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Originally Posted by MJB A Japanese V8 in a sports car? Lol sorry guys, not happening. Lexus would like to have a word with you.

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Old 10-08-2014, 08:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A Japanese V8 in a sports car? Lol sorry guys, not happening.
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Well if the new GTR does have a hybrid system and push 700HP, there will be a huge gap between the Z and GTR. they can put something like a v8 in the Z and not worry about encroaching on GTR sales. But i feel that Nissan wants the Z to be more approachable to a wider audience so they wont do something cool or out of the ordinary.
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Well if the new GTR does have a hybrid system and push 700HP, there will be a huge gap between the Z and GTR. they can put something like a v8 in the Z and not worry about encroaching on GTR sales. But i feel that Nissan wants the Z to be more approachable to a wider audience so they wont do something cool or out of the ordinary.
I think the R36 will be hybrid. Nissan, or Japanese manufacturers in general, try to emulate high end European e.g. Porsche 918 (hybrid), the newer Lambos, Ferraris, etc. They're all about touching on the latest and greatest technology; they're forward-thinking i.e. progressive.

Domestic car makers, seem to me, want to perpetuate "nostalgia or tradition" by offering V8s with direct injection and "cylinder shutoff." I guess they find going hybrid "too sissy and green." The V8 rumble is too macho to give up. But with time, as fossil fuels become more scarce and thereby expensive, they too will lean on this technology.
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I think the R36 will be hybrid. Nissan, or Japanese manufacturers in general, try to emulate high end European e.g. Porsche 918 (hybrid), the newer Lambos, Ferraris, etc. They're all about touching on the latest and greatest technology; they're forward-thinking i.e. progressive.

Domestic car makers, seem to me, want to perpetuate "nostalgia or tradition" by offering V8s with direct injection and "cylinder shutoff." I guess they find going hybrid "too sissy and green." The V8 rumble is too macho to give up. But with time, as fossil fuels become more scarce and thereby expensive, they too will lean on this technology.
imagine the rage of all the mustang fans when Ford announces a hybrid system for the mustang
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Why the alarm? A 4-cyl turbo Z = 240SX, Silvia, browntop SR20DET It would be "cheapy-Z." When the Z32 debuted in N America, it was Nissan's halo car. All the JDM fanboys clamored for the Skyline GT-R because it was only available in Japan, Australia, England, and some other countries...They got their wish via the R35. R35 blows away prior gen "Skylines" in performance.

I expect the next Z to be 'watered down.' Nissan is gunning for sales i.e. numbers, not exclusivity. They already stated that they're not that happy with Z34 sales numbers overall. They want to whore out cars, not make them "low production, high priced" ones.
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Sounds like they have no idea if they will even make a new z car. If they make anything it will be 2019 or 2020. By that time hopefully you guys can afford a better car. Ill keep saving for corvette , m3 or porshe
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Sounds like they have no idea if they will even make a new z car. If they make anything it will be 2019 or 2020. By that time hopefully you guys can afford a better car. Ill keep saving for corvette , m3 or porshe
Some of us can afford m3s and vettes. We just choose not to because there are more important things to spend our money on than cars. Nothign wrong with buying an expensive car, but just because some people don;t have them doesn't mean they can't afford them.
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I hope it will be powered by a v6 variant of the motor in this car:

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When I say the new Z should get a V8, I'm not talking about the VK series, or swapping a Chevy V8 in either, I'm saying create a new one. Give the new Gtr a V8TT and it's exactly like now, Gtr has a V6TT and the Z a NA V6, except now uped' to V8's'....I just think that would be the key move imho for the next generations...

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Cough** Toyota Ft1 aka Supra... **cough

Ive been a Nissan lover for many years and hopefully they dont have a 7 year lull in between but it does appear other car makers are stepping their game up heavily.

I will always be a Z lover though...
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Don't forget that Honda still has the new S2000 that is rumored to be mid engined. So hopefully between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda we get something decent by 2017.


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Nissan should just put the Titan V8 or better in the GTR and TT it. Put a 4.0 VQ engine, (my 08 Pathfinder has 4.0 VQ). in the 2016 400Z as an option and we'll be happy. Right, fellow Z owners?
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Nissan should just put the Titan V8 or better in the GTR and TT it. Put a 4.0 VQ engine, (my 08 Pathfinder has 4.0 VQ). in the 2016 400Z as an option and we'll be happy. Right, fellow Z owners?
I would rather have a high revving 4 cylinder turbo. Have you ever driven a 400+hp Mitsu evo well if you havent then its hard to explain that its much more powerful then you would think for hp and torque? Ive driven a 400 hp mustang v8 and personally its not my thing...Felt like a lowered truck

The best option keeping a good power to weoght ratio is a 6 cyl turbo or 4 cylinder turbo. A v8 doesnt belong in the next Z. They are focusing on lightweight performance and a v8 unless used magnesium and aluminum and spending an arm and a leg to keep a big block lightweight it shouldn't and wont happen for a very good reason.

Remember if the Z is created it will be more like a scion frs size. If a front engine car that size had a v8 the front to back weight ratio would be horrible for cornering. Like 65 front 35 rear
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