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2016 would be pretty perfect so that the 50th anniversary edition won't be plagued by first model year issues like the 40th!

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Old 08-18-2014, 09:23 AM   #151 (permalink)
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2016 would be pretty perfect so that the 50th anniversary edition won't be plagued by first model year issues like the 40th!
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2016 would be pretty perfect so that the 50th anniversary edition won't be plagued by first model year issues like the 40th!
plagued? kinda strong and offensive choice of words for someone driving an AT car...









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Sry ur so sensitive Kenchan. Also I chose the auto for specific reasons mainly because my knees are a mess from my time in the army.
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Sry ur so sensitive Kenchan.
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Sry ur so sensitive Kenchan. Also I chose the auto for specific reasons mainly because my knees are a mess from my time in the army.
Becareful, he is a very sensitive kinda of fella deep inside. Dont want to end up like me on his ignore list. My days here have been a shadow of what they used to be from that time onwards that I was ignored by him.
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^remember guys, when the Z32 TT debuted it was a direct competitor to C4 Vette. The people saw it that way too. They had about the same level of hp, 0-60; 1/4 times, MSRP, etc. But Nissan had to put the Z on hiatus because the SUV craze came into play during the mid 90s and on because the trend was changing. The Z33 imo was a let down. Watered down, styling was kinda cheap and plasticky, and the C5, C6 Vettes were a step above it in price, performance, etc.

If the next Z can make at least 400hp, do 12-sec range 1/4s, etc....people will pay $60K for it. It will be a direct competitor to C7 Vette...then, the Z06/ZR1 will be the direct competitor to the GT-R....But I gotta feeling Nissan is gonna cheapen down the Z to make it a mass market sports car like the BRC Scion...whatever that Beans Rice and Cheesy thing is supposed to be.
No one will pay for A $60k Z. Going upmarket due to the state of the yen is what killed the Z32. Not so much SUV'S People expect a Z to be less than a vette with near performance. At $38k the Z32 was selling. At $50k it did nothing. Same will happen if we go upmarket
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No one will pay for A $60k Z. Going upmarket due to the state of the yen is what killed the Z32. Not so much SUV'S People expect a Z to be less than a vette with near performance. At $38k the Z32 was selling. At $50k it did nothing. Same will happen if we go upmarket
Again, if it has the right specs to back up going upmarket, people will buy it, including myself. There's a huge difference between pricing it up because of the yen (as with the later years of the z32) and pricing it there because thats the price it can command based on what it offers. Why are people so fixated on a cheap price yet complain about not having enough performance/options. If the current z34 went for $60k you're right no one would buy it. But this, hopefully, will be a different formula than the Z34

The z32 was also long in tooth when it was discontinued, coupled with Nissans financial troubles, increasing emissions standards and the rising yen. When a company is near bankruptcy, they have to cut fast. The Z had always been a niche car and will never sell in the masses like the vette which unfortunately adversely affects the pricing. I don't get it, people will rave about a vette, who until recently was a cheaply built car for $60k that only offered raw power. Yet the idea of a Nissan Z that could rival it in the $50k range is so absurd? Seems like majority here want vette power, Porsche refinement at a BRZ price.
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Going upmarket will put it out of the hands of middle class owners, 60-70k is more than some people make in a year. Even 35k is a stretch but doable with creative financing.
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All we can go off is what Nissan has let leak out.
The base sounds like it will be around 50k and probably won't be worth it cause the turbo four hybrid drivetrain will most likely have similar power levels to our Z34's with more torque from the hybrid system. Now the v6 turbo hybrid for 60k should be more than capable of 400+ Hp/Tq that may very well be worth it's higher price.

If you want a cheap powerful Rwd import start praying that Hyundai puts there 5.0 V8 in the genesis coupe.

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if that's true, i think that it will come to bite them in the ***... thought to self, i need to find a sugar momma by 2016 lol
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All we can go off is what Nissan has let leak out.
The base sounds like it will be around 50k and probably won't be worth it cause the turbo four hybrid drivetrain will most likely have similar power levels to our Z34's with more torque from the hybrid system. Now the v6 turbo hybrid for 60k should be more than capable of 400+ Hp/Tq that may very well be worth it's higher price.

If you want a cheap powerful Rwd import start praying that Hyundai puts there 5.0 V8 in the genesis coupe.

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For what it's worth, my Genesis forum has talk of the V8 in the 2016/17 coupe. Market research done by Car and Driver have Hyundai a 20% chance to have a "0 to 60 mph under 4 second coupe in the market for $40k"
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For what it's worth, my Genesis forum has talk of the V8 in the 2016/17 coupe. Market research done by Car and Driver have Hyundai a 20% chance to have a "0 to 60 mph under 4 second coupe in the market for $40k"
Off topic, but do you think Hyundai will spin off 'Genesis' as it's luxury marque?
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Off topic, but do you think Hyundai will spin off 'Genesis' as it's luxury marque?
Yes, all sources point to that. Much like the rumors with the Z going "upmarket". They discontinued the 2.0 version as of '14 and just focusing on the current 3.8/3.3 turbo/V8 for the "high end luxury" coupe.
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