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Originally Posted by theDreamer They could not build the engine fast enough, espeically if Infiniti is getting the engine in its sedan soon. It was the Infiniti that got me

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Old 03-25-2014, 08:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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They could not build the engine fast enough, espeically if Infiniti is getting the engine in its sedan soon.
It was the Infiniti that got me thinking about the idea. There is no reason you couldn't make a mass produced version of the 3.8. It is hand made because of the demand for a certain level of perfection, that's all.

The only thing that keeps me from being really excited about the idea is the direction designs by all makers are going. Really not a fan of the angular look. The IDX is growing on me but the look is going to get old really fast. Something tells me that the new Z is not going to have me rushing to sell my 40th based on its look.
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm starting to wonder if Nissan is going to pull a truly brilliant move...Use the IDX to compete with the BRZ and then use the GTR 3.8L with a Nismo turbo option for a 380Z.

LOOK I can dream damn it!
Not sure I would consider this a brilliant move...Apologies for saying so.

IDX to compete with BRZ = Good Idea
GTR 3.8L Turbo for a 380Z = Bad idea

I am a big fan of more power but not if it makes the front end of the Z more of a boat anchor then it is presently. I dream of 50/50 weight distribution despite Nissans marketing that the current weight distribution is better.

If I were a dreamer they would shave off 100 lbs + of the block and stroke it out to 4.2L + (making up numbers) making North of 375 HP and focus the rest of the dollars on chassis weight savings. Imagine a 3000 lbs 375 HP Z with a 50/50 weight distribution. Oh yeah and they should also make the suspension on the Z fully adjustable from stock. Look at the Mazda Rx8 chassis...You don't need camber arms. Finally, a better LSD and lower driving position.

I know its blasphemy because I like the 3.7L but I think a whole new engine is in order. Lighter, smaller, and more powerful. I would prefer NOT to have a 4 cylinder Turbo but if it sounds good then I could be convinced. What if they make a super light version of the old inline 6 and turbo it...uuuuuuuuu yummy.

I wish Nissan would 1 up Chevy's LS and build a whole new v8 that is lighter/smaller with the same power levels then put that into the Z.

Just dreaming.
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All you have to do is look at F1 and their new sound with the engine change this year. I don't think you will get the sound out of the 4 cyl turbo that you are looking for. Another note to add is they have stated that the IPL badge will actually mean something on the next model. And it was rumored to be that it would get the 3.8 Turbo. I know how rumors go but they have to do something with the Nismo and IPL badges. It has to mean more than just a bodykit. They want to compete with the AMG, M series, and CTS-V with the IPL. So if they drop a better powerplant in the Infiniti I don't see why the Nismo can't receive the same treatment.
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Not sure I would consider this a brilliant move...Apologies for saying so.

IDX to compete with BRZ = Good Idea
GTR 3.8L Turbo for a 380Z = Bad idea

I am a big fan of more power but not if it makes the front end of the Z more of a boat anchor then it is presently. I dream of 50/50 weight distribution despite Nissans marketing that the current weight distribution is better.

If I were a dreamer they would shave off 100 lbs + of the block and stroke it out to 4.2L + (making up numbers) making North of 375 HP and focus the rest of the dollars on chassis weight savings. Imagine a 3000 lbs 375 HP Z with a 50/50 weight distribution. Oh yeah and they should also make the suspension on the Z fully adjustable from stock. Look at the Mazda Rx8 chassis...You don't need camber arms. Finally, a better LSD and lower driving position.

I know its blasphemy because I like the 3.7L but I think a whole new engine is in order. Lighter, smaller, and more powerful. I would prefer NOT to have a 4 cylinder Turbo but if it sounds good then I could be convinced. What if they make a super light version of the old inline 6 and turbo it...uuuuuuuuu yummy.

I wish Nissan would 1 up Chevy's LS and build a whole new v8 that is lighter/smaller with the same power levels then put that into the Z.

Just dreaming.
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Apparently maintaining them ain't cheap either. But nothing I've ever driven scared me more than fish tailing that beast in a corner..
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The maintenance cost of a car is always tied to its original msrp, not what you buy it for used.
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But...but...I only bought it for 30k, why is it so expensive, I did not buy it new at 100k.
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But...but...I only bought it for 30k, why is it so expensive, I did not buy it new at 100k.


It's the reason (well, the reason that's not "automatic transmission") why I was unwilling to consider a used GTR.
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