6 Cars With 300-Plus Horsepower That You Can Still Buy for Under $30,000

Arrvaxx · 03-23-2014, 01:45 PM

6 Cars With 300-Plus Horsepower That You Can Still Buy for Under $30,000 (F, FIATY, GM, HYMTF, NSANY)

jcosta79 · 03-23-2014, 02:07 PM

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PapoZalsa · 03-24-2014, 09:41 PM

All of them where 6 Cyl Muscle Cars that will not move that weight. The best two non-muscle were the Genesis and Z. Of course the Z was the best in the list.

Elan · 03-25-2014, 07:57 AM

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All of them where 6 Cyl Muscle Cars that will not move that weight. The best two non-muscle were the Genesis and Z. Of course the Z was the best in the list.

Exactly what I thought.

DEpointfive0 · 03-25-2014, 08:04 AM

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All of them where 6 Cyl Muscle Cars that will not move that weight. The best two non-muscle were the Genesis and Z. Of course the Z was the best in the list.

But you CAN buy a 5.0 for less than $30k as well

Granted, MSRP is $31,xxx, but invoice is still $28,xxx

Chuck33079 · 03-25-2014, 08:07 AM

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But you CAN buy a 5.0 for less than $30k as well

Yep, all day long. All of those prices were based on MSRP. You'd have to be the easiest mark on the planet to pay within $5k of msrp for a Ford or Chevy. I don't know if Dodge has that much wiggle room since I wouldn't buy a Chrysler product at gunpoint.

DEpointfive0 · 03-25-2014, 08:08 AM

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Yep, all day long. All of those prices were based on MSRP. You'd have to be the easiest mark on the planet to pay within $5k of msrp for a Ford or Chevy. I don't know if Dodge has that much wiggle room since I wouldn't buy a Chrysler Fiat product at gunpoint.

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Chuck33079 · 03-25-2014, 08:09 AM

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That's the funny thing- Chrysler was so bad, that the Italians improved them.

theDreamer · 03-25-2014, 08:20 AM

Also, this list will be vastly different in the next 8 months.
Between the new Mustang coming out soon, an updated camaro frame (lighter with same power), and a line change at Nissan depending on what they end up doing (IDx and Z). 20k might buy you some nice power while 30k takes you into the 400+ range then.

DEpointfive0 · 03-25-2014, 08:25 AM

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Also, this list will be vastly different in the next 8 months.
Between the new Mustang coming out soon, an updated camaro frame (lighter with same power), and a line change at Nissan depending on what they end up doing (IDx and Z). 20k might buy you some nice power while 30k takes you into the 400+ range then.

IDX won't be close to 300hp, I bet not more than 250, and I can't see the Z getting more power. I see lighter.

Again. 30k already gets you a 5.0 which is nicely over 400HP

theDreamer · 03-25-2014, 08:28 AM

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IDX won't be close to 300hp, I bet not more than 250, and I can't see the Z getting more power. I see lighter.

Again. 30k already gets you a 5.0 which is nicely over 400HP

Well that is what I am getting at though, the real break down soon will be this.
20k will give you 250HP
30k will give you 400HP or more

Nissan needs to see this or they will lose, even with less weight. The 30k class is being split and you either drop down to a lower bracket or you have to pump up your power to compete. Not saying Nissan needs 500HP to compete but it really needs to be at 400HP starting in its current trim.

Also, thought Nissan dealers had to have a GT-R certified tech AND a sales rep who has been trained to sell the GT-R. I know a few of the Nissan dealers in Houston are not GT-R certified and they cannot sell a GT-R (because I asked).

Arrvaxx · 03-25-2014, 08:34 AM

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IDX won't be close to 300hp, I bet not more than 250, and I can't see the Z getting more power. I see lighter.

Again. 30k already gets you a 5.0 which is nicely over 400HP

I'm starting to wonder if Nissan is going to pull a truly brilliant move...Use the IDX to compete with the BRZ and then use the GTR 3.8L with a Nismo turbo option for a 380Z.

LOOK I can dream damn it!

Chuck33079 · 03-25-2014, 08:36 AM

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I'm starting to wonder if Nissan is going to pull a truly brilliant move...Use the IDX to compete with the BRZ and then use the GTR 3.8L with a Nismo turbo option for a 380Z.

LOOK I can dream damn it!

You're half right for sure.

theDreamer · 03-25-2014, 08:40 AM

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I'm starting to wonder if Nissan is going to pull a truly brilliant move...Use the IDX to compete with the BRZ and then use the GTR 3.8L with a Nismo turbo option for a 380Z.

LOOK I can dream damn it!

They could not build the engine fast enough, espeically if Infiniti is getting the engine in its sedan soon.

DEpointfive0 · 03-25-2014, 08:42 AM

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They could not build the engine fast enough, espeically if Infiniti is getting the engine in its sedan soon.

AMG makes 50 times more handmade engines than Nissan does, so no excuse there. I just have a feeling Nissan won't be making them by hand anymore or maybe for the Infiniti they won't make them by hand.

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