A New version of the Nismo ?

BOLIO 671 · 07-29-2014, 08:13 AM

This is the way I see it...You could save money on buying a base or Sports/Touring Package and spend that extra money modding the Z the way you want with new Intakes, Exhaust, Suspension, Bumpers, Side Skirts, Fenders, Ground Kits Etc....You could even buy a base and convert it to a Nismo but at the end of the day it will never be a NISMO or outdo a Nismo...Its almost like buying a base model Civic Hatch or Integra and converting it to a Type R....At the end of the day it will never be a True Type R. The bottom line is that the Nismo is in a totally different class all by itself no matter how you look at it...It's factory made directly from Nissan giving it that true authenticity

The Nismo IMHO is for the true enthusiast who wants to have a NISMO.

theDreamer · 07-29-2014, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

This is the way I see it...You could save money on buying a base or Sports/Touring Package and spend that extra money modding the Z the way you want with new Intakes, Exhaust, Suspension, Bumpers, Side Skirts, Fenders, Ground Kits Etc....You could even buy a base and convert it to a Nismo but at the end of the day it will never be a NISMO or outdo a Nismo...Its almost like buying a base model Civic Hatch or Integra and converting it to a Type R....At the end of the day it will never be a True Type R. The bottom line is that the Nismo is in a totally different class all by itself no matter how you look at it...It's factory made directly from Nissan giving it that true authenticity

The Nismo IMHO is for the true enthusiast who wants to have a NISMO.

MightyBobo · 07-29-2014, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

This is the way I see it...You could save money on buying a base or Sports/Touring Package and spend that extra money modding the Z the way you want with new Intakes, Exhaust, Suspension, Bumpers, Side Skirts, Fenders, Ground Kits Etc....You could even buy a base and convert it to a Nismo but at the end of the day it will never be a NISMO or outdo a Nismo...Its almost like buying a base model Civic Hatch or Integra and converting it to a Type R....At the end of the day it will never be a True Type R. The bottom line is that the Nismo is in a totally different class all by itself no matter how you look at it...It's factory made directly from Nissan giving it that true authenticity

The Nismo IMHO is for the true enthusiast who wants to have a NISMO.

The Kool-aid flows strong in this one!

All of the 370's are built in Japan and imported over, btw. But I'm sure you knew that.

b15 · 07-29-2014, 08:59 AM

He's got one point right, it'll never be a Nismo! Not much of a loss.

BOLIO 671 · 07-29-2014, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

The Kool-aid flows strong in this one!

All of the 370's are built in Japan and imported over, btw. But I'm sure you knew that.

Lol....Call it Kool Aid...Call it Tang...Not everyone would see it the way I do....that's why its an Opinion.....and like an @SShole...everyone has one.

MightyBobo · 07-29-2014, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

Lol....Call it Kool Aid...Call it Tang...Not everyone would see it the way I do....that's why its an Opinion.....and like an @SShole...everyone has one.

Actually, yours wasn't necessarily opinion at all.

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

...but at the end of the day it will never be a NISMO or outdo a Nismo...

Patently false.

carlitos_370z · 07-29-2014, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hurahn

PR doesn't count. There are plenty of unicorns there. In the early 2000's I learned the hard way how fast a turbo Tercel with four dudes in it was.

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here in PR you see crazy things every where loool!!! Tercel with 2zz engines, Tercel with Toyota Venza engine and a few more crazy things hahahaha!!! well in my town if you hear a blow off dont get mad if you dont see an Subaru, Evo or something expensive... the 99% of the time that sound comes from a Suzuki Samurai or a Jeep hahahahahah!!! damn....

Anyways this is other theme loool

carlitos_370z · 07-29-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

Well, calling a future Z owners car ugly, is somehow kidding or not offensive?

Bolio, props to you. You make an articulate argument for the Nismo Z in the face of much opposition. I hope you and all the other Nismo owners drive your Z's today and enjoy the hell out of it

hahahahha!!! well im kidding and im not offending anyone... in my post you see that i say its ugly???? not like b15 said... at the end of the day its a Z... and thats what matters

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Originally Posted by b15

It's all in good fun. Everyone has their opinion, some are more passionate about expressing it. It's been going on forever. Nismo v. Non-Nismo. Base v. Sport package, etc. At the end of the day, it's still a Z, and it's still sexy

+1,000,000,000

BOLIO 671 · 07-30-2014, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z

here in PR you see crazy things every where loool!!! Tercel with 2zz engines, Tercel with Toyota Venza engine and a few more crazy things hahahaha!!! well in my town if you hear a blow off dont get mad if you dont see an Subaru, Evo or something expensive... the 99% of the time that sound comes from a Suzuki Samurai or a Jeep hahahahahah!!! damn....

Anyways this is other theme loool

Are the Rotary's a hot thing there too?

carlitos_370z · 07-30-2014, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

Are the Rotary's a hot thing there too?

hahaha you dont have idea bro... you go to the drag tracks and the 95% of the cars are rotary's looool!!!

aszyd · 07-29-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

This is the way I see it...You could save money on buying a base or Sports/Touring Package and spend that extra money modding the Z the way you want with new Intakes, Exhaust, Suspension, Bumpers, Side Skirts, Fenders, Ground Kits Etc....You could even buy a base and convert it to a Nismo but at the end of the day it will never be a NISMO or outdo a Nismo...Its almost like buying a base model Civic Hatch or Integra and converting it to a Type R....At the end of the day it will never be a True Type R. The bottom line is that the Nismo is in a totally different class all by itself no matter how you look at it...It's factory made directly from Nissan giving it that true authenticity

The Nismo IMHO is for the true enthusiast who wants to have a NISMO.

I'll accept that my car will never be a Nismo, because it lacks the official number plate, but please define "outdo." Because anyone here with an exhaust, HFCs, and tune is probably already outdoing a Nismo, by my standards.

BOLIO 671 · 07-29-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

I'll accept that my car will never be a Nismo, because it lacks the official number plate, but please define "outdo." Because anyone here with an exhaust, HFCs, and tune is probably already outdoing a Nismo, by my standards.

That in itself says a lot...because your standards are probably different from everyone else's.....but for the sake of discussion your point isn't necessarily true...I have an exhaust and HFC's on my Nismo and I've outran Base and Sports models at the track that have full bolt-ons and a tune....Then again that could all be contributed to driver skills which is a totally different topic....

Don't get me wrong...there are a lot of beautiful Z's out there that were converted from base/sports models.....My good friend SIMOTA is one of them out here on the island....Some may argue that there are other Z's out there that look better or might even outperform the Nismo...but it's still not an authentic Nismo....Compare the blue books and that's where you'll see the difference.

kenchan · 07-29-2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

This is the way I see it...You could save money on buying a base or Sports/Touring Package and spend that extra money modding the Z the way you want with new Intakes, Exhaust, Suspension, Bumpers, Side Skirts, Fenders, Ground Kits Etc....You could even buy a base and convert it to a Nismo but at the end of the day it will never be a NISMO or outdo a Nismo...Its almost like buying a base model Civic Hatch or Integra and converting it to a Type R....At the end of the day it will never be a True Type R. The bottom line is that the Nismo is in a totally different class all by itself no matter how you look at it...It's factory made directly from Nissan giving it that true authenticity

The Nismo IMHO is for the true enthusiast who wants to have a NISMO.

yah, im an ethusiast that never really cared for the nismo's shape.
if having a nismo is that special to you, that's great. but this thing about
'true authenticity' status is really just in your head.

there are parts out there that will easily make a base better than a factory built car.
that you must accept.

carlitos_370z · 07-29-2014, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, im an ethusiast that never really cared for the nismo's shape.
if having a nismo is that special to you, that's great. but this thing about
'true authenticity' status is really just in your head.

there are parts out there that will easily make a base better than a factory built car.
that you must accept.

Amen brother!!!

BOLIO 671 · 07-29-2014, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, im an ethusiast that never really cared for the nismo's shape.
if having a nismo is that special to you, that's great. but this thing about
'true authenticity' status is really just in your head.

there are parts out there that will easily make a base better than a factory built car.
that you must accept.

I have to disagree about the whole "in my head thing." The Nismo is a model...I like the Nismo that I have...I don't care for the new one...others do...some old Nismo owners call the new Nismo model an upgraded Sports/Touring....but it's still a Nismo....

Your argument that there are parts out there that will easily make a base better than a factory car....I agree...I accept that you can build a car to out perform a factory one....but my argument is that it's still not a Nismo. You could also turn around and build a factory Nismo to outperform other Nismo's or Base or Sports/Sports-Touring package Z's....

For clarification...When I posted "True Enthusiasts" I was referring to those into the "Nismo" model/brand....there is no doubt that we are all enthusiast of the Z here....that's why we either owned or own one.

Just like the 40th Anniversary you could take a base model and make it look exactly like a 40th Anniversary...buy the chairs, emblems, match the paint, Rims, but when it's all said and done it's simply just a replica.....the true authenticity isn't there it won't and will never be a 40th Anniversary Z. The truth will come out when you run the VIN.

I'm not downgrading the other models...or saying that the Nismo is better than the other models...What I'm stating is that it is what it is...A Nismo....It's obvious that the Z's come in different models in order to match different styles, budgets, and needs of the drivers or potential owners....If that wasn't the case then all Z's would come in one model....

07-29-2014, 08:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
BOLIO 671 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GUAHAN Posts: 1,198 Drives: To & From then Back Rep Power: 3400	This is the way I see it...You could save money on buying a base or Sports/Touring Package and spend that extra money modding the Z the way you want with new Intakes, Exhaust, Suspension, Bumpers, Side Skirts, Fenders, Ground Kits Etc....You could even buy a base and convert it to a Nismo but at the end of the day it will never be a NISMO or outdo a Nismo...Its almost like buying a base model Civic Hatch or Integra and converting it to a Type R....At the end of the day it will never be a True Type R. The bottom line is that the Nismo is in a totally different class all by itself no matter how you look at it...It's factory made directly from Nissan giving it that true authenticity The Nismo IMHO is for the true enthusiast who wants to have a NISMO. __________________ 2013 Nismo Z34 / FI TT #091 / IG: @lilzilla_z34

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b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36572	He's got one point right, it'll never be a Nismo! Not much of a loss.