Targa / T-Top 370Z

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If a targa or a t-top was offered for the 370Z, would you consider either one? Or would you just go with a regular convertible?


If a targa top was offered, I'd definitely go with that.

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I love my see through T-tops...simple minds fascinate easily. A Targa seems much easier on paper, but alas Nissan has declined.

I was writing Santa when I heard the official spec.- no sunroof -no moonroof -no T-tops and lastly no Targa...dear diary fffffd again!

That rant aside, I love the potential of the new 370Z.

I keep flexing my right ankel/foot in anticipation...see you at the dealership.

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Slidefox

T-Tops are for Trans-Ams.... A Targa, like the Supras, would be awesome!!

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I had T-tops in a camaro I previously owned and I hated it! Most annoying feature in a car. I have never taken it off during my whole ownership of the car. so, t-top = scratch.

Targa is something I would consider. They look nice. I have seen Corvettes with targa and I like them.



I do like the LOOK of the convertibles but performance wise they are less rigid and heavier (due to boot). Still they are great weekend cars though. When driving alongside the mountains or rivers, you can't beat the convertible.

Coupe is the winner!

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Toast

I think the differences between convertibles and coupes are so small you`re never going to feel it unless you`re on a racetrack, in a helmet, pushing the car to its limit and barely sticking to the tarmac. Everybody cites this `rigidity` thing with convertibles only because motoring journalists continually point it out so we all imagine we`re feeling that lack of rigidity, but we`re not because most people never drive that hard. Yes, the 0-60 time is slightly slower because of the extra weight (which was added to `rigidise` it), so in fact its no less rigid at all, but if we`re talking about driving experience, well you feel more speed with no roof, and you can hear your engine better.

Crash

That depends on the car still. The corvette has a full chassis. There are cars that only have half frames (Like F-Bodies and mustangs).

But more importantly, there's a HUGE difference between convertibles and roadsters: Roadsters were designed to be topless. Their frames are tough from the get-go. Convertibles, however, are usually an afterthought. Hence the extra crap on them to make them more rigid... But that doesn't mean they're as rigid as a coupe.

BTW, I felt the lack of stiffness in my Trans Am which was a T-Top. That frame flexed and twisted like it was NOTHING. Taking turn, or going up and down drive ways was a fantastic reminder how crappy the half frames were. It felt slightly better when the tops were on, but not much. And the car DESPERATELY needed sub-frame connectors which I'd never got around to doing.

You can certainly feel rigidity in a car, convertible vs. coupe. You CAN feel that. Added weight is a mute point, but for racing, convertible isn't the smartest idea (suspension and rigidity wise)

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Toast

Well, look I don`t want to argue with you on your Trans-Am and whether it had any build quality issues - I haven`t driven one so can`t comment. And you`re right it depends upon the car; and right again that once long ago, roadsters were different from convertibles, were different from coupes. But its 2008 now and things are different, and I just want to make the broad point that you should never underestimate the power of suggestion.

Try this experiment: hand someone a glass of wine and ask them what they think of it. Then when they are halfway down the glass hand them the tasting notes that the experts have written - the bit that says it`s got strong fruit tastes, or maybe even figs and is a little over-oaked. Of course people are going to say "Oh yes, I can clearly pick out figs, no problem" because nobody wants to feel foolish or unrefined by having missed it.

Similar with car journalists. Try and find an article on a convertible (or roadster) that doesn`t open up with the old hard-top vs. rigidity thing. And so people imagine they can feel it in all sorts of cars that are built stiffer these days.

Your 0-60 isn`t a moot point by the way - if acceleration is all you want, buy a hard-top (or a faster car, even). For racing, like you (and I) said, that`s when you push a car to its limit - that`s when you`ll feel it. But not when you`re off to WalMart for the shopping.

frost

As a former F-bod owner myself, I know the pains of body flex with the T-tops. In fact, body flex was so bad that I remember a couple people on the boards actually twisting the bodies enough for the T's to actually come out of place and fall to the ground. Subframe connectors were my first purchase which helped out a lot.
That being said, it definitely depends on the car, because both my c5 and c6 vette had a "removable" (not allowed to call it a targa because that name is owned by porche) top and felt stiff as hell, even with the top off. Just depends on the money invested into the car by the manufacturer.

Threev8s

I'd trade up for a retractable glass-top targa similar to what Porsche uses in the 911 if it was reasonably priced. I just don't think Nissan could ever justify the cost to engineer it for the quantity that they would expect to sell.

shumby

targa top FTW

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nogoodname

T-Top.....lol......... reminds me of the Camaros and Trans-AMs from back in the day........

the 80's called and said you can use the T-Top.....

frcefed

Targa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NorCalZman

T-tops for sure. I love them on my Shiro. But hey 20 years worth of progress will eventually get me to upgrade to a 370Z. Ill miss the Z31 AND its t-tops though.

Namir

Targa FTW!
like the original Viper.

the 300zx

And the supra.


NSX, Carrera GT, Corvette.... removable hard tops are awesome. You get the best of both worlds and best of all, you don't need that hideous cloth top!

nogoodname

convertibles are just ugly with the top up............. they should change it to a targa top