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frost 09-19-2009 01:54 PM

Whew. I've never driven one that had a locking cap. good to hear they are finally ont he bandwagon.

ZKindaGuy 09-19-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 204824)
no issues to report as of yet, no CELs and no water build up given a normal washing at the house...

another good thing, it has been raining everday the past week and no water build up from the rain either...



i dont believe there is any, why i say that is because if there was evap then I would get CELs...

Just started using the STINT 3 weeks ago. Upto today I have done nothing but short mileage runs with the 370Z with no SES......Did a long trip of 160 miles and the SES (Service Engine Soon) light with an error code of:

P0456 [EVAP] Very small evaporation leak in fuel system - less than .02-inches. Check fuel cap.

This is what my diagnostic reader picked up, I just cleared the code using the diagnostics device. So I do believe that using the STINT MAY cause an SES under long continuous driving trip conditions.

The literature seems to support this as well as there are reports of people that use a STINT device in other vehicle models and have gotten the same occassional SES error as identified above.

kdo2milger 09-20-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 205317)
Just started using the STINT 3 weeks ago. Upto today I have done nothing but short mileage runs with the 370Z with no SES......Did a long trip of 160 miles and the SES (Service Engine Soon) light with an error code of:

P0456 [EVAP] Very small evaporation leak in fuel system - less than .02-inches. Check fuel cap.

This is what my diagnostic reader picked up, I just cleared the code using the diagnostics device. So I do believe that using the STINT MAY cause an SES under long continuous driving trip conditions.

The literature seems to support this as well as there are reports of people that use a STINT device in other vehicle models and have gotten the same occassional SES error as identified above.

interesting, thanks for the update...i myself havent been on any long trips, just to and from work...

i wonder if a trip to Austin will trigger a CEL...

frost 09-20-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 205545)
interesting, thanks for the update...i myself havent been on any long trips, just to and from work...

i wonder if a trip to Austin will trigger a CEL...

Let us know. I'm interested in it, but I already have a fear of gas evap (which I already voiced) and ZKindaGuy kinda proved.

VCuomo 09-20-2009 05:47 PM

Why not just use the hook on the gas filler door (g96818 pointed this out too)?

frost 09-20-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 206032)
Why not just use the hook on the gas filler door (g96818 pointed this out too)?

Not sure if you're talking to me, or just asking the question in general, but I don't exactly like touching it. It would be kind of cool to get away from that.

kdo2milger 09-20-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 206059)
Not sure if you're talking to me, or just asking the question in general, but I don't exactly like touching it. It would be kind of cool to get away from that.

:iagree: i like the touchless method

VCuomo 09-20-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 206059)
Not sure if you're talking to me, or just asking the question in general, but I don't exactly like touching it. It would be kind of cool to get away from that.

Sorry frost, it was a general question, not directed at you. Plus I'm not sure how many realize that the hook is there, so I thought I'd point it out.

kdo2milger 09-20-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 206102)
Sorry frost, it was a general question, not directed at you. Plus I'm not sure how many realize that the hook is there.

i used the hook and my cap always touched the door :shakes head: no matter which way i hung it...

frost 09-20-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 206102)
Sorry frost, it was a general question, not directed at you. Plus I'm not sure how many realize that the hook is there, so I thought I'd point it out.

No problem mate, I didn't take any offense. Most of the time I'm filling up when going to work in my business clothes, and it's a bad time to get dirty hands from my fuel cap. Even though I wash in there, phoenix dust gets back in pretty quickly.

VCuomo 09-21-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 206109)
i used the hook and my cap always touched the door :shakes head: no matter which way i hung it...

It would be touching the inside of the door, not the outside (visible side) of the door, no?

Seems like most people didn't like the gas cap hanging down and touching the fender, so the hook would work in that case.

schrute 09-27-2009 11:20 PM

About 3 weeks and 3 fill-ups on both my Z and the wife's Xterra with the InStant Fill gas cap with no CEL's or any other issues - just (slightly) easier fill-ups.

On the Z a tiny bit of water will pool on the flap door during rain or a car wash (due to the angle the cap sits at), but not enough to worry about at all IMO.

Rps13.jw 11-29-2009 12:51 AM

My concern would be the fuel vapors eating away the paint if the cap somehow malfunctions. Otherwise nice writeup

kdo2milger 11-29-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rps13.jw (Post 299427)
My concern would be the fuel vapors eating away the paint if the cap somehow malfunctions. Otherwise nice writeup

:tiphat: thank you jw...

guess i could use this opportunity to do a follow up:

well have had it now for a few months and havent had a cel yet...

i have noticed that if i use a high pressure touchless car wash that i will get a little build up in the opening...nothing drastic, and nothing a paper towel wont take care of...

all in all im glad i made the switch and really dont see why all vehicles dont have this same type of setup...

Zdom 11-29-2009 11:29 AM

Liked it to
 
I was it on someones picture gallery and bought one. Works great! and the price I thought was very reasonable.

CBRich 11-29-2009 11:51 AM

I also purchased this cap and have had no issues. I like not having to touch the cap and also keeps it from rubbing against the fender which happened even when hanging it on the door.

Modshack 11-29-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rps13.jw (Post 299427)
My concern would be the fuel vapors eating away the paint if the cap somehow malfunctions. Otherwise nice writeup

Huh? That is the strangest concern I've ever heard....

Does gasoline eat away paint? (the answer is NO).......

My Stant's been working just fine for months now..

simota1 02-17-2010 06:21 PM

KDO!!! thanks i jus got my stant cap today and its super kool lol :D rep added for showing this to our forum

Modshack 02-18-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 299938)

My Stant's been working just fine for months now..

Guess I need to rescind that.....The door flap inside the cap fell off a few weeks ago. Maybe only 5-6 uses too....:shakes head:

antman22 02-18-2010 09:34 AM

does anyone have a photo of this door flap? i dont know if i have ever seen it on my Z...i'm assuming its just a metal flap that swings open when you insert the fuel pump, but i have never noticed it on my Z.

Modshack 02-18-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 299938)
Huh? That is the strangest concern I've ever heard....

Does gasoline eat away paint? (the answer is NO).......

My Stant's been working just fine for months now..

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Originally Posted by antman22 (Post 406524)
does anyone have a photo of this door flap? i dont know if i have ever seen it on my Z...i'm assuming its just a metal flap that swings open when you insert the fuel pump, but i have never noticed it on my Z.

The Z has no flap. The Stant cap does though.

antman22 02-18-2010 09:41 AM

Thanks Mod!

Hrm, I think I may get one of these Stant caps, mighty tempting....

simota1 02-18-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 406474)
Guess I need to rescind that.....The door flap inside the cap fell off a few weeks ago. Maybe only 5-6 uses too....:shakes head:

whoa so it fell inside your tank? how did it break?

Modshack 02-18-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 406864)
whoa so it fell inside your tank? how did it break?

The pins on the flap popped out of the pivot point on the Cap. It just dropped down to where the metal necks down for the filler. I didn't even notice it at first, but the nozzle wouldn't go in all the way. Unscrewed the Stant Cap and fished it out. Looks intact so I may try to fix it...

flashburn 02-18-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 406946)
The pins on the flap popped out of the pivot point on the Cap. It just dropped down to where the metal necks down for the filler. I didn't even notice it at first, but the nozzle wouldn't go in all the way. Unscrewed the Stant Cap and fished it out. Looks intact so I may try to fix it...

So it sounds like it is impossible for the flap to actually fall through into your tank, correct? If not, that would be kind of scary.

GT Motoring 02-18-2010 04:59 PM

The Z doesnt have a metal flap? That is strange cause most of my Hondas have a little metal flap from what I recall.

flashburn 02-18-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GT Motoring (Post 406998)
The Z doesnt have a metal flap? That is strange cause most of my Hondas have a little metal flap from what I recall.

No, they don't. If you search you will find a few threads where people have asked this same thing. Even one where a guy said his (non-existent) flap fell in the gas tank! :rofl2:

simota1 02-18-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 406986)
So it sounds like it is impossible for the flap to actually fall through into your tank, correct? If not, that would be kind of scary.

thats really scary if it falls in....

xgrudgex 03-27-2011 02:32 PM

Hey I just purchased this cap and yeah..... sux! Can fill my tank without having to hold onto it. It pops cntinuously if I just let it go. Unless I'm filling on a pump without that black hood.
Anyone else have to same issues? Any way to fix this?

flashburn 03-27-2011 03:27 PM

Mine is still working good. Occasionally I have to re-tighten in because it throws an error code, but it only happens about once every six months.

simota1 03-27-2011 05:45 PM

mine broke a couple months ago.... stupid cap lol

kdo2milger 03-27-2011 06:05 PM

ya its a pos!

it lasted me a whopping few months and the stupid spring lid kept popping off!!!

and ya i thought it was going to fall straight down into the tank :O

i called "stant" and they pretty much blew me off, said i needed to return it to the place of purchase to have it replaced!!!

screw stant until they fix the jacked up pos of a gas cap...

i tried to help them by telling them it was great for the first few months, then slowly started to self destruct, but they weren't interested in my feedback as a "customer" so screw em!!!

i put the oem back on and haven't looked back...

maybe i should delete this thread lol

flashburn 03-27-2011 07:39 PM

That's a shame. Are there any other caps like this from a different manufacturer? I'd probably just buy the same one if mine starts acting up. Can't look back now! :rofl2:

jpit 03-28-2011 12:24 AM

I've had mine for over a year and no problems at all.

simota1 03-28-2011 09:09 AM

maybe stant has some qc issues.... cuz some peoples own breaks fast and others last really long? technically i only had mine for 3000k miles.... i always pumped my own gas and was always careful when i inserted the gas nosil but it still broke :(

flashburn 03-28-2011 09:35 AM

I've used mine for something like 20K miles, so yeah, I dunno. I'm not careful at all, just "wam, bam, thank you ma'am".

simota1 03-28-2011 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1016349)
I've used mine for something like 20K miles, so yeah, I dunno. I'm not careful at all, just "wam, bam, thank you ma'am".

maybe i was babying it to much ill probably just get another one and just beat that gas cap up lol

BeachZTT 03-28-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by simota1 (Post 1016375)
maybe i was babying it to much ill probably just get another one and just beat that gas cap up lol


Well, you know she likes it rough... :eekdance:

simota1 03-28-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BeachZTT (Post 1016597)
Well, you know she likes it rough... :eekdance:

:bowrofl:

FromG2Z 03-28-2011 02:43 PM

I was thinking about doing this, but sounds like there are some quality issues with the product and/or effects on CEL?

Any other products similar to, but better?

The tether design on our stock gas cap is bad. Where is the cap supposed to hang?!?!?!? So I have to hold it the whole time with my right hand as I fill up with the left.... terrible.


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