Toyota back in the game with new " z killer?

awesomez · 09-23-2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ

Are you talking about the 2.0T, the 3.8 or the sedan's engine regarding similar in class? The 3.8 was cross shopped a lot against the Z.

And isn't the 2.0T a detuned 4B11?

Same Engine as new Lancer Ralliart/Evo X?? - RWDCoupe.com - Hyundai Genesis Coupe Owners Club

I am not specifically talking about genesis coupe. I am just saying that Hyundai's first engine to make it to Wards top 10 was this year and it was the 4.6 V8 that is in genesis sedan. Is 2.0T a detuned 4B11? I don't care because Mitsubishi is another maker that's having a hard time being anywhere near Ward's top 10. Going fast is one thing, strap a rocket engine on there and it will go but it needs to go fast to 200k miles.

kensin0429 · 09-22-2009, 09:50 PM

400zxtt man

kensin0429 · 09-22-2009, 10:34 PM

i think they should just keep making good TVs and cell phones forget about car market

chief_Roka · 09-22-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kensin0429

i think they should just keep making good TVs and cell phones forget about car market

Hyundai doesn't make tv's n cell phones. That's daewoo. A whole different company.
Daewoo makes everything from cars to guns to microwaves.

Hyundai are heavy in the machining business and ship building, truck n trailer making and construction architecture etc... if you don't know what you are talking about? Why even speak?

Have u even driven the hyundai?
I drove both 3.8 gt and track models and these cars are awesome. I opted for the Z on the strength of a superior tranny. The genesis is a hell of a car for a year 1 auto. Remember the Z has 40yrs so it will be superior. But this is the best u can get for a 1st time out coupe.
Ur just to ignorant to understand that though

kannibul · 09-23-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Hyundai doesn't make tv's n cell phones. That's daewoo. A whole different company.
Daewoo makes everything from cars to guns to microwaves.

Hyundai are heavy in the machining business and ship building, truck n trailer making and construction architecture etc... if you don't know what you are talking about? Why even speak?

Have u even driven the hyundai?
I drove both 3.8 gt and track models and these cars are awesome. I opted for the Z on the strength of a superior tranny. The genesis is a hell of a car for a year 1 auto. Remember the Z has 40yrs so it will be superior. But this is the best u can get for a 1st time out coupe.
Ur just to ignorant to understand that though

And so does mitsubishi and yamaha...and they do alright. Honda makes lawn mower engines and generators.

It (on the surface) appears to be an Asian-theme where a company makes a number of products across a wide range. Kind of like a "brand you can trust for everything" approach. Also gives them survivability when one market slows.

chief_Roka · 09-23-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

And so does mitsubishi and yamaha...and they do alright. Honda makes lawn mower engines and generators.

It (on the surface) appears to be an Asian-theme where a company makes a number of products across a wide range. Kind of like a "brand you can trust for everything" approach. Also gives them survivability when one market slows.

Exactly... which is common practice in a socialized govt.
These are govt funded corporations with several subcompanies under the same name.
I guess bmw should hav stuck to making tools?
Or saab making planes
Think of all the gun companies that were doing something else.
Or all the toys that were invented thru true scientific experiments.
That was just a dumb comment made by that guy

kensin0429 · 09-23-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Exactly... which is common practice in a socialized govt.
These are govt funded corporations with several subcompanies under the same name.
I guess bmw should hav stuck to making tools?
Or saab making planes
Think of all the gun companies that were doing something else.
Or all the toys that were invented thru true scientific experiments.
That was just a dumb comment made by that guy

just a straight commont, didnt want a dictionary answer, but hey
i dont mind, seems like a little off topic now
lets move on

kensin0429 · 09-23-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Hyundai doesn't make tv's n cell phones. That's daewoo. A whole different company.
Daewoo makes everything from cars to guns to microwaves.

Hyundai are heavy in the machining business and ship building, truck n trailer making and construction architecture etc... if you don't know what you are talking about? Why even speak?

Have u even driven the hyundai?
I drove both 3.8 gt and track models and these cars are awesome. I opted for the Z on the strength of a superior tranny. The genesis is a hell of a car for a year 1 auto. Remember the Z has 40yrs so it will be superior. But this is the best u can get for a 1st time out coupe.
Ur just to ignorant to understand that though

i guess you didnt get my point of what i was saying,
or i didnt make it more obvious..

hmm..the koreans should just stay with making good tv's cell phones and all other stuff besides car market...

Greg · 09-23-2009, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kensin0429

hmm..the koreans should just stay with making good tv's cell phones and all other stuff besides car market...

No offense to SamSung or LG etc.. fans..

But korean electronics are pretty much low end or cheaper bargin priced stuff.

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Originally Posted by shumby

seems you do mind

+1

Don't get why some are so peeved at anything negative about korean products.

They just dont get it.. Korea just does not have the history,track record or experience in consumer products when compared with the US, Japan or Europe. Sorry but its a fact.

And no...Im not anti korean.. My brother in law is korean, he's from san jose but he's still korean.

shumby · 09-23-2009, 12:00 AM

i remember my dad having the same conversations when he had his 510 datsun. H wold get craped on about his POS car. lol. look where nissan is now. Hyundia will not be far behind. they are getting better. and will be a top make some day.

shumby · 09-23-2009, 12:44 AM

^^^^^why?

shumby · 09-23-2009, 12:46 AM

seems you do mind

kensin0429 · 09-23-2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shumby

seems you do mind

shumby · 09-23-2009, 12:47 AM

^^^^ i don't get it?

Greg · 09-23-2009, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

According to ride lust and edmunds.com.

Toyota WILL be producing a RWD CELICA GT AND GT-4.
These cars will be 2+2 coupe and 3door hatch config.

The N/A GT will get a 2.0ltr 220 hp engine with a weight of 2,866lbs.
The GT-4 will be a turbo or twin turbo of the same engine pushing 300-320hp and possibly an 8,000rpm redline. This car will be under under 3klbs as well.
TT just changes the high end torque loss issue n this car might be a beast?
To make it hurt even more... photos look like it will be a quality ride starting under $20k
Looks like even the genesis coupe is gonna need a refresh soon or its bargain potential will fall thru the floor...
Lastly, toyota back in the day had a rep for true sports cars in 2+2 form.
It might come to the u.s.a. as a toyota or subaru or both but it looks like it may be coming for sure.
What u guys think? Comp for the Z or no?

Can't see something like this coming in under $20k.. And if it does come in at that price, you can be sure there is going to be some major cost cutting.

So no I dont think its going to compete with the Z.

09-23-2009, 12:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 46 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 238	i remember my dad having the same conversations when he had his 510 datsun. H wold get craped on about his POS car. lol. look where nissan is now. Hyundia will not be far behind. they are getting better. and will be a top make some day. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

09-23-2009, 12:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 46 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 238	^^^^^why? __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

09-23-2009, 12:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 46 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 238	seems you do mind __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

09-23-2009, 12:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 46 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 238	^^^^ i don't get it? __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

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