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In the past it has been debated, what engine will the Z35 get? In one of my threads I made a poll where the forum voted on what they would

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Old 07-22-2014, 01:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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In the past it has been debated, what engine will the Z35 get? In one of my threads I made a poll where the forum voted on what they would like to see. Choices I provided were a hypothetical 2.5 turbo 4 banger, 3.0 v6 turbo or keep the 3.7. Some felt the middle engine had no hope of being produced. There was no credible info stating Nissan was working on any new engines and the ONLY data at the time was a 3.0.turbo_diesel by new partners Mercedes-Benz.

Well it turns out Benz has a new series of turbo engines coming out.
One is a 2.0 4 cylinder turbo producing 241hp & 273lb tq.
An AMG version with 355hp & 332 lb tq.
Finally a 3.0 v6 turbo rated @ 329hp & 354lb tq.

Lets cross out the first entry. It sounds like what would possibly end up in the IDX Nismo. The other two seem more credible to the Z. Especially my previously speculative hopes for a 3.0 v6 turbo. Though I was hoping to see HP numbers closer to 350 or 370. The torque number is a prayer answered fir the Z.
I'm sure it would be easy for Nissan to tune this out to 370hp & 355lbs torque. If this kind of power was lowered into a 3100-3200 lb vehicle? With some suspension help from AMG, this Z once again will rival v8's with more than half the displacement. Will MB throw us a bone for the Z's powerplant?

Thoughts?
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Mercedes did it for the Chrysler Crossfire (supercharged V6). Good combination I,ve seen on an immaculate 2005 build do a 1/4 mile in 12.56sec!
But - for the Nissan purists ( me included) Nissan have the capability of providing something of their own design - it will inevitably be up to their boffins to gauge if there will be a return on investment within the market they are to aim at.

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I doubt it will be the same engine that they are putting into the CLA45, so that leaves the 3.0 V6.

Personally, I want it to be a 2.4L turbo, for reasons that should be obvious.
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The AMG 2.0 turbo would be a beast but I have major concerns about the reliability of that engine. I'll take a v6 running low to normal amounts of boost instead of the 26 pounds that monster AMG shoves through itself. In the end I want more power but I also want reliable.


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Not that they would, but how would you guys feel about a hybrid? Think KERS/F1 style.
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How about an AMG version of the v6 turbo but what I would really like to see is a detuned version of the vq30dett that was used in nissans super GT car
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Part of the reason I bought a 370Z was the idea that it was a Nissan. Reliability ratings were good and service cost is ... well ... Nissan prices, not German prices. I am not sure Nissan would be able to pull the same reliability from a hot rodded turbo 4 banger. I don't like turbo's either. I do like the idea of hybrid with combined hp of about 375 to 400. Now that would be cool and with current tech really easy. However, not sure about long term reliability. Have not done that kind of research.
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This is a toughie. I think no matter what the weight of the car is, they will insist on power values that are higher than they were before -- that would knock out the 3.0 turbo option, unless they can bump up the power a bit.

The more powerful AMG motor may be an option, but I expect it to be pricey, and like the IPL G or Q or whatever it is now.

That said, I am expecting the new Z to be only marginally different from the current model at this point -- I'm open to being mistaken and (hopefully) pleasantly surprised, but the new G is pretty much just a refined version of the old one, and the Z tends to follow that, so...
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crossfire's biggest fail (besides the appearance) was their wobbly gearbox.

i honestly could careless if benz makes the engines. i personally like the VQ engines.
that's wat makes nissans a nissan imo.
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Inifiniti is already selling the Q50 with a MB 2.0T outside the US. So, replacing the 3.7 VQ with another MB engine is possible.
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if i wanted a benz engine infiniti, i would just get benz.

another reason why ive been looking at lexus these days. somethings just needs to be japanese if buying a japanese car.
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Ya think the Germans are bitching about their 2.0T being built in Tennessee?
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Nissan builds great motors/drivetrain. They do not need any help. Why would they outsource what they do very well. Not sure what I would like to see. 4 banger= NO.
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Since i come down a long line of psychics(or phsycos can't remember) i will tell you what it will be. It will stay a v6 and the power out put will be around 370 and the design will pretty much be the same.

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Ya think the Germans are bitching about their 2.0T being built in Tennessee?
shittt, that's the same senario we had with the f-king steering locks.
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