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KaienZ34 05-17-2014 10:20 PM

Quick shops care of CoolT, using most of my car w/new nismo front and little extras for fun.

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Eclipz 05-17-2014 10:43 PM

Just wait. When you see one in person, you will want.

Beachhz 05-17-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Eclipz (Post 2823205)
Just wait. When you see one in person, you will want.

Watching the videos made me want one more than the pictures did, so I guess you're 1/2 right, haha.

maro 05-17-2014 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Beachhz (Post 2823209)
Watching the videos made me want one more than the pictures did, so I guess you're 1/2 right, haha.

I felt the same way

Waiz 05-17-2014 11:28 PM

If current 2014 NISMO is $43k list price, this will be nearly $45k with options

:eek:

cooltoy 05-17-2014 11:30 PM

Since they probably won't bring the Nismo to Canada, as they have not in the past (one year only), that is one dilemma I will not have to worry about.

7speed 05-17-2014 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 2823044)
MC,

Is the gearing in the 6mt changed as well? I thought I read it was now 3.91's. If so, did the srm get tweaked?

What do you mean tweaked...why wouldn't Nissan have it working as it should. This isn't some aftermarket retrofit.

axmea? 05-18-2014 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2823153)
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:facepalm:

I been on this forum too long have ANOTHER auto vs manual elitism debate.

I agree with you. People should get over the fact the manual does not equal enthusiast. GET OVER IT PLEASE. Paddle shifters will be for the modern day enthusiasts. A few generations and the manual will be gone. Kids with their video games will have no appetite for it when they get their license.

BTW, I have a manual and don't care if you have an auto. I just enjoy the sh!t out of my car and you do the same to yours.

As for those who don't like the 2015 Nismo, tough. It is still a nice offering from Nissan and hope they sell a lot. I am realistic and understand why they did this and not put in as much --- powerwise, drivetrain, weight, etc. These things costs money and does not make good business sense to do it in the last model before the new one comes out. If it is the last offering of this body style, then for a collector it is worth the penny. Good effort Nissan. Nice touch in building and defining your Nismo brand.

DEpointfive0 05-18-2014 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 2823291)
I agree with you. People should get over the fact the auto does not equal enthusiast. GET OVER IT PLEASE. Paddle shifters will be for the modern day enthusiasts. A few generations and the manual will be gone. Kids with their video games will have no appetite for it when they get their license.

BTW, I have a manual and don't care if you have an auto. I just enjoy the sh!t out of my car and you do the same to yours.

As for those who don't like the 2015 Nismo, tough. It is still a nice offering from Nissan and hope they sell a lot. I am realistic and understand why they did this and not put in as much --- powerwise, drivetrain, weight, etc. These things costs money and does not make good business sense to do it in the last model before the new one comes out. If it is the last offering of this body style, then for a collector it is worth the penny. Good effort Nissan. Nice touch in building and defining your Nismo brand.

Fixed, and GTFO Raf!!! You and your elitist BS manual! Auto FTW!!!
:nutswinger::bowrofl:
Jk brother


But I think Nissan should've gone out with a bang, I think this model is weak sauce for the most part like most of us here seem to agree on. Finally the seats are worthy, finally it has the ability to have Nav, finally you CAN get it with the 7AT, but it's a day late and a dollar short still.
Thank god they did the 3.9 gears. But if they installed a real diff, I bet they'd sell wayyyyyy more! And if it had more power, EVEN MORE!
For the record, I don't MIND a duckbill, but this one is really tacky the way they installed it, and it looks too much like a normal sport IMO.

And I hope Nissan is still watching this thread so they can see me calling it weak again... Because it's weak...

Hatsuongmai 05-18-2014 01:48 AM

I wonder if the front bumper of this Nismo Z can fit on an older Nismo or even a base....

axmea? 05-18-2014 01:49 AM

I still promised you a beer or two right Andrew?. lol

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Originally Posted by Hatsuongmai (Post 2823299)
I wonder if the front bumper of this Nismo Z can fit on an older Nismo or even a base....

Yes it should. They're all the same in terms of mounting points. You might have an issue with the under tray so check with Eagle. He is a Nismo convert.

FL 4Motion 05-18-2014 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 7speed (Post 2823229)
What do you mean tweaked...why wouldn't Nissan have it working as it should. This isn't some aftermarket retrofit.

By tweaked I mean I'm assuming they reprogrammed the srm to match the rpms to the new gears when it rev matchs for you. Changing the final drive throws off the srm and currently there is no fix other than turning off srm (this is with 4.08s). If the 3.90s are "close enough" that Nissan didn't need to do anything that's interesting and if they did tweak the programming then I wonder if my Nisan mech can upload that into my car if I did a 3.90 gear swap.

Datsun240Z71 05-18-2014 05:26 AM

One of our friends at Nissan North America's Franklin, TN headquarters brought a white 6 speed to our local Saturday Cars and Coffee get together yesterday.

The seats and steering wheel are great, the front/rear fascias I liked too (including the red accents) and the more subtle rear spoiler, but the tape stripes on the black mirrors looked cheap.

takjak2 05-18-2014 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 2823300)
I still promised you a beer or two right Andrew?. lol


Yes it should. They're all the same in terms of mounting points. You might have an issue with the under tray so check with Eagle. He is a Nismo convert.

This is a good point to check. Which under-tray does it use and will it be $1000

joseZhartford 05-18-2014 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz (Post 2823218)
If current 2014 NISMO is $43k list price, this will be nearly $45k with options

:eek:

U might be right .but if u think about it everything is standard on the 2015 nismo the only thing u have to add is tech package which includes Nav and back up camera which most of us won't really need and auto is optional

UNKNOWN_370 05-18-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 2823291)
I agree with you. People should get over the fact the manual does not equal enthusiast. GET OVER IT PLEASE. Paddle shifters will be for the modern day enthusiasts. A few generations and the manual will be gone. Kids with their video games will have no appetite for it when they get their license.

BTW, I have a manual and don't care if you have an auto. I just enjoy the sh!t out of my car and you do the same to yours.

As for those who don't like the 2015 Nismo, tough. It is still a nice offering from Nissan and hope they sell a lot. I am realistic and understand why they did this and not put in as much --- powerwise, drivetrain, weight, etc. These things costs money and does not make good business sense to do it in the last model before the new one comes out. If it is the last offering of this body style, then for a collector it is worth the penny. Good effort Nissan. Nice touch in building and defining your Nismo brand.

Yup, I think Nissan is using the NISMO model to show what is to come in the Z35. Its not a redesign. Just hinting where we are headed.


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Originally Posted by MC (Post 2823158)
are rotary phones for calling enthusiasts then?

just saying there shouldnt be a stigma for auto as its down to personal preference and has no relevance on someone enthusiasm for a car. Nissan purposely added the Auto option for the very reason to try to get more people into the NISMO brand of cars and with this push of all things NISMO they wanted it to be more accessible simple as that its an option they arnt forcing it on anyone.. they just didnt want someone to be in the market and the lack of that option ultimately be a reason why they didnt end up buying the car

all that being said Im on the fence if I would go auto or back to manual if I got one of these. Every Z Ive ever had was manual but the 7AT is pretty good. only bone to pick I have with the Auto is from a design standpoint as the shifter knob and poll looks too large

:iagree:

Also how about people, that take the Z to a drag strip who need to squeeze out every millisecond on a NA or stage 1 build. Or people with impairments/disabilities that can't drive manuals who are "ENTHUSIASTS" who want to have a track day. The paddles with DRM are better suited.

I agree on knob and pole as well

Evansblue787 05-18-2014 09:36 AM

Love the front end but hate the wheels and spoiler. Glad to see Nissan try though! Holding out for the next nismo z.

UNKNOWN_370 05-18-2014 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2823294)
Fixed, and GTFO Raf!!! You and your elitist BS manual! Auto FTW!!!
:nutswinger::bowrofl:
Jk brother


But I think Nissan should've gone out with a bang, I think this model is weak sauce for the most part like most of us here seem to agree on. Finally the seats are worthy, finally it has the ability to have Nav, finally you CAN get it with the 7AT, but it's a day late and a dollar short still.
Thank god they did the 3.9 gears. But if they installed a real diff, I bet they'd sell wayyyyyy more! And if it had more power, EVEN MORE!
For the record, I don't MIND a duckbill, but this one is really tacky the way they installed it, and it looks too much like a normal sport IMO.

And I hope Nissan is still watching this thread so they can see me calling it weak again... Because it's weak...

I agree with a day late and a dollar short. But I only agree with the seats and the auto. The nav is gahbidge on a car like this. Oh, I also agree the diff should be better on a NISMO model.

But everything else subjective. I think it still looks great in spite of it being late. It would be killer with a 14 wing. In reality, that's all it needs aside from a better differential.

Does the stock NISMO sway kill the understeer found in the sport when hard cornering? I have eibach sways to correct it.

forza370z 05-18-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 2823002)
oh and while we are off topic I got to share this pic i took while we were out as its a very rare instance to have these cross paths


http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7a297072.jpg


http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2bc5b5ca.jpg

While I don't like the new 370z nismo much, the new GTR nismo is a different story. I totally in love!:yum:

The BlueMax 05-18-2014 11:04 AM

Its Okay
 
I like everything they did to this model except the wheels.

cooltoy 05-18-2014 11:12 AM

Easily remedied.

m4a1mustang 05-18-2014 11:34 AM

Looks good. Better in the flesh. I don't care much for the wheels and the lack of a wing throws me off a bit, but the seats are great and the auto option is a nice addition.

DannyGT 05-18-2014 12:16 PM

We're spoiled by what the Z can fit it terms of wheel setups so I don't think anything stock will appease the masses but make no mistake, these are the nicest stock wheels ever put on a Z. They look great for what they are.

Otherwise, I'm just glad Nismo is creating a real cohesive look across their cars so you know exactly what it is. Whether or not it does it for everyone is really just personal preference. They really needed to add a similar wing, maybe slightly less aggressive version of the previous nismo with a subtle red strip edging it out. Then, its complete.

The seats though...my god. Must have. This car dropped is going to look amazing.

FISH22 05-18-2014 12:42 PM

I keep looking at pictures of it, and I just can't seem to like it. Which, in turn, makes me feel much better about just buying my '14 NISMO 4 months ago. :)

But, I can't get enough of those seats! And I'm loving all the dark pieces in the inside… gunmetal shifter surround, door handles, etc.

Codename067 05-18-2014 02:12 PM

jizz...eeeeeeeeeverywhere!!!!!

m4a1mustang 05-18-2014 02:28 PM

I just want the seats.

burgerga 05-18-2014 02:45 PM

It's a decent upgrade. I love the front bumper especially with the red trim. That wing looks wimpy though. I know a lot of you don't like the "boy racer" Nismo wing, but that's part of what makes the Nismo a Nismo. It's not supposed to be subtle, but aggressive. The old style does that perfectly without being a whale tail.

The seats: waaaaaant. Would probably be too expensive to do a swap though. Nav: meh. Everyone has GPS on their phones now, nav units seem a bit pointless.
7AT: Pretty awesome if you like that sort of thing, I'd rather have the MT though.

I love the minor adjustments to the interior. I gotta find a way to darken all my silver accents like that, looks sexy as f*ck. And it looks like the white ring around the start button glows red. Gonna take a look to see what's possible when I do the GTR button swap.

Overall its not causing me any grief on my recent '11 Nismo purchase, just giving me inspiration.

joseZhartford 05-18-2014 03:30 PM

the only thing i hate about the 2015 nismo is that they didnt upgrade the engine with at least 400 bhp

Tick64 05-18-2014 03:41 PM

I'm dying to see the other color options... especially the black! :excited:

roplusbee 05-18-2014 04:16 PM

I was excited when I saw the teaser..............

All in all, I am relieved and disappointed in the same breathe. I like the larger opening in the front bumper, but don't like it's style. The rest of the aero is "whatever" to me. As much as I complain about the visibility the 09-14 wing blocks, I still like it. The 15 made me glad that I turbo'd my 09 (because it is a keeper). The only downside I see currently, is the fact that the 13-14 NISMO wheels will be that much harder to get now. I was planning on having a 13-14 set for summer and a 09-12 set for winter. Oh well, lol.

roplusbee 05-18-2014 04:23 PM

Oh yeah.........that more refined, mature sports car thing is a crock of crap. It looks like spacecraft or TRON car compared to the earlier NISMO Edition. The 09-14 NISMO Edition had it right in the looks department. If you wanted to look "mature", get the Touring Sport and call it a day. There is nothing refined about this NISMO in terms of looks. The interior is a different story, but they couldn't seem to get that quite right either with the seat installation/position.

gurneyeagle 05-18-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatsuongmai (Post 2823299)
I wonder if the front bumper of this Nismo Z can fit on an older Nismo or even a base....

I would be willing to bet that the new Nismo bumper is completely interchangeable with the stock set-up to the point that the front fender liners and the undertray are now the same parts as the standard ones (non-Nismo).

UNKNOWN_370 05-18-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 2824051)
I was excited when I saw the teaser..............

All in all, I am relieved and disappointed in the same breathe. I like the larger opening in the front bumper, but don't like it's style. The rest of the aero is "whatever" to me. As much as I complain about the visibility the 09-14 wing blocks, I still like it. The 15 made me glad that I turbo'd my 09 (because it is a keeper). The only downside I see currently, is the fact that the 13-14 NISMO wheels will be that much harder to get now. I was planning on having a 13-14 set for summer and a 09-12 set for winter. Oh well, lol.

You can get your wheels.. But retail pricing will come with...

evil_tt 05-18-2014 06:03 PM

One thing that came to mind, was a few years ago, our first glimpse of the Nismo 370z. Granted it was the "S-Tune", maybe they'll make a few tweaks before production, or over the next year?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/...51ed206206.jpg

http://www.topcarwallpaper.org/wp-co...r-swlcs39z.jpg

MC 05-18-2014 06:27 PM

yeah the S-tune kit was an add on and coexisted with the NISMO factory design. so there were two separate designs at the same time

the new NISMO Z we you saw friday is the done deal as you can buy it in 2 months time

Tick64 05-18-2014 06:29 PM

^^ Ehw. Gross. Glad that changed before mass production. (Oh, just an add-on. Thanks MC)

m4a1mustang 05-18-2014 06:36 PM

Nissan should sell those Recaros like Ford Racing does. I'd buy them! Would be nice to get a good seat and keep the side airbags.

MC 05-18-2014 08:00 PM

I will see If I can find pricing on these. it might be a little closer to the car release though. they are very similar to the Juke RS which are about $4K each ( they can be had for $2400) I would plan for that range

m4a1mustang 05-18-2014 08:23 PM

That's a hard pill to swallow. It was about $2400 for the Recaro pair for my Mustang. $4,800 for the Z is pushing it. At that price point I'd ask myself if the side bags are worth it. ;)

burgerga 05-18-2014 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 2824256)
I will see If I can find pricing on these. it might be a little closer to the car release though. they are very similar to the Juke RS which are about $4K each ( they can be had for $2400) I would plan for that range


That would be awesome if you could look into that for us, MC.


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