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Voice59 05-17-2014 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jaytirbhaw (Post 2819513)

Personally I like it overall better than the older Nismo. Especially the accents. It'd be even more cool if the accents were available in any color the other Z's come in.

RBfastback 05-17-2014 08:51 AM

2015 nismo
 
So what do you guys think if the new 2015 nismo body style??


http://jalopnik.com/2015-nissan-370z...-it-1577484826


so I didn't see any post on this yet so sorry if I'm reposting




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lesper4 05-17-2014 09:31 AM

Well I know a lot of people don't like it but I am one that does. I did just happen to get my 2014 in November so I might consider trading in. This has a much better front end then the 2014's and the rear is nice too. I am just not that impressed with those wheels as the ones I currently have.

KaienZ34 05-17-2014 09:43 AM

I wonder how it would look with an amuse wing?

marty31 05-17-2014 09:57 AM

Put me in the "like" file. Great to see that old horrible barn door of a wing gone.

UNKNOWN_370 05-17-2014 10:09 AM

Aggressive... This should have come out in 2013.Impact would have been better to Z enthusiasts. I think members are "rightfully" anxious for a Z35 to go against the competition that many just see this Nismo as "lipstick on the pig."

Me personally. This is "THE" Z34. It needs the 2014 wing though, desperately. Probably a Nismo part selling scheme by not having a proper wing. I just hope VVEL was smoothed out.

Good work Nissan... 2 years late though. I'd still strongly consider the purchase. Also I think this Nismo is giving hints to the Z35 architecture with this Nismo. I believe the design will be evolutionary, not revolutionary

6MT-Z34 05-17-2014 10:17 AM

One thing that I like about the interior besides the obvious is how they have all the silver pieces painted black...it blends in better imo

axmea? 05-17-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 2822173)
ok just got home. I spent the whole day helping Nissan hanging out with my friends from Nissan. I got to help debut the car and then rode in it and went on some photoshoots with it and the other NISMO GTR and JUKE RS that was there.

I got some real time with the car today, so If anyone has any specific questions let me know and I will try to answer them

Thanks for doing this? Taking you up on your offer to take questions.

What brake improvements/changes?
Changes to tuning/power/torque?
Did Nissan talk about how much it weighed?
Changes to the driveline? Diffs, clutch, tranny, gearing?
Drag?

LONDON2012 05-17-2014 10:58 AM

This is my favorite Z34 to date. I'd paint the lower portion of the front bumper to be body colored though. Hopefully all 2015's will have the black headlights.

UNKNOWN_370 05-17-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 2822678)
Thanks for doing this? Taking you up on your offer to take questions.

What brake improvements/changes?
Changes to tuning/power/torque?
Did Nissan talk about how much it weighed?
Changes to the driveline? Diffs, clutch, tranny, gearing?
Drag?

These are my questions as well. This NISMO talks the talk... Will it walk the walk...

Noticing the wheels. They may be substantially lighter than the outgoing wheels. But I'm sure whatever weight was lost externally was gained internally with the nav.
The base/NISMO seats were exxtremely light. Did we get brand name seats that are heavier? Hope not. At least they are competition certified.

MC 05-17-2014 11:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYuK2brjgBg#t

MC 05-17-2014 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 2822678)
Thanks for doing this? Taking you up on your offer to take questions.

What brake improvements/changes?

none to my knowledge

Changes to tuning/power/torque?


same as the current NISMO 18 hp gain on the standard car from the same exhaust and ECU tweaking

Did Nissan talk about how much it weighed?

no and that figure was left out of the specs. i would guess its very similar to the current car. the body work and the seats may move last years numbers around a bit but there wasnt anything I noticed that was geared purely toward weight savings other than maybe the thin backed recaros. they do have all the electrics added back so they could come in again similar to the current seat. so bottom line if there is any its marginal as under the skin its the same car mechanically besides a retuned suspension

Changes to the driveline? Diffs, clutch, tranny, gearing?
Drag?


none of that was mentioned so I assume its a carry over from again the current NISMO. the final drive ratio of the auto is different than the auto on the non NISMO its. 3.692 vs 3.357 and they are claiming the acceleration is quicker to 60 in the Auto

Shadezz 05-17-2014 11:25 AM

:ughdance: .......quicker to 60 in the Auto. LOVE MY AUTO

/Angelo350Z/ 05-17-2014 11:29 AM

Same 350 hp ... lame, Nissan. Car looks great, but just give us the Z35 already!

joseZhartford 05-17-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 2822724)
Same 350 hp ... lame, Nissan. Car looks great, but just give us the Z35 already!

I agree with u ...this means we gonna have to wait till at least 2016 for the z35

KiwiNismo 05-17-2014 02:03 PM

I like the new look of the Nismo and the bottom line is, this is a track version of the 370z. It should look and perform much better than any base version. Since they redesigned the kit did they do it with the car being on a track in mind? Like my 2012 Nismo, it claims to have 150lbs of down force at 75mph. Does the new kit on the 2015 Nismo have an equal or increase in down force?
Power wise, is there more hp and torque? Obviously NOT! A big thumbs down to Nissan for that one.

Is there anywhere that Nissan explains about the new changes and differences of the old and new kit? Does the new kit function better than the old? i would like to read. Please post link if you have it. Thanks

The option of having a gps is awesome and should have been an option from the start.

The new seats are sweet and i wished the steering wheel had a flat bottom.

Paddle shifters are a great option, look at the gtr.

Should have taken the stupid clock out a put in an oil pressure sensor.

The exhaust... can it at least sound half as loud as the gtr? This is a "track" car... im sure people know what they are getting into when they buy this car and a little exhaust noise wont hurt.

Did we really need the rear wiper?

I'd hold off on buying or trading in for this years Nismo model until they make changes under the hood where it really counts.

This is just MHO.

tnav 05-17-2014 02:29 PM

This update of the Nismo is a joke, anyway. I think I would consider getting those mirrors for my 2012, I have to see them up close, I hate the mirrors in our cars. Also the seats seem to be extremely nice, our cars need that too if you are somewhat tall or have long legs.
I think buying this car will kick your A55 in terms of depreciation, especially with the new model around the corner, I would absolutely stay away, but buy the new Z once it is out, since the later models are heavier and slower, the first year is typically quickest

UNKNOWN_370 05-17-2014 02:35 PM

for those of us that own the automatic, we know we get excellent torque response from our units. I believe with the new gear ratios, this NISMO will be an excellent performer in the automatic.
A reworked suspension should probably allow the NISMO to accelerate very hard. This auto will be worth buying.
Expect the Z35 to feel more torquey due to boost. But also expect that 4 banger to run out of steam around 120-130mph... This Z doesn't begin to loose steam till 146mph. Even when it begins to lose steam @ 146mph. There's enough Hp to make it to the govonor quickly.That's my sport model. Maybe the extra 18 and marginally higher revs add more push to 155-160mph. These NA's hold a muscle car feel. The Z35 will feel more German-ish.

ajperretta 05-17-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2822833)
for those of us that own the automatic, we know we get excellent torque response from our units. I believe with the new gear ratios, this NISMO will be an excellent performer in the automatic.
A reworked suspension should probably allow the NISMO to accelerate very hard. This auto will be worth buying.
Expect the Z35 to feel more torquey due to boost. But also expect that 4 banger to run out of steam around 120-130mph... This Z doesn't begin to loose steam till 146mph. Even when it begins to lose steam @ 146mph. There's enough Hp to make it to the govonor quickly.That's my sport model. Maybe the extra 18 and marginally higher revs add more push to 155-160mph. These NA's hold a muscle car feel. The Z35 will feel more German-ish.

No one knows what the next model will have under the hood. I'd be a little surprised if they put a turbo 4 cyl in it, since the heart of the Z has always been a 6 cylinder. There are certain things that have to stay the same to keep it a Z.

I really am surprised they offered an auto version. Quicker or not, an auto isn't an enthusiast option. *Most* nismo buyers want a drivers car, and auto takes all the fun away. Rowing through the gears is where the fun is:)

kenchan 05-17-2014 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 2822718)
What brake improvements/changes?

none to my knowledge

Changes to tuning/power/torque?


same as the current NISMO 18 hp gain on the standard car from the same exhaust and ECU tweaking

Did Nissan talk about how much it weighed?

no and that figure was left out of the specs. i would guess its very similar to the current car. the body work and the seats may move last years numbers around a bit but there wasnt anything I noticed that was geared purely toward weight savings other than maybe the thin backed recaros. they do have all the electrics added back so they could come in again similar to the current seat. so bottom line if there is any its marginal as under the skin its the same car mechanically besides a retuned suspension

Changes to the driveline? Diffs, clutch, tranny, gearing?
Drag?


none of that was mentioned so I assume its a carry over from again the current NISMO. the final drive ratio of the auto is different than the auto on the non NISMO its. 3.692 vs 3.357 and they are claiming the acceleration is quicker to 60 in the Auto

wow so it's really just the ugly body work and new seats, nav package... like a vanity girly version... kinda. :ugh:

kenchan 05-17-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SterlingDrive (Post 2822429)
Saw on another site they are Rays...

Sterling

yah, too bad they ran out of good designs these days...

kenchan 05-17-2014 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2822181)
how was the suspension. is it firm like the 14 nismo? or was it softened up? which tires does it run, the new s001?

MC- any thought on this question i posted yesterday?

MC 05-17-2014 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2822946)
MC- any thought on this question i posted yesterday?




I only rode in it from one photoshoot location to another so I didnt get a real feel for the suspension other than to say it felt similar to every other 370z ive been in and I even drove a NISMO at COTA last year. no specifics on spring rate or anything like that were given out or discussed other than to say it was retuned for 2015. it might take some real world testing to see what all was changed. The car is out in 2 months so we will know sooner than later

Tires are S001

axmea? 05-17-2014 04:44 PM

Thanks for the response MC. It is a collector's car. If you end up with 2015 #1, it's a keeper. The very 1st of the last ones is desirable. If it was me, I'd leave it stock and un modded, maybe exhaust and change the wheels and wrap it safely never to be soled.

MC 05-17-2014 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 2822992)
Thanks for the response MC. It is a collector's car. If you end up with 2015 #1, it's a keeper. The very 1st of the last ones is desirable. If it was me, I'd leave it stock and un modded, maybe exhaust and change the wheels and wrap it safely never to be soled.

thanks, yes it will be bone stock except for the JDM clear side front turn signals.


as for the exhaust there is an optional one ive ordered that is the NISMO Titanium off the spec V....cant get much better than that one!

http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps17d9e5f7.jpg


http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps83f9311c.jpg


oh and while we are off topic I got to share this pic i took while we were out as its a very rare instance to have these cross paths


http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7a297072.jpg


http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2bc5b5ca.jpg

Virtual 05-17-2014 05:24 PM

Anyone know where you can get that red lip these nismo 370z's and gtr's are getting

MC 05-17-2014 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Virtual (Post 2823027)
Anyone know where you can get that red lip these nismo 370z's and gtr's are getting



The red on the NISMO Z front lip is actually painted( sides mirrors and rear are decals like whats on the NISMO GTR and juke.

alot of GTR guys are using pinstripe to replicate the look ( cant totally get down with that mehtod) If you wanted the look it will cost you about $5

I was in the camp of not being happy that the red was a decal but after seeing it in person atleast on the GTR there is an indention the red goes down in so its not just stuck on. another thing to keep in mind and this never occurred to me until nissan marketing brought it up...but if you have damage to that area a decal is much easier to replace than having to repaint and match parts of a stripe.

I was curious of the quality so I picked at it lightly with my fingernail and it seems to be stuck on there extremely well

FL 4Motion 05-17-2014 06:00 PM

MC,

Is the gearing in the 6mt changed as well? I thought I read it was now 3.91's. If so, did the srm get tweaked?

Elan 05-17-2014 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiNismo (Post 2822808)
I like the new look of the Nismo and the bottom line is, this is a track version of the 370z. It should look and perform much better than any base version. Since they redesigned the kit did they do it with the car being on a track in mind? Like my 2012 Nismo, it claims to have 150lbs of down force at 75mph. Does the new kit on the 2015 Nismo have an equal or increase in down force?
Power wise, is there more hp and torque? Obviously NOT! A big thumbs down to Nissan for that one.

Is there anywhere that Nissan explains about the new changes and differences of the old and new kit? Does the new kit function better than the old? i would like to read. Please post link if you have it. Thanks

The option of having a gps is awesome and should have been an option from the start.

The new seats are sweet and i wished the steering wheel had a flat bottom.

Paddle shifters are a great option, look at the gtr.

Should have taken the stupid clock out a put in an oil pressure sensor.

The exhaust... can it at least sound half as loud as the gtr? This is a "track" car... im sure people know what they are getting into when they buy this car and a little exhaust noise wont hurt.

Did we really need the rear wiper?

I'd hold off on buying or trading in for this years Nismo model until they make changes under the hood where it really counts.

This is just MHO.

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the USDM version will not have a rear wiper.

MC 05-17-2014 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 2823044)
MC,

Is the gearing in the 6mt changed as well? I thought I read it was now 3.91's. If so, did the srm get tweaked?



NISMO is 3.916 regular Z is 3.692

FL 4Motion 05-17-2014 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC (Post 2823056)
NISMO is 3.916 regular Z is 3.692

Ok so that is a new change. I suppose you don't know if any changes were made to keep srm happy with higher final drive ratio?

MC 05-17-2014 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 2823059)
Ok so that is a new change. I suppose you don't know if any changes were made to keep srm happy with higher final drive ratio?

na didnt get that technical. I was quite distracted with the NISMO GTR being there..so you guys are lucky you got any Z coverage out of me lol

TheBoomSpoon 05-17-2014 06:54 PM

So if the 2015 uses fd of 3.9, i wonder does tjat mean we can upgrade our 3.357 fd auto to 3.9 without needing the diff from a manual transmission. Thats a worth it mod if the z35 first year isnt appealing

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White07z 05-17-2014 07:24 PM

I'm just going to get a PW roadster and buy the new nismo kit to add to it plus the wheels. Any objections?

Xplicit97 05-17-2014 07:44 PM

Ill keep my 2011 Nismo.. only added benefit is seats, nav, and blacked out headlights.. which I can do myself for much cheaper

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maro 05-17-2014 07:46 PM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LYuK2brjgBg
Video release from nissam newsroom
Honestly I really like the new bumpers
I like to know pricing soon ,, guessing they will cost more then 2000??

MC 05-17-2014 08:14 PM

this probably has been discussed pages back that I missed since its so obvious but this NISMO kit is almost identical to the NISMO Sentra concept. I was going back looking at some stuff on my PC and after seeing the Z in person it clicked that its literally the exact same just applied to the Z

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-...a-NISMO-04.jpg

KiwiNismo 05-17-2014 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elan (Post 2823054)
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the USDM version will not have a rear wiper.

You're probably right. I was going by the latest photo of the car at the time.

UNKNOWN_370 05-17-2014 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajperretta (Post 2822896)
No one knows what the next model will have under the hood. I'd be a little surprised if they put a turbo 4 cyl in it, since the heart of the Z has always been a 6 cylinder. There are certain things that have to stay the same to keep it a Z.

I really am surprised they offered an auto version. Quicker or not, an auto isn't an enthusiast option. *Most* nismo buyers want a drivers car, and auto takes all the fun away. Rowing through the gears is where the fun is:)



:facepalm:

I been on this forum too long have ANOTHER auto vs manual elitism debate.

MC 05-17-2014 09:22 PM

are rotary phones for calling enthusiasts then?

just saying there shouldnt be a stigma for auto as its down to personal preference and has no relevance on someone enthusiasm for a car. Nissan purposely added the Auto option for the very reason to try to get more people into the NISMO brand of cars and with this push of all things NISMO they wanted it to be more accessible simple as that its an option they arnt forcing it on anyone.. they just didnt want someone to be in the market and the lack of that option ultimately be a reason why they didnt end up buying the car

all that being said Im on the fence if I would go auto or back to manual if I got one of these. Every Z Ive ever had was manual but the 7AT is pretty good. only bone to pick I have with the Auto is from a design standpoint as the shifter knob and poll looks too large


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