Nissan VP of product planning drops hints of possible next Z and iDX?

daisuke149

I just feel a 100lb weight drop and 30hp isnt enough to compete.

Mustang Gt, Camaro ss, 1le, etc. priced well / better in most cases and kick our cars butts in performance.

It needs to push 400+

I dont just want a good car, i want a good car that competes.

Firebase99

I disagree. Remember the Z is a two seat coupe (or should be in the Z35 as well). i think a sub 3000 pound car with 350hp would do just fine. Look at the Lotus.

falconfixer

I heard that the next-gen GTR is getting a whole new engine spitting out 800hp and the next-gen Z will get a hand-me-down engine from the R35.

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Firebase99

The first part is correct at least.

Drakonis GTR

I was wondering if Nissan would try to get the GTR up there HP-wise with the other super-sport exotics. Not to say that the GTR doesn't have the goods to run with the big boys, but the 800 HP mark seems to be the fad with the SSE crowd. I wonder how much higher the price tag will be with that change...

As for the next Z, I am indeed curious as to which direction they go with the engine. I am also curious as to whether they will name it in regards to engine displacement, as per tradition, or if they will go the route of the Q50/Q70 and just tack on a higher number so as to give the car the impression of progressing.

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Eclipz

Yea but lotus cars weigh 2400 lbs and are mid-engined cars purposefully built for the track. The Z35 will be no lotus. It wont hurt for the Z to drop a few hundred pounds, but a power boost is expected.

daisuke149

when Nissan puts the same lightweight materials into the chassis and makes it super small and cramped, and sells the car for 70k+

then yes, you would be correct its a great car.

but when you put the Z at 30k. and its competitive 30k cars can whip it around. I want the Z to be a good car and competitive.

Jordo!

There's continual rumors of a boosted option, so there might be one approaching (or even exceeding) 400 bhp, but it will probably be an option that pushes the price up towards 40+K...

I don't know what those big hp muscle cars go for, but if that's the price point, Nissan will probably just pass it with similar performance (regardless of pure engine output) rather than just come under it.

I mean, never say never, but I just don't see (nor has there been discussion of in a while) a completely new Z platform, entirely divorced from the Q chassis and drivetrain, happening within a year.

But, they could further improve the cd, making it more slippery, give it a modest bump in power, improve the overall tune, and shed a lot of weight, resulting in a vastly refined sports car without developing something entirely new.

In the end, their probable goal will first and foremost be to exceed the performance metrics (e.g. 0-60, braking) of the current Z -- they may or may not worry about fighting the higher end versions of Detroit muscle.

And, really, if they can keep the car in the 30's and outpace the twins, it will still be the better deal there while a suped up idX can pick up the folks with less coin to throw around who want a pocket-rocket.

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daisuke149

the thing is the mustang gt with track pack will out run us for 30k. the nismo costs as much as a boss 302 and 1le which completely out run it.

I understand that the Z is a 2 seaters and in the way it drives, much better. but that doesnt stop it from constantly being compared etc and falling behind competitively.

I would also prefer they just make basically 2 models.

Sport and GT.
all the go fast stuff with no frills = sport
all the go fast stuff with all the frills = gt.

NISMO = more go faster stuff

less configurations = lower cost

because keep in mind a touring + nav + sport is 42k ish. nismo is 42 and can be optioned to i believe 46ish. a fully loaded conv is 48k ish. a new stingray was 51k (now 53k)

like i said. They will definitely make it better than the current model. I just want it to be competitive also in the market. (the cayman, which was the target, with the current revision is quite far ahead of the z34 now)

UNKNOWN_370

I feel the Z will put out a Z that will push for a new Cayman/Z battle in R&T and MT.

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