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MagmaREDZilla 05-03-2014 10:32 PM

20mm vs 25mm spacers
 
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What's up people! So basically I went through the entire forum looking for a dropped Z with spacers as Im debating on wether to get 20mm or 25mm bolt on rear. I see most of you are dropped on swifts and are able to get away with 25mm spacers or even 30mm in rear. Now my question is would I rub with 25mm's in rear and 20mm in front(as you guys said 20mm is necessary in front if getting bolt-on spacers) Since the drop on the front is 1.45" rear 1.35"? Btw I'm going with z1 bolt-ons. Your feedback is very much appreciated. Attachment 88120Attachment 88121Attachment 88122

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Mt Tam I am 05-04-2014 09:13 AM

You do not plan on tracking this car I assume.

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 2806174)
You do not plan on tracking this car I assume.

No I do not plan on tracking the car, being said I wouldn't want handling being hurt either

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loiro370z 05-04-2014 09:19 AM

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I'm on swift with 20mm front and 25mm rear , no rubbing and the car feel awesome.
20mm bolt-on did not worked for me in front, a least not the Z1,
sold the 20mm bolt on and got the spacers with extended studs.
see the pics of the wheels with 20mm bolt-on
My opinion
Front 20mm with extended studs, Rear 25mm bolt-on
hope this help

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by loiro370z (Post 2806183)
I'm on swift with 20mm front and 25mm rear , no rubbing and the car feel awesome.
20mm bolt-on did not worked for me in front, a least not the Z1,
sold the 20mm bolt on and got the spacers with extended studs.
see the pics of the wheels with 20mm bolt-on
My opinion
Front 20mm with extended studs, Rear 25mm bolt-on
hope this help

Thank you for the heads up loiro370z, but as I was going through the forum I some where read 20mm+ bolt-on would be just fine. I'll also speak to Z1 tomorrow before ordering anything. Are there any rubbing issues in the rear while certain situations?

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mab864 05-04-2014 09:27 AM

I started with 25mm on the sport Rays in the back and 20mm in the front. I dropped the rears to 20mm because the wheels stuck out about 1/4" past the fender. I'm still running the stock 275 Potenza's which are pretty stretched on the stock rear wheels and I didn't care for the look of the stretched sidewall and wheel sticking past the fender. I'm going 305 when my stockers wear out so hopefully that will be about perfect. Z1 are great people with good service. I'm sure their bolt-ons are fine. I did H&R bolt-ons which seemed the most popular and they're great too. Good luck with the choice. Your drop looks good.

mab864 05-04-2014 09:32 AM

My 20mm H&R hubcentric bolt-ons worked just fine on the front. No rubbing like in loiro370z's pic. I read about some of them not working too but H&R seems to be fine on my '13 with the sport package.

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 09:32 AM

mab864 are you lowered? And what size wheels are you running now? Also did you have 20mm bolt-ons in the front?
Appreciate the help!

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MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 09:36 AM

Wow that's really good to know as I also have '13 sports package, I'm thinking I should be fine with 20mm bolt on up front, I'll still confirm with z1. Rear I'm still debating, when you said 25mm stuck out 1/4inch were you lowered?

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loiro370z 05-04-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MagmaREDZilla (Post 2806197)
Thank you for the heads up loiro370z, but as I was going through the forum I some where read 20mm+ bolt-on would be just fine. I'll also speak to Z1 tomorrow before ordering anything. Are there any rubbing issues in the rear while certain situations?

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Nope,
No rubbing under any situations.
For some people the the 20mm Bolt-on work fine.Not for me
When pushing the car hard,I feel more confident with stud replacement in front.

mab864 05-04-2014 10:15 AM

No lower and no camber. To clarify, I think the 25mm looked better on the rear with the 275 Potenzas, but I changed them out because my next set of tires will be 305's out back. I sorta wish I would have kept the 25mm spacers out back until I made the switch but I already sold them here on the forum. I think on the stock tires and stock Rays 20mm front and 25mm out back is the way to go.

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 10:23 AM

Thank you folks, so far I'm leaning towards 20mm front 25mm rear set up because I'm planning on staying with the stock rays for quite a while. will have the Z aligned right after installing spacers as I didn't do an alignment after installing the springs and camber kit. Will post up the pics ASAP.

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tnav 05-04-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MagmaREDZilla (Post 2806259)
Thank you folks, so far I'm leaning towards 20mm front 25mm rear set up because I'm planning on staying with the stock rays for quite a while. will have the Z aligned right after installing spacers as I didn't do an alignment after installing the springs and camber kit. Will post up the pics ASAP.

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I have 20mm Bolt on Front and Back, I think they are way too heavy for me, car looks perfect though. I am going to replace them with extended studs and maybe 10mm front and back

equalme 05-04-2014 11:18 AM

20/25 on swifts here. Was on stock rays but Michelin pss tires which runs a little wider than the potenza. Perfect aggressive stance

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tnav (Post 2806300)
I have 20mm Bolt on Front and Back, I think they are way too heavy for me, car looks perfect though. I am going to replace them with extended studs and maybe 10mm front and back

What do you mean when you say they are too heavy for you? And did you have any trouble installing 20mm Bolton in front like others have mentioned earlier?

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MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by equalme (Post 2806305)
20/25 on swifts here. Was on stock rays but Michelin pss tires which runs a little wider than the potenza. Perfect aggressive stance

Ok I'm pretty much sold on 20/25 but do you think you might have had any issue if you were .5" more lower than swifts?


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cruzthepug 05-04-2014 02:32 PM

This may be a stupid question, but if you just install bolt on spacers at stock height (no spring change), would that require an alignment?

b15 05-04-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MagmaREDZilla (Post 2806359)
Ok I'm pretty much sold on 20/25 but do you think you might have had any issue if you were .5" more lower than swifts?


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Yes I'm pretty sure 25mm rear will rub unless you dial in negative camber to tuck the top of the wheel. I run 20mm bolt ons all around on Swifts with no issues.

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Originally Posted by cruzthepug (Post 2806422)
This may be a stupid question, but if you just install bolt on spacers at stock height (no spring change), would that require an alignment?

No.

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2806432)
Yes I'm pretty sure 25mm rear will rub unless you dial in negative camber to tuck the top of the wheel. I run 20mm bolt ons all around on Swifts with no issues.


No.

Thanks for your input b15, I do have rear camber kit but I would like to stay in factory spec as much as I can due to tire wear. Which bolt on did you go up with up front?

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MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 03:00 PM

Could anybody with a lower drop or coilovers confirm that 25mm in rear will rub?

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b15 05-04-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MagmaREDZilla (Post 2806440)
Thanks for your input b15, I do have rear camber kit but I would like to stay in factory spec as much as I can due to tire wear. Which bolt on did you go up with up front?

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If you want factory camber specs with your drop, I'm almost certain you'll rub in the rear with 25mm

I have Z1 bolt ons f/r

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2806444)
If you want factory camber specs with your drop, I'm almost certain you'll rub in the rear with 25mm

I have Z1 bolt ons f/r

Then I might just go with 20mm all around b15, how do you like them Z1's? I hear good things about their products all around.

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synolimit 05-04-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MagmaREDZilla (Post 2806441)
Could anybody with a lower drop or coilovers confirm that 25mm in rear will rub?

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I'm 28 out from OEM and don't rub lower than swifts.

synolimit 05-04-2014 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 2806174)
You do not plan on tracking this car I assume.

Curious for your reasoning behind this.

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2806456)
I'm 28 out from OEM and don't rub lower than swifts.

Damnn that sounds insane synolimit! What are you dropped on and any pics of the 28mm ?:D

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MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2806458)
Curious for your reasoning behind this.

I'm guessing he assumed that due to me putting bolt-on spacers in front? I do hear that you have to keep re-torquing them every couple of hundred miles

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b15 05-04-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MagmaREDZilla (Post 2806451)
Then I might just go with 20mm all around b15, how do you like them Z1's? I hear good things about their products all around.

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I've been happy with Z1. Ordered a few things from them and shipping is always quick. You'll need a thin wall socket for the spacers and yes, re-torque after 100miles or so just like you would re-torque your lugs.

Z-Girl 12 05-04-2014 03:51 PM

I am running 20/25 mm rear on coils...no regrets.

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 2806483)
I am running 20/25 mm rear on coils...no regrets.

Z-girl approximately how much is your drop? Also are you running the stock sports? An rubbing issue? Pics would be nice also. Thank you for the input. Really trying to get 25mm's in rear.

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synolimit 05-04-2014 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MagmaREDZilla (Post 2806462)
Damnn that sounds insane synolimit! What are you dropped on and any pics of the 28mm ?:D

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Spl mid links with swift racing 2.5" ID, 6", 10kg linear springs lowered to 26.2" on 285/35/18's. It's over an inch from OEM. Plenty of room at only -1.5 camber.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps68a3231a.jpg

synolimit 05-04-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MagmaREDZilla (Post 2806464)
I'm guessing he assumed that due to me putting bolt-on spacers in front? I do hear that you have to keep re-torquing them every couple of hundred miles

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No you don't. You don't re torque wheels every couple hundred do you? This is why I asked him. I don't like bad info.

synolimit 05-04-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MagmaREDZilla (Post 2806485)
Z-girl approximately how much is your drop? Also are you running the stock sports? An rubbing issue? Pics would be nice also. Thank you for the input. Really trying to get 25mm's in rear.

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Dude there's so much room it's not even funny. You do not have to worry about rubbing on these cars for any setup. Unless you do a gay coilover and slam 3"

Z-Girl 12 05-04-2014 04:21 PM

Tons of pics in my mods album...2.5 with rays and 20 mm front and 25 mm rear. When I was dropped to 3" only for a day they rubbed alot on turns. No rubbing in front or rear on 2.5" drop...great thing about coils you can play with the ride heigth to get what you want.

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2806501)
Dude there's so much room it's not even funny. You do not have to worry about rubbing on these cars for any setup. Unless you do a gay coilover and slam 3"

Thanks synolimit, clean ride btw I'll be going with 25mm rears.

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MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Z-Girl 12 (Post 2806505)
Tons of pics in my mods album...2.5 with rays and 20 mm front and 25 mm rear. When I was dropped to 3" only for a day they rubbed alot on turns. No rubbing in front or rear on 2.5" drop...great thing about coils you can play with the ride heigth to get what you want.

Thank you Z-girl, digging the stance.

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MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 04:43 PM

Thanks fellas, I'll be ordering z1 bolt ons and going with 20/25 set up.

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loiro370z 05-04-2014 05:32 PM

Here another pix,20 and 25.
[IMG]http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...504_130137.jpg[/IMG]

loiro370z 05-04-2014 05:33 PM

[IMG]http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...504_130100.jpg[/IMG]

MagmaREDZilla 05-04-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by loiro370z (Post 2806538)
Here another pix,20 and 25.
[IMG]http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...504_130137.jpg[/IMG]

Looks real good loiro370z! What kind of lip is that?





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loiro370z 05-04-2014 06:47 PM

EVO-R Carbon fiber center


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