acceptable for one party of a conversation to record audio without the permission of the other party. In some states this is not legal, so I urge you to learn what legal actions you can and can't take to protect yourself in your location.

:stirthepot: thanks for the tip bro!!! i hope this sh!t dont happen to me never... but we never know man...

FairladyZ10PG 08-22-2014 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 2939493)
:stirthepot: thanks for the tip bro!!! i hope this sh!t dont happen to me never... but we never know man...

Yea, I wouldn't wish this to no one

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2939483)
Another thing I'll recommend when you get into an accident:

Pull out your phone and start video recording immediately. I walk around and pretend like I'm taking photos. When I'm done with that, I will approach the other person and start chatting them up about what happened. Keep the phone recording, and try to get them to admit fault and/or apologize. Then you have audio of their side of the story at the time of the accident in case they change their story like virtually everyone seems to do.

Disclaimer: I live in Texas where it is perfectly acceptable for one party of a conversation to record audio without the permission of the other party. In some states this is not legal, so I urge you to learn what legal actions you can and can't take to protect yourself in your location.

I'm not sure if it's legal or not to record w/o the other party's consent here in Cali. But I'm going to start anyway

FairladyZ10PG 09-10-2014 12:59 PM

Finally got some good news for a change :tup:

After a month long investigation, the other insurance company accepted that I was not at fault and they will take responsibility for all damages from the accident. (For those who don't know, my Z was hit by another person about a month ago and she lied that I caused the accident) :shakes head:

I'm also getting the Z back this week...I haven't checked with the bodyshop with the progress.. hope everything comes back as good as new :eekdance:

jpkirk 09-10-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ10PG (Post 2959968)
Finally got some good news for a change :tup:

After a month long investigation, the other insurance company accepted that I was not at fault and they will take responsibility for all damages from the accident. (For those who don't know, my Z was hit by another person about a month ago and she lied that I caused the accident) :shakes head:

I'm also getting the Z back this week...I haven't checked with the bodyshop with the progress.. hope everything comes back as good as new :eekdance:

:tup: :happydance:

Very cool that all is working out. Must be a load off your mind.

kenchan 09-10-2014 01:13 PM

GL!!! :tup:

kittens 09-10-2014 01:15 PM

Hopefully this stupid bitch got screwed I hate people like this

FairladyZ10PG 09-10-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 2959990)
:tup: :happydance:

Very cool that all is working out. Must be a load off your mind.

:rock: He11 yeah!

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2959995)
GL!!! :tup:

Thnx :icon17:

FairladyZ10PG 09-10-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kittens (Post 2960004)
Hopefully this stupid bitch got screwed I hate people like this

Yea seriously... she caused me and those around me so much unnecessary stress...


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