Nismo Vs. Non-Nismo

Blown32 · 08-31-2009, 10:50 AM

Not worth the money unless all you are looking for is "bragging rights of owning a Nismo"!
It's a shame but Nissan dropped the ball on this one.Of course it is a good marketing gig for them as many of there parts are.I also question the 18hp they rate there performance exhaust at?Seriously doubt that there as good as some aftermarket set ups?
I always believed the Japs were on top of there game but maybe they have picked up on how easy we are in america!We are easy game for gimmicks and with the issues of the 370 and now the Nismo I believe they have caught on to us!
I must say the Gismo or should I say the Nismo is a good looking car but way over priced.

DooDooBrown · 08-31-2009, 11:18 AM

IMO, the NISMO is just over the top.... I don't like it, looks too rice...

skydvr · 08-31-2009, 03:16 PM

havasuwiley · 08-31-2009, 04:08 PM

i like the rear of the nismo,but for my money,sport tour +stillen adds is my cup of tea,

Red370 · 08-31-2009, 04:23 PM

Agreed, a base+full bolt ons will cost less, make much much more power, and not have pre drilled holes for NISMO parts, should you decide to use other kits etc. Aesthetically theyre sexy, but far far too overpriced.

bullitt5897 · 08-31-2009, 04:35 PM

Isnt the chassis welded to give it more rigidity like on the 350z?

NIZMOZ · 08-31-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Isnt the chassis welded to give it more rigidity like on the 350z?

Nope. They left that off. I think that is why my NISMO felt way more stiff than the 370z NISMO I drove.

SMcK23 · 08-31-2009, 05:15 PM

Thanks guys, great answers. I think I will go with everyone's advice, touring + sport and an exhaust mod! This way I can keep the leather, sattelite radio, etc.

JoeD · 08-31-2009, 05:40 PM

A perfect example of what to do with for a high-performance, track-oriented model should be taken from GM with the base C5 versus the C5 Z06. I'll use the last 2004 model-year, for instance...the Z06 had an MSRP starting at $8,350 more than the base Coupe, slightly less than the $9,200 $Δ between the base 370Z and the NISMO. I know people are gonna say I should compare it to the 370 Sport but that makes no sense, plus I'm comparing the Z06 to the base C5, not the Z51 (an option-package similar to what Sport offers for the 370Z).

For the extra $8,350 for the Z06, you got:

55 more HP (LS6 engine, but fundamentally the same as the LS1)
Upgraded suspension (springs, shocks, sway-bars)
Revised gearing
Larger wheels/tires
Significant weight-savings (titanium exhaust, thinner glass, less sound-deadening)
Upgraded brakes
Functional brake cooling-ducts
Slightly different but not all that much better seats (like the NISMO)
A prettier looking tachometer (again, like the NISMO)

What you ended up with was a car that was significantly faster and handled much better than the base-model, making it one of the fastest cars you could buy on a track. There was absolutely no question about the performance benefits of the Z06 vs. the base as it was night-and-day...not so much with the NISMO.

The funny thing is, you have comparisons of different models such as this on every given forum, and the higher-end camp laughs it off saying the people defending the base-model are just bitter and/or couldn't afford the step up and/or are contriving excuses to justify their purchase when they secretly want the better version. I don't feel this is the case here with the 370Z Sport vs. NISMO. For the same price as the NISMO, it's foolish not to go with a fully-loaded Sport/Touring/Nav Z.

As stated...Nissan really dropped the ball on this one. All you're paying for is a body-kit, and a tacky looking one at that.

Shunya · 08-31-2009, 06:26 PM

yeha i want that tach

JoeD · 08-31-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shunya

yeha i want that tach

Eh...even if it's available at a reasonable price, it's not even worth the hassle of installing. The risks is disassembling the interior/gauge-cluster and perhaps breaking a clip or introducing a new squeak or rattle far outweigh the novelty of having "NISMO" on your tach. Plus, the black dial in the non-NISMO just flows better as it matches the speedometer.

I actually love the gauge-cluster in the Z...I couldn't really see how it could be upgraded. Wasn't the case for the MKIV Supra, though, seeing as to how the TRD 10K tachometer was one of the coolest and sought-after mods for the car.

The only thing I'd change would be to have 0 on the tach and speedo positioned at 6 o'clock, but now I'm just being silly...

THE_Gnizzil · 09-01-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname

Nismo = Seats + Bodykit + Rims + Muffler........that's pretty much it

And don't forget, the NISMO is also heavier

zZSportZz · 09-01-2009, 01:57 PM

I want the red engine cover

STI-GUY · 09-18-2009, 10:39 AM

ONe word- Warranty.
Not saying you can't get better gains from base plus mods, but unless your dealership is mod friendly, hope you know someone if your car goes boom.
I am not hating, if you are indeed ballin' on a budget and don't need a warranty then yes you can get better gains for less in the aftermarket.

For me not too many cars have me wanting to get rid of my STI, but the Z is def one of them and the NISMO Z is hot!

I have been there done that with the performance aftermarket world and I don't want to go down that road anymore.

I want a good bang for my buck sports car that's a good weekend warrior.

Make mine a WHITE NISMO PLEASE!

Outrun · 09-18-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname

but the mods on the Nismo give like what...5hp....lol

exhaust, intakes do nothing but noise...... it's a waste.

buying a nismo is for sake of owning a nismo... authenticity
and the exterior upgrades.....that's it.

2010 offers more hp...and I don't think it's a waste:

First Drive: 2010 Nissan 370Z Nismo simply rocks — Autoblog

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Meet the 2010 Nissan 370Z Nismo, far and away the best Z ever. This is the car enthusiasts have been hoping for ever since we learned that Nissan would be chopping four inches out of the Z's wheelbase and bumping the displacement by 0.2-liters over the outgoing 350Z. But the Nismo's even more than that. Really, the Nismo is the sports car the 370Z should have been right out of the box, but for various reasons isn't. One of those being that marketers have to hit their price points. Meaning that if the Z's competition (i.e. Mustang GT) sells for less than $30,000, Nissan has to sell something just as cheaply. This leads to all sorts of ironies, like oil coolers, big brakes and LSDs being options on supposed "sports cars." But the other reason is that the Nismo isn't for everyone. In fact, you probably wouldn't like it. Us? We love it.

Before we get to why we're so smitten, let's talk about what $40,000 gets you. On the outside you get a new, low-riding front clip that's missing the fish-fangs, a Porsche GT3-look spoiler, rear brake vents and 19-inch forged Nismo wheels. Inside, you get aggressive-look red stitching and cloth (hurray!) Nismo seats that are devoid of power adjustments. Trust us, you'll live. There's also a Nismo plaque on the door sill. So far, no big deal, but underneath is where the real magic happens. Thanks to an ECU re-flash and thicker-diameter H-pipe exhausts (as opposed to the X-pipe in the standard), the Nismo makes 18 more horsepower (for a total of 350 hp) and 4 extra torques (276 lb-ft). The Nismo also gets all new shocks, springs and sway bars, plus an LSD, lots of coolers and upgraded brakes. Add it all up and the sum is flippin' spectacular.

08-31-2009, 04:35 PM	#21 (permalink)
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08-31-2009, 05:40 PM	#24 (permalink)
JoeD Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA Posts: 495 Drives: Z Rep Power: 0	A perfect example of what to do with for a high-performance, track-oriented model should be taken from GM with the base C5 versus the C5 Z06. I'll use the last 2004 model-year, for instance...the Z06 had an MSRP starting at $8,350 more than the base Coupe, slightly less than the $9,200 $Δ between the base 370Z and the NISMO. I know people are gonna say I should compare it to the 370 Sport but that makes no sense, plus I'm comparing the Z06 to the base C5, not the Z51 (an option-package similar to what Sport offers for the 370Z). For the extra $8,350 for the Z06, you got: 55 more HP (LS6 engine, but fundamentally the same as the LS1) Upgraded suspension (springs, shocks, sway-bars) Revised gearing Larger wheels/tires Significant weight-savings (titanium exhaust, thinner glass, less sound-deadening) Upgraded brakes Functional brake cooling-ducts Slightly different but not all that much better seats (like the NISMO) A prettier looking tachometer (again, like the NISMO) What you ended up with was a car that was significantly faster and handled much better than the base-model, making it one of the fastest cars you could buy on a track. There was absolutely no question about the performance benefits of the Z06 vs. the base as it was night-and-day...not so much with the NISMO. The funny thing is, you have comparisons of different models such as this on every given forum, and the higher-end camp laughs it off saying the people defending the base-model are just bitter and/or couldn't afford the step up and/or are contriving excuses to justify their purchase when they secretly want the better version. I don't feel this is the case here with the 370Z Sport vs. NISMO. For the same price as the NISMO, it's foolish not to go with a fully-loaded Sport/Touring/Nav Z. As stated...Nissan really dropped the ball on this one. All you're paying for is a body-kit, and a tacky looking one at that.

09-01-2009, 01:57 PM	#28 (permalink)
zZSportZz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,095 Drives: 370z Blk on Blk 6MT Rep Power: 18	I want the red engine cover __________________ --Rick

09-18-2009, 10:39 AM	#29 (permalink)
STI-GUY Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Left of Center Posts: 11 Drives: See Screen Name Rep Power: 271	ONe word- Warranty. Not saying you can't get better gains from base plus mods, but unless your dealership is mod friendly, hope you know someone if your car goes boom. I am not hating, if you are indeed ballin' on a budget and don't need a warranty then yes you can get better gains for less in the aftermarket. For me not too many cars have me wanting to get rid of my STI, but the Z is def one of them and the NISMO Z is hot! I have been there done that with the performance aftermarket world and I don't want to go down that road anymore. I want a good bang for my buck sports car that's a good weekend warrior. Make mine a WHITE NISMO PLEASE! Last edited by STI-GUY; 09-18-2009 at 10:58 AM.

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08-31-2009, 10:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
Blown32 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N.J. Posts: 289 Drives: 09 370Z Blk sport 6T Rep Power: 15	Not worth the money unless all you are looking for is "bragging rights of owning a Nismo"! It's a shame but Nissan dropped the ball on this one.Of course it is a good marketing gig for them as many of there parts are.I also question the 18hp they rate there performance exhaust at?Seriously doubt that there as good as some aftermarket set ups? I always believed the Japs were on top of there game but maybe they have picked up on how easy we are in america!We are easy game for gimmicks and with the issues of the 370 and now the Nismo I believe they have caught on to us! I must say the Gismo or should I say the Nismo is a good looking car but way over priced.

08-31-2009, 11:18 AM	#17 (permalink)
DooDooBrown Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ranson, WV Posts: 178 Drives: 09 370 Touring w/spt Rep Power: 16	IMO, the NISMO is just over the top.... I don't like it, looks too rice...

08-31-2009, 03:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
skydvr Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 66 Drives: 370Z Nismo PG #0020 Rep Power: 16

08-31-2009, 04:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
havasuwiley Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: lake havasu city az Posts: 131 Drives: 09 370z, 03 z06 etc Rep Power: 15	i like the rear of the nismo,but for my money,sport tour +stillen adds is my cup of tea,

08-31-2009, 04:23 PM	#20 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 295	Agreed, a base+full bolt ons will cost less, make much much more power, and not have pre drilled holes for NISMO parts, should you decide to use other kits etc. Aesthetically theyre sexy, but far far too overpriced.

08-31-2009, 05:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
SMcK23 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 191 Drives: Altima 2.5-want a Z! Rep Power: 16	Thanks guys, great answers. I think I will go with everyone's advice, touring + sport and an exhaust mod! This way I can keep the leather, sattelite radio, etc.

08-31-2009, 06:26 PM	#25 (permalink)
Shunya A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,069 Drives: You Crazy! Rep Power: 22	yeha i want that tach